Should the supporters go on strike?

Started by sligoman2, May 18, 2015, 02:42:02 AM

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Bingo

Quote from: tonto1888 on May 18, 2015, 07:40:04 AM
Nonsense. That was a good game to watch. It was enthralling from start to finish with a lot of drama and plenty of excellent scores

I find this a struggle to get my head round. If this was an enthralling game and good to watch, then the standards are really dropping and we'll have a long summer ahead. It was an average game and was probably made "enthralling" by the conditions.

In the last 20 mins, I could only see one winner and at that they needed the boot of Murphy to kick those dead balls (which where excellent).

Think a good few are trying to make more out of the game to convince themselves that the carry on justifies the end. This was typical Ulster championship football and rarely do we see a good game in Ulster, plenty of battles with the odd good score but football it isn't.

johnneycool

Quote from: Bingo on May 18, 2015, 09:33:34 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 18, 2015, 07:40:04 AM
Nonsense. That was a good game to watch. It was enthralling from start to finish with a lot of drama and plenty of excellent scores

I find this a struggle to get my head round. If this was an enthralling game and good to watch, then the standards are really dropping and we'll have a long summer ahead. It was an average game and was probably made "enthralling" by the conditions.

In the last 20 mins, I could only see one winner and at that they needed the boot of Murphy to kick those dead balls (which where excellent).

Think a good few are trying to make more out of the game to convince themselves that the carry on justifies the end. This was typical Ulster championship football and rarely do we see a good game in Ulster, plenty of battles with the odd good score but football it isn't.

Whilst not a follower of the big ball in any big way, I thought there was some decent periods of play and some fine scores taken, sadly all too often inter-dispersed with the pulling and dragging and off the ball stuff, whilst not one decent punch thrown.

I think the refs should start throwing out a few black cards for the blocking, pulling and dragging that was going on off the ball, neither side were innocent in that regard, but by god, you'd have put the fist threw someone for that frustrating nonsense.

Christmas Lights

Quote from: Bingo on May 18, 2015, 09:33:34 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 18, 2015, 07:40:04 AM
Nonsense. That was a good game to watch. It was enthralling from start to finish with a lot of drama and plenty of excellent scores

I find this a struggle to get my head round. If this was an enthralling game and good to watch, then the standards are really dropping and we'll have a long summer ahead. It was an average game and was probably made "enthralling" by the conditions.

In the last 20 mins, I could only see one winner and at that they needed the boot of Murphy to kick those dead balls (which where excellent).

Think a good few are trying to make more out of the game to convince themselves that the carry on justifies the end. This was typical Ulster championship football and rarely do we see a good game in Ulster, plenty of battles with the odd good score but football it isn't.

If its not football, then what is it?  Is there only one type of way to play football?  You may explain. 

BluestackBoy

Quote from: sligoman2 on May 18, 2015, 02:42:02 AM


How do we send a message to the GAA and the managers that we are fed up of this nonsense? We need to fix it before it's too late.  I think we (the fans) should send a clear message by boycotting one game completely.  The Armagh v donegal game would probably be a good One As I expect to see a replay of today.  The best way to send a message is to hit them financially.....


What do the think? And what game would ye pick to send a loud and clear message that we are sick of watching this rubbish?

Considering that you didn't pay anything to watch yesterday's game & didn't have to watch it, I don't see what you're problem is. The people who attended yesterday's sell out in Ballybofey knew what to expect & enjoyed the game hugely. The same will apply to the sell out in Armagh.

If you are looking for a game to boycott, I would suggest the next Sligo game. Not alone will there be no skill on display, there won't be much fighting spirit either. Now that is what I call puke football.
For what shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world & loses his soul.

Bingo

Quote from: Christmas Lights on May 18, 2015, 09:39:39 AM
Quote from: Bingo on May 18, 2015, 09:33:34 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 18, 2015, 07:40:04 AM
Nonsense. That was a good game to watch. It was enthralling from start to finish with a lot of drama and plenty of excellent scores

I find this a struggle to get my head round. If this was an enthralling game and good to watch, then the standards are really dropping and we'll have a long summer ahead. It was an average game and was probably made "enthralling" by the conditions.

In the last 20 mins, I could only see one winner and at that they needed the boot of Murphy to kick those dead balls (which where excellent).

Think a good few are trying to make more out of the game to convince themselves that the carry on justifies the end. This was typical Ulster championship football and rarely do we see a good game in Ulster, plenty of battles with the odd good score but football it isn't.

If its not football, then what is it?  Is there only one type of way to play football?  You may explain.

My last comment referred to the Ulster championship in general. The team that wins more often than not isn't the best football team but the one winning the battles. I don't mind fist passing, I don't mind two teams going head to head and a physical game but in Ulster it often crosses that. Take that half time shite, all Johnny big Bollix's just waiting for one man to throw a slap and then  lie down. Colm O'Rourke was right in saying that there was no fear of a punch been thrown as its not the done thing now. Its like the wrestling now, all macho and tight jerseys.

How many times on here do we see posters slag off soccer players for diving, cheating, lying down, disrespecting the game etc etc and how they wouldn't last a week in the GAA with the honest, hardworking amateurs. Well, wake up time lads, this sledging, roaring in faces is every bit as bad, purely designed to get an opponent to react and whats worse is that its premeditated and lads can stick their heads in the sand all they want but they know this to be true.

Mouthing happens all the time and always has but generally its in response to the game and they shake hands after it. Its going to a level now that its planned, wasn't too many rushing for handshakes after the whistle yesterday and when they happened it was very light.


twohands!!!

average attendance at a hurling championship game 25k

average attendance at a football championship game 15k

To my mind, I think there is a serious chunk of supporters already gone on strike.

Rossfan

If only the top 12 teams were allowed in the football championship you'd have different figures.
Average attendance at Ring\Rackard etc cup games?? 100??
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theskull1

Quote from: twohands!!! on May 18, 2015, 10:19:14 AM
average attendance at a hurling championship game 25k

average attendance at a football championship game 15k

To my mind, I think there is a serious chunk of supporters already gone on strike.

Not really comparing like for like though.
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twohands!!!

Quote from: theskull1 on May 18, 2015, 10:30:34 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 18, 2015, 10:19:14 AM
average attendance at a hurling championship game 25k

average attendance at a football championship game 15k

To my mind, I think there is a serious chunk of supporters already gone on strike.

Not really comparing like for like though.

Fair enough but when you look at the fact that the total number attending the hurling championship surpassed the total attending the football championship in 2013, it points to there being very serious issues with getting people through the gates for the football championship.

Overall I think the GAA is doing a fairly poor job in terms of attracting the casual/lukewarm/middle-of-the-road supporter to the football championship and while people mightn't be that bothered about it but to my mind the GAA is turning it's back on a potentially serious pile of ticket money.

tonto1888

Quote from: AZOffaly on May 18, 2015, 09:16:07 AM


I also heard Martin Carney bemoaning the first sending off because apparently the Donegal man was goaded into getting involved with Sean Cavanagh, and therefore he got the second yellow. As if it was calculated. Now Martin may have a point in general, but I thought from what I saw in that instance Cavanagh was more sinned against than sinning. In real time on the TV I saw Gallagher reach around the side of Cavanagh as he (Gallagher) was yapping. I thought it was the dreaded ball grab he was intending, but instead it looked like he tried to grab one of Cavanagh's fingers. Presumably he was going to twist or yank on it. He was hardly pinky promising not to be bold anymore anyway. That's what sparked the wrestling match, and Carney didn't seem to want to pick up on that.



This is exactly the way it looked to me also

tonto1888

Quote from: Bingo on May 18, 2015, 09:33:34 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 18, 2015, 07:40:04 AM
Nonsense. That was a good game to watch. It was enthralling from start to finish with a lot of drama and plenty of excellent scores

I find this a struggle to get my head round. If this was an enthralling game and good to watch, then the standards are really dropping and we'll have a long summer ahead. It was an average game and was probably made "enthralling" by the conditions.

In the last 20 mins, I could only see one winner and at that they needed the boot of Murphy to kick those dead balls (which where excellent).

Think a good few are trying to make more out of the game to convince themselves that the carry on justifies the end. This was typical Ulster championship football and rarely do we see a good game in Ulster, plenty of battles with the odd good score but football it isn't.

Each to their own. I didnt say it was good to watch because of the standards, thought there were pahses where the standards on display were excellent

laoislad

Quote from: theskull1 on May 18, 2015, 10:30:34 AM
Quote from: twohands!!! on May 18, 2015, 10:19:14 AM
average attendance at a hurling championship game 25k

average attendance at a football championship game 15k

To my mind, I think there is a serious chunk of supporters already gone on strike.

Not really comparing like for like though.

True.
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sligoman2

Quote from: BluestackBoy on May 18, 2015, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 18, 2015, 02:42:02 AM


How do we send a message to the GAA and the managers that we are fed up of this nonsense? We need to fix it before it's too late.  I think we (the fans) should send a clear message by boycotting one game completely.  The Armagh v donegal game would probably be a good One As I expect to see a replay of today.  The best way to send a message is to hit them financially.....


What do the think? And what game would ye pick to send a loud and clear message that we are sick of watching this rubbish?

Considering that you didn't pay anything to watch yesterday's game & didn't have to watch it, I don't see what you're problem is. The people who attended yesterday's sell out in Ballybofey knew what to expect & enjoyed the game hugely. The same will apply to the sell out in Armagh.

If you are looking for a game to boycott, I would suggest the next Sligo game. Not alone will there be no skill on display, there won't be much fighting spirit either. Now that is what I call puke football.

I paid $200 for a subscription to gaago to watch championship games so I did pay.  I'm amazed at how some of ye want to defend the total crap that was the 2nd half yesterday.  It could have been one of the best games of the championship if it was played in an open manner - but that was not the case and that is why many former footballers like myself are beginning to lose interest, which is very sad as I never thought that day would come.  Don't worry, Sligo will show plenty of spirit, we always try to play football at least.
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BennyHarp

Quote from: sligoman2 on May 18, 2015, 11:58:32 AM
Quote from: BluestackBoy on May 18, 2015, 10:00:21 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on May 18, 2015, 02:42:02 AM


How do we send a message to the GAA and the managers that we are fed up of this nonsense? We need to fix it before it's too late.  I think we (the fans) should send a clear message by boycotting one game completely.  The Armagh v donegal game would probably be a good One As I expect to see a replay of today.  The best way to send a message is to hit them financially.....


What do the think? And what game would ye pick to send a loud and clear message that we are sick of watching this rubbish?

Considering that you didn't pay anything to watch yesterday's game & didn't have to watch it, I don't see what you're problem is. The people who attended yesterday's sell out in Ballybofey knew what to expect & enjoyed the game hugely. The same will apply to the sell out in Armagh.

If you are looking for a game to boycott, I would suggest the next Sligo game. Not alone will there be no skill on display, there won't be much fighting spirit either. Now that is what I call puke football.

I paid $200 for a subscription to gaago to watch championship games so I did pay.  I'm amazed at how some of ye want to defend the total crap that was the 2nd half yesterday.  It could have been one of the best games of the championship if it was played in an open manner - but that was not the case and that is why many former footballers like myself are beginning to lose interest, which is very sad as I never thought that day would come.  Don't worry, Sligo will show plenty of spirit, we always try to play football at least.

In which era was football played in the way that you found most enjoyable to watch?
That was never a square ball!!

NAG1

Not going to get involved in a the ridiculous title of this thread more of a side note.

Was it just me or was there a feeling that all three of the pundits on the live shown has been preprogrammed not to be negative about football in general. All three sounded more upbeat that usual about the state of football and its future, maybe this was just because it was the opening weekend on the TV but it definitely to me felt like there was a concerted effort not be negative.