New book on Padraig Nally case

[seafoid]

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/10-years-on-nally-still-prays-for-raider-he-killed-30693251.html

The book, Unless by Invitation, by West of Ireland journalist Crona Esler, examines in depth the case of farmer Padraig Nally who was jailed for shooting dead John 'Frog' Ward after Ward had tried to raid Nally's isolated homestead in Cross, Co Mayo, 10 years ago this month.

In a forensic examination of the legislation, the Defence and Dwelling Act, eventually passed into law by Alan Shatter in 2012, Ms Esler, Deputy Editor of the Western People, states that what is deemed "reasonable" force under the Act is "subjective and depends on the individual circumstances".

"A person who uses force against an intruder which results in the death of this person, still risks criminal prosecution if the force used is not deemed reasonable by the court or jury," Ms Esler writes.

Esler found that Nally has begun to come to terms with his experience. He felt sorry for John Ward's family and says prayers for the repose of his soul. He received 3,000 letters during his trial and when he returned home he often sat up at night and found he "was crying reading them, there was so much compassion among the people".

[haveaharp]

If someone breaks into your house you should not be prosecuted for executing them on the spot by whatever means at your disposal.

[BennyCake]

If someone breaks into your house you should not be prosecuted for executing them on the spot by whatever means at your disposal.

Totally agree. Especially when the intruder is a gypo.

[Silver hill]

If someone breaks into your house you should not be prosecuted for executing them on the spot by whatever means at your disposal.

Totally agree. Especially when the intruder is a gypo.

Bigotry and racism alive and well. God help us all

[Agent Orange]

Only in Ireland could you shoot someone in the back, reload shoot him again and literally get away with murder.

[sans pessimism]

Only in Ireland could you shoot someone in the back, reload shoot him again and literally get away with murder.

or South Africa.... or California....Didn't recall anyone sayin that OJ was defending his property- yet he got away.

[5 Sams]

If anyone came into my house to rob me and put my family in danger...gyppo or not he would get both barrels if I had a gun. So what else would youse do gooders do? Shoo them out. Cop on.

[Agent Orange]

If anyone came into my house to rob me and put my family in danger...gyppo or not he would get both barrels if I had a gun. So what else would youse do gooders do? Shoo them out. Cop on.

There is a big difference between self defence and murder, when Nally reloaded and shot Ward again he committed murder.

[BennyCake]

If someone breaks into your house you should not be prosecuted for executing them on the spot by whatever means at your disposal.

Totally agree. Especially when the intruder is a gypo.

Bigotry and racism alive and well. God help us all

You obviously haven't encountered many gypos in your time.

[BennyCake]

If anyone came into my house to rob me and put my family in danger...gyppo or not he would get both barrels if I had a gun. So what else would youse do gooders do? Shoo them out. Cop on.

There is a big difference between self defence and murder, when Nally reloaded and shot Ward again he committed murder.

The man was tortured by them fcukers by all accounts. An elderly bachelor living in fear. It's understandable to react in the way he did.

[5 Sams]

If someone breaks into your house you should not be prosecuted for executing them on the spot by whatever means at your disposal.

Totally agree. Especially when the intruder is a gypo.

Bigotry and racism alive and well. God help us all

You obviously haven't encountered many gypos in your time.

+1

[macdanger2]

If anyone came into my house to rob me and put my family in danger...gyppo or not he would get both barrels if I had a gun. So what else would youse do gooders do? Shoo them out. Cop on.

There is a big difference between self defence and murder, when Nally reloaded and shot Ward again he committed murder.

True but there's also a big difference between a one-off intruder and someone serially terrorising an old man. Hard and all as it may have been for the Wards, I have little sympathy with the man who died

[Agent Orange]

If anyone came into my house to rob me and put my family in danger...gyppo or not he would get both barrels if I had a gun. So what else would youse do gooders do? Shoo them out. Cop on.

There is a big difference between self defence and murder, when Nally reloaded and shot Ward again he committed murder.

True but there's also a big difference between a one-off intruder and someone serially terrorising an old man. Hard and all as it may have been for the Wards, I have little sympathy with the man who died

I have no sympathy for the deceased, but Nally committed murder and was allowed to walk free because of public opinion.

[mouview]

If anyone came into my house to rob me and put my family in danger...gyppo or not he would get both barrels if I had a gun. So what else would youse do gooders do? Shoo them out. Cop on.

There is a big difference between self defence and murder, when Nally reloaded and shot Ward again he committed murder.

True but there's also a big difference between a one-off intruder and someone serially terrorising an old man. Hard and all as it may have been for the Wards, I have little sympathy with the man who died

I have no sympathy for the deceased, but Nally committed murder and was allowed to walk free because of public opinion.

Where do you stand on the death of the innocent woman in last week's crash on the motorway slipway?

Traveller crime is the hidden war in Ireland today. Every daily paper, every weekly regional paper carries incidents or court case details involving 'extended family members'. Appeasement / kid handling is not the answer. Zero tolerance is called for.

[macdanger2]

If anyone came into my house to rob me and put my family in danger...gyppo or not he would get both barrels if I had a gun. So what else would youse do gooders do? Shoo them out. Cop on.

There is a big difference between self defence and murder, when Nally reloaded and shot Ward again he committed murder.

True but there's also a big difference between a one-off intruder and someone serially terrorising an old man. Hard and all as it may have been for the Wards, I have little sympathy with the man who died

I have no sympathy for the deceased, but Nally committed murder and was allowed to walk free because of public opinion.

Murder perhaps but extremely aggravated circumstances and he was found not guilty by a jury of his peers rather than public opinion