Maigh Eo v Gaillimh, 2pm, 13ú Iúil, Pairc Mhic Eil

[DJGaliv]

Let them argue among themselves. Our revenge is coming I hope!

[Crete Boom]

Let them argue among themselves. Our revenge is coming I hope!

We are getting touchy with each other because we have been here before. About this time Galway swan in and put us out of our misery so to speak and signal the end for this team. Another chapter for the House of Pain volume 2.

I suppose we will back again for some fun in about 7 or 8 years .

" Hell goes round and round. In shape it is circular, and by nature it is interminable, repetitive, and nearly unbearable. " Which about sums it up for most Mayo fans following this county for the last 25 years!!

[moysider]

Ease up Moysider, Never tried to discredit them. Conor is our all time top scorer, Richie has given great service and Evan is only a young lad, my point was that if the team was picked by Message Board Post this would be a potential FF Line. It may or may not be better than what we have at the moment.

As for Nally and Crowe there is talk of them being contenders this end of the county.

Richie would be a contender for HF, not FF, and even then most people are arguing for his introduction as a sub, not necessarily as a starter. Why so touchy about him?

Ah now!! You're the chief drum-beater in that regard. And for what it's worth, I think Feeney has been hard done by, and at the time I thought last year's final was calling out for him to be introduced. But I definitely think it's being latched onto by some as a huge injustice, far greater than is warranted. He's not getting the chance many thinks he deserves, but he's not the first and won't be the last. And remember he was a starter in the half-back line for Horan in 2011, he lost his place and hasn't won it back. That's the way it goes.

Sure that s the thing Tubberman. It was a one point game. How important could a Feeney substitution have been in the circumstances? I don t think this is about individual players and injustice though. It s about choices and decision making. The decision not to introduce Feeney last year will always be 'what could have been'. People suggest he broke a drink ban. If he did and as a manager you want to be thick about it you don t have him around. Drop him from the final panel. Not get watery about it.  What you don t do is partially exclude him. Tog him out but have no notion of playing him even though the game 'was calling out for him to be introduced'. That episode does not mean that JH owes Feeney anything now or that Feeney should be playing now. That episode could have cost us an AI. So it was a big thing for a lot of people. Not just Horan and Feeney.

Also management choose to keep a 30+ Alan Murphy in the squad last June and told a talented 19 yr to f**k off for himself - as politely as you can do that by text of course. Was Murphy going to be used much or at all? Where is he now? If the County Board make you cut the panel why choose to cut a 19yr old that scored 3-5 three days earlier and keep a guy that spent  most of his time playing soccer and has little future? Murphy is no longer about and the other lad isn t either. He - possibly wisely- decided he had no future here after how he was treated.
These are choices and decisions that management make. These decisions affect all of us that like Mayo football. Not just individual players like Richie Feeney. As regards the 'get behind the team' mantra ..... hate that tbh. It s just another way of telling somebody to 'shut the f**k up'. I don t like to be told to get behind a team. How does somebody get behind a team?

  I respect JH decisions and his perogative to make them. I just dont always agree with them. I think he s done a great job overall but just shy in a few bits, that s all. I ve seen so many regrets in the past, I hope the Horan era doesn t end up in regrets as well.

[moysider]

Let them argue among themselves. Our revenge is coming I hope!

Revenge for what!

We never did ye any harm. We still owe ye for '98. Biggest ambush ever.

There are parallels with this year.

[Syferus]

Let them argue among themselves. Our revenge is coming I hope!

Revenge for what!

We never did ye any harm. We still owe ye for '98. Biggest ambush ever.

There are parallels with this year.

This ain't a Galway team that will be upsetting any Rhubarbs in McHale Park this year. The comparisons to '98 are a long way off the mark from what I've seen.

I still think it's even up in the air if Galway have turned a corner. The Sligo game was a nothing match and reading much of anything into it would be foolish for Galway or Mayo. Cork is the stand-out performance under Mulholland for Galway and Cork were both immobile in defence and willing to try and have a skills contest, the perfect sort of outfit to make a Connacht team look good.

I'd have loved a Roscommon-Galway final this year because even though we're a younger team Galway still look greener.

The intensity Mayo bring in their tackling absolutely destroyed Galway last year. Whatever about anything else that's still there and it should cause what looks like a light Galway 9-15 a lot of trouble.

[moysider]

Let them argue among themselves. Our revenge is coming I hope!

Revenge for what!

We never did ye any harm. We still owe ye for '98. Biggest ambush ever.

There are parallels with this year.

This ain't a Galway team that will be upsetting any Rhubarbs in McHale Park this year. The comparisons to '98 are a long way off the mark from what I've seen.I still think it's even up in the air if Galway have turned a corner. The Sligo game was a nothing match and reading much of anything into it would be foolish for Galway or Mayo. Cork is the stand-out performance under Mulholland for Galway and Cork were both immobile in defence and willing to try and have a skills contest, the perfect sort of outfit to make a Connacht team look good.

I'd have loved a Roscommon-Galway final this year because even though we're a younger team Galway still look greener.

The intensity Mayo bring in their tackling absolutely destroyed Galway last year. Whatever about anything else that's still there and it should cause what looks like a light Galway 9-15 a lot of trouble.

Look, Ros and Galway would be an interesting game right now. If Ros can do a job on Mayo, why not Galway?
If a team is innocent, like both Galway and Ros were last year, this Mayo team will destroy them. But everybody knows now how to play Mayo.

[Syferus]

Let them argue among themselves. Our revenge is coming I hope!

Revenge for what!

We never did ye any harm. We still owe ye for '98. Biggest ambush ever.

There are parallels with this year.

This ain't a Galway team that will be upsetting any Rhubarbs in McHale Park this year. The comparisons to '98 are a long way off the mark from what I've seen.I still think it's even up in the air if Galway have turned a corner. The Sligo game was a nothing match and reading much of anything into it would be foolish for Galway or Mayo. Cork is the stand-out performance under Mulholland for Galway and Cork were both immobile in defence and willing to try and have a skills contest, the perfect sort of outfit to make a Connacht team look good.

I'd have loved a Roscommon-Galway final this year because even though we're a younger team Galway still look greener.

The intensity Mayo bring in their tackling absolutely destroyed Galway last year. Whatever about anything else that's still there and it should cause what looks like a light Galway 9-15 a lot of trouble.

Look, Ros and Galway would be an interesting game right now. If Ros can do a job on Mayo, why not Galway?
If a team is innocent, like both Galway and Ros were last year, this Mayo team will destroy them. But everybody knows now how to play Mayo.

We've been actively becoming much more capable defensively, the system we deployed against Mayo was first seen last July against Tyrone, Galway still look like the same Galway they've always been. Even in the Sligo game they didn't show any real bite and were Sligo half decent I'd have fancied them to win. They may have improved a little in what they do but what they do isn't what's going to give them a chance against Mayo.

In this day and age and with that panel of players that's not a good match-up against a lot of sides, Mayo being one of the worst of all and particularly at home. Maybe Galway can wow us and Mulholland shows us he has more of a tactical brain than he has displayed so far but honestly the signposts have not been there in the league or in the championship under Mulholland.

If they abandon their addiction to 'Galway' football and even put in a defensive, battling loss to Mayo like we did it will be the first real proof that they're turning the corner.

[moysider]

Let them argue among themselves. Our revenge is coming I hope!

Revenge for what!

We never did ye any harm. We still owe ye for '98. Biggest ambush ever.

There are parallels with this year.

This ain't a Galway team that will be upsetting any Rhubarbs in McHale Park this year. The comparisons to '98 are a long way off the mark from what I've seen.I still think it's even up in the air if Galway have turned a corner. The Sligo game was a nothing match and reading much of anything into it would be foolish for Galway or Mayo. Cork is the stand-out performance under Mulholland for Galway and Cork were both immobile in defence and willing to try and have a skills contest, the perfect sort of outfit to make a Connacht team look good.

I'd have loved a Roscommon-Galway final this year because even though we're a younger team Galway still look greener.

The intensity Mayo bring in their tackling absolutely destroyed Galway last year. Whatever about anything else that's still there and it should cause what looks like a light Galway 9-15 a lot of trouble.

Look, Ros and Galway would be an interesting game right now. If Ros can do a job on Mayo, why not Galway?
If a team is innocent, like both Galway and Ros were last year, this Mayo team will destroy them. But everybody knows now how to play Mayo.

We've been actively becoming much more capable defensively, the system we deployed against Mayo was first seen last July against Tyrone, Galway still look like the same Galway they've always been. Even in the Sligo game they didn't show any real bite and were Sligo half decent I'd have fancied them to win. They may have improved a little in what they do but what they do isn't what's going to give them a chance against Mayo.

In this day and age and with that panel of players that's not a good match-up against a lot of sides, Mayo being one of the worst of all and particularly at home. Maybe Galway can wow us and Mulholland shows us he has more of a tactical brain than he has displayed so far but honestly the signposts have not been there in the league or in the championship under Mulholland.If they abandon their addiction to 'Galway' football and even put in a defensive, battling loss to Mayo like we did it will be the first real proof that they're turning the corner.

Hmmmmm. I was hoping that Sligo would take the game to Galway just to see how Galway would set up. That did not happen. Sligo played defensively from the start so that scenario didn t happen. It would be a big ask for them to do it now. Maybe they did a defensive game in the league? On the other hand they could  they could take it on the traditional way? If they believe their midfield is better than us they ll go that way.

[seafoid]

Let them argue among themselves. Our revenge is coming I hope!

Revenge for what!

We never did ye any harm. We still owe ye for '98. Biggest ambush ever.
There are parallels with this year.

Mayo weren't that much better than Galway in 96 and 97 really. The 2 teams were close enough talent wise.
The last few years are a different story. But all teams eventually flop.
I don't think it'll be this year Mayo do. 

[Maroon Manc]

Let them argue among themselves. Our revenge is coming I hope!

Revenge for what!

We never did ye any harm. We still owe ye for '98. Biggest ambush ever.

There are parallels with this year.

This ain't a Galway team that will be upsetting any Rhubarbs in McHale Park this year. The comparisons to '98 are a long way off the mark from what I've seen.I still think it's even up in the air if Galway have turned a corner. The Sligo game was a nothing match and reading much of anything into it would be foolish for Galway or Mayo. Cork is the stand-out performance under Mulholland for Galway and Cork were both immobile in defence and willing to try and have a skills contest, the perfect sort of outfit to make a Connacht team look good.

I'd have loved a Roscommon-Galway final this year because even though we're a younger team Galway still look greener.

The intensity Mayo bring in their tackling absolutely destroyed Galway last year. Whatever about anything else that's still there and it should cause what looks like a light Galway 9-15 a lot of trouble.

Look, Ros and Galway would be an interesting game right now. If Ros can do a job on Mayo, why not Galway?
If a team is innocent, like both Galway and Ros were last year, this Mayo team will destroy them. But everybody knows now how to play Mayo.

I would agree with the majority of that.

We'll soon see what were about in a few week. I do think individual players have made plenty of progression, as a group though we've probably progressed slightly but to what extent remains unknown and we could have only gone one way after the heavy defeat last May. I'd have got rid of Mulholland last year after the Mayo game but whilst he's in the job he has the opportunity to prove me wrong. As I've mentioned before an average Sligo team found it very easy to get scores in the first half. I hope we react to the intensity Mayo will bring to the pitch and the pressure are backs will be on when in possession, as a group they won't have experienced that since last May.

[seafoid]

Let them argue among themselves. Our revenge is coming I hope!

Revenge for what!

We never did ye any harm. We still owe ye for '98. Biggest ambush ever.

There are parallels with this year.

This ain't a Galway team that will be upsetting any Rhubarbs in McHale Park this year. The comparisons to '98 are a long way off the mark from what I've seen.I still think it's even up in the air if Galway have turned a corner. The Sligo game was a nothing match and reading much of anything into it would be foolish for Galway or Mayo. Cork is the stand-out performance under Mulholland for Galway and Cork were both immobile in defence and willing to try and have a skills contest, the perfect sort of outfit to make a Connacht team look good.

I'd have loved a Roscommon-Galway final this year because even though we're a younger team Galway still look greener.

The intensity Mayo bring in their tackling absolutely destroyed Galway last year. Whatever about anything else that's still there and it should cause what looks like a light Galway 9-15 a lot of trouble.

Look, Ros and Galway would be an interesting game right now. If Ros can do a job on Mayo, why not Galway?
If a team is innocent, like both Galway and Ros were last year, this Mayo team will destroy them. But everybody knows now how to play Mayo.

I would agree with the majority of that.

We'll soon see what were about in a few week. I do think individual players have made plenty of progression, as a group though we've probably progressed slightly but to what extent remains unknown and we could have only gone one way after the heavy defeat last May. I'd have got rid of Mulholland last year after the Mayo game but whilst he's in the job he has the opportunity to prove me wrong. As I've mentioned before an average Sligo team found it very easy to get scores in the first half. I hope we react to the intensity Mayo will bring to the pitch and the pressure are backs will be on when in possession, as a group they won't have experienced that since last May.

I think Mulholland's job was to stop the rot and bring on the u21s even though there were so few decent older senior players to help them blend into the team. That's why he got 3 years.
If he could bring this team to the quarter finals it would be a decent achievement. 
He's not the greatest manager ever but he did what was asked of him, I think.

[DJGaliv]

It shows you how far Galway have fallen that all Mayo's concerns are about themselves (the make up and use of their squad for tougher tests ahead) and absolutely none are about any perceived threat from Galway.

To be honest I don't blame them. I would be happy if we could offer up some sort of test this year, and keep it within 5 or 6 points.

[GalwayBayBoy]

It shows you how far Galway have fallen that all Mayo's concerns are about themselves (the make up and use of their squad for tougher tests ahead) and absolutely none are about any perceived threat from Galway.

To be honest I don't blame them. I would be happy if we could offer up some sort of test this year, and keep it within 5 or 6 points.

If we are competitive throughout and lose by 5 or 6 I could accept that as a decent showing for a young side. I just don't see us going as defensive as Roscommon did even though it almost worked for them. I'm sure we will try and get players behind the ball though to some degree.

Next year is probably a year to target a major step up. We would have Mayo, Roscommon and Sligo all at home were we to meet any of them so you would expect a strong tilt at a Connacht title next year with a slightly more mature side.

[Maroon Manc]

Let them argue among themselves. Our revenge is coming I hope!

Revenge for what!

We never did ye any harm. We still owe ye for '98. Biggest ambush ever.

There are parallels with this year.

This ain't a Galway team that will be upsetting any Rhubarbs in McHale Park this year. The comparisons to '98 are a long way off the mark from what I've seen.I still think it's even up in the air if Galway have turned a corner. The Sligo game was a nothing match and reading much of anything into it would be foolish for Galway or Mayo. Cork is the stand-out performance under Mulholland for Galway and Cork were both immobile in defence and willing to try and have a skills contest, the perfect sort of outfit to make a Connacht team look good.

I'd have loved a Roscommon-Galway final this year because even though we're a younger team Galway still look greener.

The intensity Mayo bring in their tackling absolutely destroyed Galway last year. Whatever about anything else that's still there and it should cause what looks like a light Galway 9-15 a lot of trouble.

Look, Ros and Galway would be an interesting game right now. If Ros can do a job on Mayo, why not Galway?
If a team is innocent, like both Galway and Ros were last year, this Mayo team will destroy them. But everybody knows now how to play Mayo.

I would agree with the majority of that.

We'll soon see what were about in a few week. I do think individual players have made plenty of progression, as a group though we've probably progressed slightly but to what extent remains unknown and we could have only gone one way after the heavy defeat last May. I'd have got rid of Mulholland last year after the Mayo game but whilst he's in the job he has the opportunity to prove me wrong. As I've mentioned before an average Sligo team found it very easy to get scores in the first half. I hope we react to the intensity Mayo will bring to the pitch and the pressure are backs will be on when in possession, as a group they won't have experienced that since last May.

I think Mulholland's job was to stop the rot and bring on the u21s even though there were so few decent older senior players to help them blend into the team. That's why he got 3 years.
If he could bring this team to the quarter finals it would be a decent achievement. 
He's not the greatest manager ever but he did what was asked of him, I think.

I'm not sure, this is his 3rd year, he's done nothing of note so far. We could get a hiding from Mayo then end up playing a div 3/4 team in the final qualifying round as we can't face any Div 1/2 teams and then end up getting hammered in the quarters. That isn't progress, we just got a lucky draw and beat a few div 3/4 sides along the way. Progress will be giving Mayo a game and the same will go for a potential quarter final should we make it.

I don't like been too negative though, we've got some very good young players who appear to be developing well and some decent older lads. If we can stop from them scoring goals we might just give them a game. If were setup like we were in the first half against Sligo we will certainly concede a few goals.

[Maroon Manc]

It shows you how far Galway have fallen that all Mayo's concerns are about themselves (the make up and use of their squad for tougher tests ahead) and absolutely none are about any perceived threat from Galway.

To be honest I don't blame them. I would be happy if we could offer up some sort of test this year, and keep it within 5 or 6 points.

If we are competitive throughout and lose by 5 or 6 I could accept that as a decent showing for a young side. I just don't see us going as defensive as Roscommon did even though it almost worked for them. I'm sure we will try and get players behind the ball though to some degree.

Next year is probably a year to target a major step up. We would have Mayo, Roscommon and Sligo all at home were we to meet any of them so you would expect a strong tilt at a Connacht title next year with a slightly more mature side.

I agree, I'd be reasonably content with that. Just because Roscommon gave them a close game doesn't mean we will. There are 2 issues folk are factoring in, Roscommon played in a far more negative manner than we will and Mayo have already been caught on the hop and are unlikely to do so again against inferior opposition.