Down Club Hurling & Football

Mourne Red · January 23, 2017, 10:45:40 AM

Quote from: rosskarr on January 23, 2017, 10:39:33 AM
Quote from: Mourne Red on January 23, 2017, 09:44:09 AM
Just curious at how exactly we are in Debt? We don't have our own County facilities the likes of Tyrone do, some club grounds aren't as half as good as other county club grounds are (Fermanagh, Armagh, Tyrone, Derry)
What planet have you been living on if you don't know how and why we are in debt?

Earth

outinfront · January 23, 2017, 11:50:57 AM

Why would you assume that everyone is in the know about the financial f'up?
The lad just asked a question.
Wasn't like it happened last year or year before.

outinfront · January 23, 2017, 03:55:01 PM

Right.

I don't consider myself in the loop enough to know the ins and outs but basically it went something like this.
Down were offered a load for st Patrick's park. Were greedy holding out for more and it fell through.
Meanwhile bought a load of land which was basically useless. Market crashed. Had to sell it on. Lost a load of money. Down owe Croke who bailed us out. So we are supposed to fund academies etc while other money goes to paying the debt.

That's what I think happened. hope that answers your question.

outinfront · January 23, 2017, 03:56:15 PM

Any word on a confirmed calendar and fixtures yet?

Smurfy123 · January 23, 2017, 05:31:04 PM

Why did it cost £600000 to get out of the deal?
Who made the deal in the first place?

pointman2 · January 23, 2017, 05:43:57 PM

Some business heads - buying 'replacement' lands before they had secured completion of the sale of the land that they did own!

Interesting to know how many of those involved in those decisions are still part of or connected to or used by the County Board.

pointman2 · January 23, 2017, 05:51:44 PM

A short version would suffice!!

gaaman2016 · January 23, 2017, 06:45:58 PM

Quote from: pointman2 on January 23, 2017, 05:43:57 PM
Some business heads - buying 'replacement' lands before they had secured completion of the sale of the land that they did own!

Interesting to know how many of those involved in those decisions are still part of or connected to or used by the County Board.

Definately still some involved (including executive). Why do the clubs nver vote to remove these people?

whitegoodman · January 23, 2017, 08:47:51 PM

For those of us not in the know where has the rest of th debt come from that has crippled us to the extend that county board are struggling to write a cheque?

Is it the new stand? If so why build it if they couldn't afford to? I don't think its the cost of the senior team so I'm struggling to see where all this debt has come from.

SHEEDY · January 23, 2017, 08:54:33 PM

i was surprised to read in the irish news on saturday that niall madine hadnt been asked to join the down panel. if you could keep him fit and committed and going by the article it seems that he wants to play for down then surely he would be an asset to the panel.

whitegoodman · January 23, 2017, 09:15:34 PM

Yes disappointed to read that, would be a strange one if they don't ask him back if he is prepared to commit to the season.

gaaman2016 · January 23, 2017, 09:16:57 PM

Major problem Co Board have at the minute is that the loan from Croke Park is in € yet majority of their income is in £. I heard that they have to pay €10,000 a month to Croke Park and that the poor value of £ is crippling them at the minute. I think they have to pay this until 2028/29 which is concerning for the immediate future of the County sides if we are putting the current slump down to a lack of finances/ centre of excellence

Leftmidfield · January 23, 2017, 09:34:16 PM

Quote from: whitegoodman on January 23, 2017, 09:15:34 PM
Yes disappointed to read that, would be a strange one if they don't ask him back if he is prepared to commit to the season.

I hear Ryan Mallon has left the panel.

delgany · January 23, 2017, 11:34:26 PM

It's a pity Down Gaa weren't "in the know " with the RHI burners. They could've cleared there account .......not in DUP however !!!

oileain blues · January 24, 2017, 07:08:55 AM

You will never be able to get rid of any one at the top table while the current system of voting exists as was Bourne out when Seamus oHanlon stood against Devaney, the latter was up 17 votes plus his clubs 3 votes before it went to the floor ,therefore in reply to one question as to why certain individuals who headed up the Burrenbridge debacle are still at the top table and are representing our county at Ulster and national level.
It wasn't some business heads who decided to turn down a phenomenal amount of money for St Patrick's park and drive our county into a further 660 k of debt, it was individuals who were way out of their depth , they were full of good intentions but failed miserably.
Much has been said on the subject but in order to achieve success in the future we must learn from our mistakes in the past and it seems we haven't learned from our mistakes if some of the people who made these mistakes still sit at the top table.
One more item, there is a very important meeting on Thursday to discuss and implement changes to the league calendar for 2017 , interesting only two club representatives allowed with one vote per club!!
After Thursday this forum should be lively.