All Ireland Minor Championship 2015

[rodney trotter]

The other 3 quarter final games are in neutral venues, Cavan want to reach the All Ireland Semi's and play in Croke Park . Kildare's last 2 games have been in Croke Park - why would they hand them that advantage..

[INDIANA]

The other 3 quarter final games are in neutral venues, Cavan want to reach the All Ireland Semi's and play in Croke Park . Kildare's last 2 games have been in Croke Park - why would they hand them that advantage..

Seriously Cavan football is going nowhere with that attitude. If you're good enough the pitch means nothing.

[Syferus]

The other 3 quarter final games are in neutral venues, Cavan want to reach the All Ireland Semi's and play in Croke Park . Kildare's last 2 games have been in Croke Park - why would they hand them that advantage..

Seriously Cavan football is going nowhere with that attitude. If you're good enough the pitch means nothing.

Give over with the veiled defence of Dublin lad. A few thousand in a massive stadium makes no difference, particularly when it is genuinely not in either county. Dublin playing every championship game at home with 30-50k homers behind them? A hell of a lot different.

[ck]

County Minors have a guaranteed opportunity to play in Croke park if they reach the semi or All Ireland final. Quarter finals in both senior and minors should be played in provincial stadiums in my opinion and you could also make a case for the provincials winners rewarded with a home game in the last eight.

Development is key for under age however winning whatever the grade is important if not why do they keep the score.

Just on this, my opinion on under-age is this - I encourage the mastery approach where qualified coaches create a climate in which players receive positive reinforcement from the coach when they (a) work hard, (b) demonstrate improvement, (c) help others learn through cooperation, and (d) believe that each player's contribution is important. These kind of climates give players the opportunity to develop the kind of intrinsic motivation to really push them and their team into higher levels. The natural side affect of this climate is winning.

The Cavan's coaches job is to prepare them and develop them for senior, if they believe playing Kildare in Navan is the best thing for their development then you have to trust them. I just don't agree with it as sometimes the extrinsic motivation of playing in CP for young players pushes them on and creates a hunger and a desire to get back there. It also creates a life-time memory which goes beyond football but that's just the romantic in me.

Yes all very nice in theory but the reality is that these guys are in it to win. When they don't win they'll talk about the development of players. Their plan A is to win at all costs.
I was part of a development squad back room team a few years back and winning was all that mattered. Development never came into it, I'm ashamed to say that but that was the reality. Any team we played were the same. I have grown to realise that the REAL development takes place in the clubs. Counties are all about showcasing their talent and winning games.

[INDIANA]

The other 3 quarter final games are in neutral venues, Cavan want to reach the All Ireland Semi's and play in Croke Park . Kildare's last 2 games have been in Croke Park - why would they hand them that advantage..

Seriously Cavan football is going nowhere with that attitude. If you're good enough the pitch means nothing.

Give over with the veiled defence of Dublin lad. A few thousand in a massive stadium makes no difference, particularly when it is genuinely not in either county. Dublin playing every championship game at home with 30-50k homers behind them? A hell of a lot different.

Not when you're good enough. We could play Roscommon 20 times in Hyde Park and we'd win every game because we're better then you.

[Syferus]

The other 3 quarter final games are in neutral venues, Cavan want to reach the All Ireland Semi's and play in Croke Park . Kildare's last 2 games have been in Croke Park - why would they hand them that advantage..

Seriously Cavan football is going nowhere with that attitude. If you're good enough the pitch means nothing.

Give over with the veiled defence of Dublin lad. A few thousand in a massive stadium makes no difference, particularly when it is genuinely not in either county. Dublin playing every championship game at home with 30-50k homers behind them? A hell of a lot different.

Not when you're good enough. We could play Roscommon 20 times in Hyde Park and we'd win every game because we're better then you.

You can point out the logical fallacy of your position only so many times before it starts to feel like banging your head against a boulder.

Team A and Team B are as equal as two teams can be. What you're saying is it doesn't matter if Team A plays the game at their home ground in front of a rabid and partisan crowd, despite every statistical study of sport indicating home advantage is worth multiple point spreads to the home side.

You're wrong, it's as simple and as stark as that.

[INDIANA]

The other 3 quarter final games are in neutral venues, Cavan want to reach the All Ireland Semi's and play in Croke Park . Kildare's last 2 games have been in Croke Park - why would they hand them that advantage..

Seriously Cavan football is going nowhere with that attitude. If you're good enough the pitch means nothing.

Give over with the veiled defence of Dublin lad. A few thousand in a massive stadium makes no difference, particularly when it is genuinely not in either county. Dublin playing every championship game at home with 30-50k homers behind them? A hell of a lot different.

Not when you're good enough. We could play Roscommon 20 times in Hyde Park and we'd win every game because we're better then you.

You can point out the logical fallacy of your position only so many times before it starts to feel like banging your head against a boulder.

Team A and Team B are as equal as two teams can be. What you're saying is it doesn't matter if Team A plays the game at their home ground in front of a rabid and partisan crowd, despite every statistical study of sport indicating home advantage is worth multiple point spreads to the home side.

You're wrong, it's as simple and as stark as that.

Not at all Syferus. Croke Park is where every player wants to play. To say anything else is just an inferiority complex.

If Tyrone were playing Kildare they'd play in Croke Park. That's the difference.

When you're good enough and have the confidence of being a winner venue is irrelevant.

[Syferus]

The other 3 quarter final games are in neutral venues, Cavan want to reach the All Ireland Semi's and play in Croke Park . Kildare's last 2 games have been in Croke Park - why would they hand them that advantage..

Seriously Cavan football is going nowhere with that attitude. If you're good enough the pitch means nothing.

Give over with the veiled defence of Dublin lad. A few thousand in a massive stadium makes no difference, particularly when it is genuinely not in either county. Dublin playing every championship game at home with 30-50k homers behind them? A hell of a lot different.

Not when you're good enough. We could play Roscommon 20 times in Hyde Park and we'd win every game because we're better then you.

You can point out the logical fallacy of your position only so many times before it starts to feel like banging your head against a boulder.

Team A and Team B are as equal as two teams can be. What you're saying is it doesn't matter if Team A plays the game at their home ground in front of a rabid and partisan crowd, despite every statistical study of sport indicating home advantage is worth multiple point spreads to the home side.

You're wrong, it's as simple and as stark as that.

Not at all Syferus. Croke Park is where every player wants to play. To say anything else is just an inferiority complex.

If Tyrone were playing Kildare they'd play in Croke Park. That's the difference.

When you're good enough and have the confidence of being a winner venue is irrelevant.

Incorrect. The inferior team at home has every chance of winning if they're close enough to the better team to be within the points spread home advantage offers them. So in effect the opposite to what you've said is provable.

[drici]

What you're saying is it doesn't matter if Team A plays the game at their home ground in front of a rabid and partisan crowd

[Hound]

If Tyrone were playing Kildare they'd play in Croke Park. That's the difference.

That's for sure.

What I can't understand is the GAA even giving Cavan the option of refusing to play in Croke Park. Kildare are Leinster champions, Cavan are the back door team, Croke Park is a neutral venue

[rodney trotter]

If Tyrone were playing Kildare they'd play in Croke Park. That's the difference.

That's for sure.

What I can't understand is the GAA even giving Cavan the option of refusing to play in Croke Park. Kildare are Leinster champions, Cavan are the back door team, Croke Park is a neutral venue

Navan is the sensible option ffs. Why not have all 4 Minor quarter games in Croke Park if that's the case.

[mylestheslasher]

If Tyrone were playing Kildare they'd play in Croke Park. That's the difference.

That's for sure.

What I can't understand is the GAA even giving Cavan the option of refusing to play in Croke Park. Kildare are Leinster champions, Cavan are the back door team, Croke Park is a neutral venue

Navan is the sensible option ffs. Why not have all 4 Minor quarter games in Croke Park if that's the case.

Absolutely correct.

Whether a team is a back door team or not has nothing to do with the venue Hound so not sure why you are bringing  this up. Tyrone were also not good enough to make the quarter finals so what they would do is also irrelevant.

[Canalman]

In fairness can't have been an easy call for Cavan to make. Can see where they are coming from but....................

[Jinxy]

It's every young lads dream to play in Navan.

[ck]

It's every young lads dream to play in Navan.

lol if they can find it!