All Ireland u21 football championship 2015

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Fear ón Srath Bán

Awe, INDIANA, my heart-strings are in bits here with your heart-rending tales of marvellous medal displays, seriously loike!

Can you  try a wee bit harder to portray yourself as a complete mass-media suffused nonentity, seriously loike?! :P :D
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

tiempo

Quote from: rrhf on May 04, 2015, 11:14:04 PM
Quote from: tippabu on May 04, 2015, 09:40:52 PM
Good half an hour of talk on the local tipp radio station tonight on the game, its the extra time part of the podcast and well worth a listen for the tyrone boys on here, yes there are some points youll take exception to but in the whole I think youll find that we are not as bad losers as we may be portrayed. Our manager was on and explained what happened from his point of view from the dressing room after and that was....the presentation took a long time before if actually happened, our players were cold and wet and headed back to the dressing room, tommy stayed on the pitch, waited till fergal logan done his interviews, congratulated him then did interviews himself, it wasnt until after that he was found out about the dressing room. someone didnt leave fergal in as the lads were showering and what not, its still regrettable but thats what he had to say on it. Heres the link to the podcast and hopefully people wont just pay attention to the odd text in or comment and take it all as a whole. 3mins to 35 is about the match

http://tippfm.com/podcasts



Ive said plenty on the match, maybe my first post on it was over the top but i dont think any of my others were. Congradulations to tyrone and best of luck defending youre ulster and all ireland titles next year. If things go wrong for both of us at senior this year we are both on the same side of the draw and may meet in that, also next year munster are due to play ulster at under 21 so hopefully we'll get a rematch there too
Tipp abu. Maybe by then those who said what they said at the door of the dressing room.  And those on the radio and the press will have moved away from this talented group of footballers. The poorest sportsmanship I have ever witnessed as a gael. Poor sportsmanship is worse than the dirty stamp and the nasty dive that we seen in the game.

Not aimed at the poster specifically, just a general observation. Its funny how on a weekly basis it is claimed:

the most cynical ever seen
the most negative ever seen
the most nordie ever seen
the dortiest ever seen
the biggest bottlers ever seen
etc etc etc

Why does it have to be "the worst ..... ever seen" - why not just a good/bad example of x?

BennyHarp

#1382
When I'm anonymously online, I like to think I've loads of All Ireland medals too. I'm looking at all three of them now! I would have got a goal in the quarter final in 2008 too, if that greedy hoor Stephen O'Neill hadn't shot himself from a ridiculous angle when I was clean through.
That was never a square ball!!

Slievenamon

Excuse me please.  As a follower of Tipperary football I wish to congratulate Tyrone on a fine win on Saturday evening.  We are quiet simply in bits but I am sure they will recover quickly and move on.  I want to address the game in an honest way and I suppose a starting point would be to offer sympathy to the family of Tipperary man Dom Browne who sadly passed away at half time.
     I thought there were three phases in the game.  The opening half was one where Tipp went at Tyrone and were well worth their lead at the break.  In fact but for the final few mins of the half we could have went in 4 points up.  A wrong option by our centre forward as we led by three was intercepted and Tyrone quickly pointed to reduce the gap to just two at the break.  The 3rd 1/4 saw Tyrone absolutely dominate and Tipp struggled to cope with the pace.  Tyrone nearly goaled early in the half.  Then at two points up a long range free came off the cross bar Tyrone broke pointed and from the kickout scored a brilliant goal. 
     This then is where Tipp had grumbles.  As the goal scorer was being treated the whole mood changed in the game.  Throughout the field Tyrone players goaded the Tipp players. Pushing, pulling , laughing in their faces and generally acting in a manner unfitting of the occasion.  I have seen rough play down the years and you must accept that.  Steven O'Brien was lucky to be left on the field after stamping on an opponent.   This was a dirty foul and I would not condone it.  But some of the stuff in the last 14 minutes were disgusting.  If I thought that either Tipperary or Clonmel Commercials would revert to this it would finish me with football so hopefully that wont happen.  The coaches can deny that they coached this way but it is as obvious that once a lead was got we spoil the game.  On two occasions in the dying minutes a hugely organised sideline for Tyrone "failed" to get a message to the man being taken off to allow a sub in.  The whole lot was orchestrated.  Now the incident at the end was not of Tyrones making. Okay a Tyrone man ran an opponent into a goal post but he was dealt with by the ref but failing to throw the ball in is boggling.  Throwing it in didnt mean we would have won the throw in but thats not the point.
      Now I dont want to come on here and just whinge.  I have been as honest as I can and I really enjoyed the game as a spectacle up to the Tyrone goal.  The two teams were wonderful in appalling conditions but for me the antics in the final 1/4 marred it for me  more that the loss.  Well done to Tyrone again and for Tipp we need to dust down beat Waterford and get some sort of a run in the championship. 

ONeill

Quote from: Slievenamon on May 04, 2015, 11:48:41 PM
Excuse me please.  As a follower of Tipperary football I wish to congratulate Tyrone on a fine win on Saturday evening.  We are quiet simply in bits but I am sure they will recover quickly and move on.  I want to address the game in an honest way and I suppose a starting point would be to offer sympathy to the family of Tipperary man Dom Browne who sadly passed away at half time.
     I thought there were three phases in the game.  The opening half was one where Tipp went at Tyrone and were well worth their lead at the break.  In fact but for the final few mins of the half we could have went in 4 points up.  A wrong option by our centre forward as we led by three was intercepted and Tyrone quickly pointed to reduce the gap to just two at the break.  The 3rd 1/4 saw Tyrone absolutely dominate and Tipp struggled to cope with the pace.  Tyrone nearly goaled early in the half.  Then at two points up a long range free came off the cross bar Tyrone broke pointed and from the kickout scored a brilliant goal. 
     This then is where Tipp had grumbles.  As the goal scorer was being treated the whole mood changed in the game.  Throughout the field Tyrone players goaded the Tipp players. Pushing, pulling , laughing in their faces and generally acting in a manner unfitting of the occasion.  I have seen rough play down the years and you must accept that.  Steven O'Brien was lucky to be left on the field after stamping on an opponent.   This was a dirty foul and I would not condone it.  But some of the stuff in the last 14 minutes were disgusting.  If I thought that either Tipperary or Clonmel Commercials would revert to this it would finish me with football so hopefully that wont happen.  The coaches can deny that they coached this way but it is as obvious that once a lead was got we spoil the game.  On two occasions in the dying minutes a hugely organised sideline for Tyrone "failed" to get a message to the man being taken off to allow a sub in.  The whole lot was orchestrated.  Now the incident at the end was not of Tyrones making. Okay a Tyrone man ran an opponent into a goal post but he was dealt with by the ref but failing to throw the ball in is boggling.  Throwing it in didnt mean we would have won the throw in but thats not the point.
      Now I dont want to come on here and just whinge.  I have been as honest as I can and I really enjoyed the game as a spectacle up to the Tyrone goal.   

But you have come on and whinged about a player laughing and somebody pushing and someone pulling. That podcast posted earlier was scandalous too. Is this what Tipp are?
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Slievenamon

I did whinge on particular incidents but I was fair on my views of the match and the Tyrone team.  I think it is only fair to give overall views and not just on the nasty stuff because the game and Tyrone had much more that just this.  I havent see all 93 pages so the podcast I am not aware of .  What channel  was it taken from do you know?

ONeill

This is coming across as a county not used to playing at this level. I suppose you could say Tyrone were like that before the Harte generation. I think Canavan alluded to that in his speech in 2003.

And you can say 'well we're better off playing at a lower level if that's how it is' and good luck to you. I remember my first reserve game and my marker shook my hand, asked me about my older brother and then gave me an unmerciful flick in the knackers. This never happened at minor. After that it was a great game.

If Tipp are going to whinge about laughing and pushing then feck off back to the Tommy Murphy, God rest it.

Some of the stuff pedalled as fact in that podcast was scandalous.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

INDIANA

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 04, 2015, 11:30:39 PM
Awe, INDIANA, my heart-strings are in bits here with your heart-rending tales of marvellous medal displays, seriously loike!

Can you  try a wee bit harder to portray yourself as a complete mass-media suffused nonentity, seriously loike?! :P :D

Ha. I heard the North Korean dictator is in Tyrone this week to learn about media propaganda !

It's all a conspiracy you see lads . Poor old Tyrone - always the victims eh lads




tippabu

Quote from: ONeill on May 04, 2015, 11:52:38 PM
Quote from: Slievenamon on May 04, 2015, 11:48:41 PM
Excuse me please.  As a follower of Tipperary football I wish to congratulate Tyrone on a fine win on Saturday evening.  We are quiet simply in bits but I am sure they will recover quickly and move on.  I want to address the game in an honest way and I suppose a starting point would be to offer sympathy to the family of Tipperary man Dom Browne who sadly passed away at half time.
     I thought there were three phases in the game.  The opening half was one where Tipp went at Tyrone and were well worth their lead at the break.  In fact but for the final few mins of the half we could have went in 4 points up.  A wrong option by our centre forward as we led by three was intercepted and Tyrone quickly pointed to reduce the gap to just two at the break.  The 3rd 1/4 saw Tyrone absolutely dominate and Tipp struggled to cope with the pace.  Tyrone nearly goaled early in the half.  Then at two points up a long range free came off the cross bar Tyrone broke pointed and from the kickout scored a brilliant goal. 
     This then is where Tipp had grumbles.  As the goal scorer was being treated the whole mood changed in the game.  Throughout the field Tyrone players goaded the Tipp players. Pushing, pulling , laughing in their faces and generally acting in a manner unfitting of the occasion.  I have seen rough play down the years and you must accept that.  Steven O'Brien was lucky to be left on the field after stamping on an opponent.   This was a dirty foul and I would not condone it.  But some of the stuff in the last 14 minutes were disgusting.  If I thought that either Tipperary or Clonmel Commercials would revert to this it would finish me with football so hopefully that wont happen.  The coaches can deny that they coached this way but it is as obvious that once a lead was got we spoil the game.  On two occasions in the dying minutes a hugely organised sideline for Tyrone "failed" to get a message to the man being taken off to allow a sub in.  The whole lot was orchestrated.  Now the incident at the end was not of Tyrones making. Okay a Tyrone man ran an opponent into a goal post but he was dealt with by the ref but failing to throw the ball in is boggling.  Throwing it in didnt mean we would have won the throw in but thats not the point.
      Now I dont want to come on here and just whinge.  I have been as honest as I can and I really enjoyed the game as a spectacle up to the Tyrone goal.   

But you have come on and whinged about a player laughing and somebody pushing and someone pulling. That podcast posted earlier was scandalous too. Is this what Tipp are?

so you take one part of what he says and completely ignore the rest, its this posters first post on the board and he gave his view on the game, some (not all) really do revel in the us against the world attitude and try to find the negative in everything

Rodman

Quote from: BennyHarp on May 04, 2015, 10:16:00 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on May 04, 2015, 10:11:33 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on May 04, 2015, 07:34:42 PM
There's a lot of fear in the anti Tyrone posters. I think they sense that Tyrone are rising again and are making sure to set their stall out to discredit our future success. I understand the weaker counties like Mayo, Roscommon and Derry getting frustrated that Tyrone may dominate again before they've even made a meaningful challenge for Sam. But you'd think the Dubs would be a bit more comfortable in their own skin, but then again, they always had a weak underbelly when they met us in our pomp. I  really hope their fears prove to be correct but I wouldn't be as confident........just yet!  :)


If you beat us in the championship once in the next five years I'd be surprised.

No Stephen O Neill's in this Tyrone batch which was the reason you always had the edge on us.

However I think fear factor ended in 2011 after the hiding you shipped that day.

Yes O'Neill was deadly in 2008 when we stuffed you!  ::) Do you know anything?


INDIANA,  as part of the preview to the 1995 final, RTE interviewed a Dub supporter before the game. The interviewer asked him who he thought Tyrone should watch out for, the Dubs supporter response was "everyone is talking about Jayo, but I think Sheedy will do the damage" . The interviewer replied, "Sure Sheedy isn't playing". The Dub supporter replied " he is fcukin playing"........was that Dub Supporter you. 

tippabu

Quote from: ONeill on May 05, 2015, 12:06:44 AM
This is coming across as a county not used to playing at this level. I suppose you could say Tyrone were like that before the Harte generation. I think Canavan alluded to that in his speech in 2003.

And you can say 'well we're better off playing at a lower level if that's how it is' and good luck to you. I remember my first reserve game and my marker shook my hand, asked me about my older brother and then gave me an unmerciful flick in the knackers. This never happened at minor. After that it was a great game.

If Tipp are going to whinge about laughing and pushing then feck off back to the Tommy Murphy, God rest it.

Some of the stuff pedalled as fact in that podcast was scandalous.

such as?

INDIANA

Quote from: Slievenamon on May 04, 2015, 11:57:22 PM
I did whinge on particular incidents but I was fair on my views of the match and the Tyrone team.  I think it is only fair to give overall views and not just on the nasty stuff because the game and Tyrone had much more that just this.  I havent see all 93 pages so the podcast I am not aware of .  What channel  was it taken from do you know?

Don't be put off by the Tyrone posters here. They've a collective total of 3 senior all Ireland's and they think they invented the game. You're entitled to your opinion.

You have to realise that as far as they are concerned the only valid opinions on here are theirs . For everything else they have Plenty of former players on Twitter . It's a well oiled propaganda machine .

ONeill

#1392
Quote from: tippabu on May 05, 2015, 12:10:07 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 05, 2015, 12:06:44 AM
This is coming across as a county not used to playing at this level. I suppose you could say Tyrone were like that before the Harte generation. I think Canavan alluded to that in his speech in 2003.

And you can say 'well we're better off playing at a lower level if that's how it is' and good luck to you. I remember my first reserve game and my marker shook my hand, asked me about my older brother and then gave me an unmerciful flick in the knackers. This never happened at minor. After that it was a great game.

If Tipp are going to whinge about laughing and pushing then feck off back to the Tommy Murphy, God rest it.

Some of the stuff pedalled as fact in that podcast was scandalous.

such as?

The whole Facebook shite. Girlfriends. The northern way. Pre-meditated tactics if they got in front......
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

ONeill

Quote from: tippabu on May 05, 2015, 12:08:32 AM
Quote from: ONeill on May 04, 2015, 11:52:38 PM
Quote from: Slievenamon on May 04, 2015, 11:48:41 PM
Excuse me please.  As a follower of Tipperary football I wish to congratulate Tyrone on a fine win on Saturday evening.  We are quiet simply in bits but I am sure they will recover quickly and move on.  I want to address the game in an honest way and I suppose a starting point would be to offer sympathy to the family of Tipperary man Dom Browne who sadly passed away at half time.
     I thought there were three phases in the game.  The opening half was one where Tipp went at Tyrone and were well worth their lead at the break.  In fact but for the final few mins of the half we could have went in 4 points up.  A wrong option by our centre forward as we led by three was intercepted and Tyrone quickly pointed to reduce the gap to just two at the break.  The 3rd 1/4 saw Tyrone absolutely dominate and Tipp struggled to cope with the pace.  Tyrone nearly goaled early in the half.  Then at two points up a long range free came off the cross bar Tyrone broke pointed and from the kickout scored a brilliant goal. 
     This then is where Tipp had grumbles.  As the goal scorer was being treated the whole mood changed in the game.  Throughout the field Tyrone players goaded the Tipp players. Pushing, pulling , laughing in their faces and generally acting in a manner unfitting of the occasion.  I have seen rough play down the years and you must accept that.  Steven O'Brien was lucky to be left on the field after stamping on an opponent.   This was a dirty foul and I would not condone it.  But some of the stuff in the last 14 minutes were disgusting.  If I thought that either Tipperary or Clonmel Commercials would revert to this it would finish me with football so hopefully that wont happen.  The coaches can deny that they coached this way but it is as obvious that once a lead was got we spoil the game.  On two occasions in the dying minutes a hugely organised sideline for Tyrone "failed" to get a message to the man being taken off to allow a sub in.  The whole lot was orchestrated.  Now the incident at the end was not of Tyrones making. Okay a Tyrone man ran an opponent into a goal post but he was dealt with by the ref but failing to throw the ball in is boggling.  Throwing it in didnt mean we would have won the throw in but thats not the point.
      Now I dont want to come on here and just whinge.  I have been as honest as I can and I really enjoyed the game as a spectacle up to the Tyrone goal.   

But you have come on and whinged about a player laughing and somebody pushing and someone pulling. That podcast posted earlier was scandalous too. Is this what Tipp are?

so you take one part of what he says and completely ignore the rest, its this posters first post on the board and he gave his view on the game, some (not all) really do revel in the us against the world attitude and try to find the negative in everything

Read it again.  A couple of lines of 'phases' then a whinge. Is this what Tipp are?
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

giveballaghback

I have said it before and heres the thing, gaelic football has always been a hard physical game, every team has had their hard men and cynical men, but a referee could usually deal with it when it was just a few players on each side that were at it, but now it is team policy and it is being coached into young lads that this is the way to win, there is no way our rules as they stand can cope with what is going on, the game that we all love is being dragged into the dirt, say what ye want and make all the excuses ye want what I am saying is true, I am not against northern teams, I am against any county that brings that awful aspect to our games, just have a look at the last 30 pages of this thread, what is being talked about,I just wish we had witnessed a good sporting game of football that we could all have praised and enjoyed, I have no issue with teams setting up defensively, thats their right, but I have an issue with the win at all costs tactics that have taken our game into disrepute,the word sport no longer applies to gaelic football, like I said in an earlier post to Tyrone, take a bow, ye are all-Ireland u21 champions, but at what cost?