GAA doing a deal with SkySports

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#645
Theres a school of thought that Sky could write a deal this time to see levels of  interest on this new product.  Depending on levels of interest they can write two big  cheques three years down the line money beyond levels yet put into the gaa. Cheques go direct to GPA and GAA with the GPA becoming a very wealthy agency organisation and ultimately the players sharing in the spoils contracted to this group.
Pay for play is only 3 years away if sky want it to happen.  Gaelic football has incredible potential at home and abroad on tv not necessarily the gaa as an amateur organisation.   Try to think for one minute how that could possibly be stopped now if sky wanted it to happen and wanted to control their new product. Perhaps the cleaning up of the games is also important here.
County could be going pro and we cant do a thing about it. 

criostlinn

#646
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2014, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2014, 08:59:19 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-s-aidan-o-shea-suggests-a-levelling-of-the-playing-field-1.1763246

"{After the GAA's new television deal went public, O'Shea Tweeted the obvious benefits of Gaelic games being glammed up by Sky.
He also noted that association coffers will swell with little filtering to the most important contributors: the players.
"Can't have a professional organisation and amateur status," said Kennelly from his AFL perch.
O'Shea agreed, going a step further yesterday by envisaging a time when smaller counties will be forced to amalgamate to compete with "franchise" counties like Dublin and Kerry.
All under the banner of professionalism. "It will have to. How is it fair that you have some teams that can't compete? Eventually you can join up a couple of teams and then you have a more competitive environment.
"At the moment you have a few teams that are pissing into the wind every time they go out on the pitch. In my position as a player I don't like to be saying that about other teams but that's the reality in the sport at the moment."


They can't even keep players  in work in many of the football counties.
Ireland isn't stable enough economically to start playing players.

And who cares about permanent competitiveness ? Some day Waterford will win the hurling.
And it will be a great day.

He's never been the most intelligent footballer and now it's obvious why not

An embarrassement to himself and to Mayo football after those comments to be honest.

An embarrassment to Mayo football you say. Are you serious. The man is chatting to a couple of journalists and giving a few opinions. You might not agree with them but it's hardly makes him an embarrassment to himself and Mayo football. Now if he headed of to the local boozer after winning an all Ireland q/f and busted some lads eye socket in an unprovoked attack, well now that would be embarrassing.

Syferus

Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2014, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2014, 08:59:19 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-s-aidan-o-shea-suggests-a-levelling-of-the-playing-field-1.1763246

"{After the GAA's new television deal went public, O'Shea Tweeted the obvious benefits of Gaelic games being glammed up by Sky.
He also noted that association coffers will swell with little filtering to the most important contributors: the players.
"Can't have a professional organisation and amateur status," said Kennelly from his AFL perch.
O'Shea agreed, going a step further yesterday by envisaging a time when smaller counties will be forced to amalgamate to compete with "franchise" counties like Dublin and Kerry.
All under the banner of professionalism. "It will have to. How is it fair that you have some teams that can't compete? Eventually you can join up a couple of teams and then you have a more competitive environment.
"At the moment you have a few teams that are pissing into the wind every time they go out on the pitch. In my position as a player I don't like to be saying that about other teams but that's the reality in the sport at the moment."


They can't even keep players  in work in many of the football counties.
Ireland isn't stable enough economically to start playing players.

And who cares about permanent competitiveness ? Some day Waterford will win the hurling.
And it will be a great day.

He's never been the most intelligent footballer and now it's obvious why not

An embarrassement to himself and to Mayo football after those comments to be honest.

Classless comments. I wonder were you proportionally venomous when Connolly was having his troubles?

You can agree or disagree with Aidan but that's just pathetic.

INDIANA

Quote from: Syferus on April 18, 2014, 12:44:48 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2014, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2014, 08:59:19 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-s-aidan-o-shea-suggests-a-levelling-of-the-playing-field-1.1763246

"{After the GAA's new television deal went public, O'Shea Tweeted the obvious benefits of Gaelic games being glammed up by Sky.
He also noted that association coffers will swell with little filtering to the most important contributors: the players.
"Can't have a professional organisation and amateur status," said Kennelly from his AFL perch.
O'Shea agreed, going a step further yesterday by envisaging a time when smaller counties will be forced to amalgamate to compete with "franchise" counties like Dublin and Kerry.
All under the banner of professionalism. "It will have to. How is it fair that you have some teams that can't compete? Eventually you can join up a couple of teams and then you have a more competitive environment.
"At the moment you have a few teams that are pissing into the wind every time they go out on the pitch. In my position as a player I don't like to be saying that about other teams but that's the reality in the sport at the moment."


They can't even keep players  in work in many of the football counties.
Ireland isn't stable enough economically to start playing players.

And who cares about permanent competitiveness ? Some day Waterford will win the hurling.
And it will be a great day.

He's never been the most intelligent footballer and now it's obvious why not

An embarrassement to himself and to Mayo football after those comments to be honest.

Classless comments. I wonder were you proportionally venomous when Connolly was having his troubles?

You can agree or disagree with Aidan but that's just pathetic.


On the contrary I've just said what everyone thinks.

His comments are utter classless, without foundation and and a complete disconnect with the association he allegedly represents.

Like filling our your CAO form when you play GAA- you know there isn't a pot of gold here. If you want that play something else and leave us alone. And we will still welcome you back whe you fail at that as well.

If you have different ideas in Roscommon as well. I suggest yourselves and Mayo organise your own professional tournament.Leave the other 30 to play the game as it stands. Maybe take Michael Fennelly as well- you won't be missed

INDIANA

Quote from: rrhf on April 17, 2014, 09:54:59 PM
Theres a school of thought that Sky could write a deal this time to see levels of  interest on this new product.  Depending on levels of interest they can write two big  cheques three years down the line money beyond levels yet put into the gaa. Cheques go direct to GPA and GAA with the GPA becoming a very wealthy agency organisation and ultimately the players sharing in the spoils contracted to this group.
Pay for play is only 3 years away if sky want it to happen.  Gaelic football has incredible potential at home and abroad on tv not necessarily the gaa as an amateur organisation.   Try to think for one minute how that could possibly be stopped now if sky wanted it to happen and wanted to control their new product. Perhaps the cleaning up of the games is also important here.
County could be going pro and we cant do a thing about it.

You would end up with 5/6 professional franchises.

No money for the grassroots or clubs and a dead entity of a game and association.

GAA would then resemble junior soccer- 15 lads meeting up on a public park getting togged out under a tree.

Everything thats been built since 1884 destroyed just for a few greedy players?

Let them try out for the Leinster rugby team if they want to play professional sport.

Tubberman

Quote from: INDIANA on April 18, 2014, 10:18:52 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 18, 2014, 12:44:48 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2014, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2014, 08:59:19 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-s-aidan-o-shea-suggests-a-levelling-of-the-playing-field-1.1763246

"{After the GAA's new television deal went public, O'Shea Tweeted the obvious benefits of Gaelic games being glammed up by Sky.
He also noted that association coffers will swell with little filtering to the most important contributors: the players.
"Can't have a professional organisation and amateur status," said Kennelly from his AFL perch.
O'Shea agreed, going a step further yesterday by envisaging a time when smaller counties will be forced to amalgamate to compete with "franchise" counties like Dublin and Kerry.
All under the banner of professionalism. "It will have to. How is it fair that you have some teams that can't compete? Eventually you can join up a couple of teams and then you have a more competitive environment.
"At the moment you have a few teams that are pissing into the wind every time they go out on the pitch. In my position as a player I don't like to be saying that about other teams but that's the reality in the sport at the moment."


They can't even keep players  in work in many of the football counties.
Ireland isn't stable enough economically to start playing players.

And who cares about permanent competitiveness ? Some day Waterford will win the hurling.
And it will be a great day.

He's never been the most intelligent footballer and now it's obvious why not

An embarrassement to himself and to Mayo football after those comments to be honest.

Classless comments. I wonder were you proportionally venomous when Connolly was having his troubles?

You can agree or disagree with Aidan but that's just pathetic.


On the contrary I've just said what everyone thinks.

His comments are utter classless, without foundation and and a complete disconnect with the association he allegedly represents.

Like filling our your CAO form when you play GAA- you know there isn't a pot of gold here. If you want that play something else and leave us alone. And we will still welcome you back whe you fail at that as well.

If you have different ideas in Roscommon as well. I suggest yourselves and Mayo organise your own professional tournament.Leave the other 30 to play the game as it stands. Maybe take Michael Fennelly as well- you won't be missed

Stop talking on behalf of people you don't represent, and lose the arrogance.
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

INDIANA

Quote from: Tubberman on April 18, 2014, 10:57:02 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 18, 2014, 10:18:52 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 18, 2014, 12:44:48 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2014, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2014, 08:59:19 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-s-aidan-o-shea-suggests-a-levelling-of-the-playing-field-1.1763246

"{After the GAA's new television deal went public, O'Shea Tweeted the obvious benefits of Gaelic games being glammed up by Sky.
He also noted that association coffers will swell with little filtering to the most important contributors: the players.
"Can't have a professional organisation and amateur status," said Kennelly from his AFL perch.
O'Shea agreed, going a step further yesterday by envisaging a time when smaller counties will be forced to amalgamate to compete with "franchise" counties like Dublin and Kerry.
All under the banner of professionalism. "It will have to. How is it fair that you have some teams that can't compete? Eventually you can join up a couple of teams and then you have a more competitive environment.
"At the moment you have a few teams that are pissing into the wind every time they go out on the pitch. In my position as a player I don't like to be saying that about other teams but that's the reality in the sport at the moment."


They can't even keep players  in work in many of the football counties.
Ireland isn't stable enough economically to start playing players.

And who cares about permanent competitiveness ? Some day Waterford will win the hurling.
And it will be a great day.

He's never been the most intelligent footballer and now it's obvious why not

An embarrassement to himself and to Mayo football after those comments to be honest.

Classless comments. I wonder were you proportionally venomous when Connolly was having his troubles?

You can agree or disagree with Aidan but that's just pathetic.


On the contrary I've just said what everyone thinks.

His comments are utter classless, without foundation and and a complete disconnect with the association he allegedly represents.

Like filling our your CAO form when you play GAA- you know there isn't a pot of gold here. If you want that play something else and leave us alone. And we will still welcome you back whe you fail at that as well.

If you have different ideas in Roscommon as well. I suggest yourselves and Mayo organise your own professional tournament.Leave the other 30 to play the game as it stands. Maybe take Michael Fennelly as well- you won't be missed

Stop talking on behalf of people you don't represent, and lose the arrogance.

Stop defending the misguided comments just because he wears your county colours.


Denn Forever

I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

Rossfan

Quote from: rrhf on April 17, 2014, 09:54:59 PM
Theres a school of thought that Sky could write a deal this time to see levels of  interest on this new product.  Depending on levels of interest they can write two big  cheques three years down the line money beyond levels yet put into the gaa. Cheques go direct to GPA and GAA with the GPA becoming a very wealthy agency organisation and ultimately the players sharing in the spoils contracted to this group.
Pay for play is only 3 years away if sky want it to happen.  Gaelic football has incredible potential at home and abroad on tv not necessarily the gaa as an amateur organisation.   Try to think for one minute how that could possibly be stopped now if sky wanted it to happen and wanted to control their new product. Perhaps the cleaning up of the games is also important here.
County could be going pro and we cant do a thing about it.
That's the school of thought of the "End of the GAA as we know it" Brigade.
Frst it was the Ban, then the British Security forces/PSNI, then Croke Park having soccer /rubby, now it's the Sky showing 20 matches.
Paranoid nonsense as usual.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

INDIANA

Quote from: Rossfan on April 18, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
Quote from: rrhf on April 17, 2014, 09:54:59 PM
Theres a school of thought that Sky could write a deal this time to see levels of  interest on this new product.  Depending on levels of interest they can write two big  cheques three years down the line money beyond levels yet put into the gaa. Cheques go direct to GPA and GAA with the GPA becoming a very wealthy agency organisation and ultimately the players sharing in the spoils contracted to this group.
Pay for play is only 3 years away if sky want it to happen.  Gaelic football has incredible potential at home and abroad on tv not necessarily the gaa as an amateur organisation.   Try to think for one minute how that could possibly be stopped now if sky wanted it to happen and wanted to control their new product. Perhaps the cleaning up of the games is also important here.
County could be going pro and we cant do a thing about it.


That's the school of thought of the "End of the GAA as we know it" Brigade.
Frst it was the Ban, then the British Security forces/PSNI, then Croke Park having soccer /rubby, now it's the Sky showing 20 matches.
Paranoid nonsense as usual.

Funny how you quote cleaning up the game.

The GAA wants to go Global yet players in Donegal can't play a club game.

The GAA hierachy couldn't run a bath.

Rossfan

Quote from: INDIANA on April 18, 2014, 12:50:45 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 18, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
Quote from: rrhf on April 17, 2014, 09:54:59 PM
Theres a school of thought that Sky could write a deal this time to see levels of  interest on this new product.  Depending on levels of interest they can write two big  cheques three years down the line money beyond levels yet put into the gaa. Cheques go direct to GPA and GAA with the GPA becoming a very wealthy agency organisation and ultimately the players sharing in the spoils contracted to this group.
Pay for play is only 3 years away if sky want it to happen.  Gaelic football has incredible potential at home and abroad on tv not necessarily the gaa as an amateur organisation.   Try to think for one minute how that could possibly be stopped now if sky wanted it to happen and wanted to control their new product. Perhaps the cleaning up of the games is also important here.
County could be going pro and we cant do a thing about it.


That's the school of thought of the "End of the GAA as we know it" Brigade.
Frst it was the Ban, then the British Security forces/PSNI, then Croke Park having soccer /rubby, now it's the Sky showing 20 matches.
Paranoid nonsense as usual.

Funny how you quote cleaning up the game.

The GAA wants to go Global yet players in Donegal can't play a club game.

The GAA hierachy couldn't run a bath
.
The oul hierarchy haven't done too bad at all over the last 130 years ;)
The Donegal story is a decision of the Co Board in that County.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

thewobbler

Quote from: Rossfan on April 18, 2014, 12:55:07 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 18, 2014, 12:50:45 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on April 18, 2014, 12:46:20 PM
Quote from: rrhf on April 17, 2014, 09:54:59 PM
Theres a school of thought that Sky could write a deal this time to see levels of  interest on this new product.  Depending on levels of interest they can write two big  cheques three years down the line money beyond levels yet put into the gaa. Cheques go direct to GPA and GAA with the GPA becoming a very wealthy agency organisation and ultimately the players sharing in the spoils contracted to this group.
Pay for play is only 3 years away if sky want it to happen.  Gaelic football has incredible potential at home and abroad on tv not necessarily the gaa as an amateur organisation.   Try to think for one minute how that could possibly be stopped now if sky wanted it to happen and wanted to control their new product. Perhaps the cleaning up of the games is also important here.
County could be going pro and we cant do a thing about it.


That's the school of thought of the "End of the GAA as we know it" Brigade.
Frst it was the Ban, then the British Security forces/PSNI, then Croke Park having soccer /rubby, now it's the Sky showing 20 matches.
Paranoid nonsense as usual.

Funny how you quote cleaning up the game.

The GAA wants to go Global yet players in Donegal can't play a club game.

The GAA hierachy couldn't run a bath
.
The oul hierarchy haven't done too bad at all over the last 130 years ;)
The Donegal story is a decision of the Co Board in that County.

And as I'm always keen to remind people, that as a county board is a a representation of the clubs, this makes it a decision by the clubs.

If the clubs genuinely want to restore the balance in Donegal, it'll be easily enough done. But I'd imagine that after a couple of dry seasons for the county team, panic buttons would be pressed and the balance would swing the other way again.

----

Some absolutely mad stuff above about Sky being able to turn the game professional within 3 years.

People need to take a step back and realise that the GPA is only an equivalent to football's PFA. They might have an opinion, and might even have a very loud voice.  But they don't physically own or control a single piece of the GAA infrastructure. They can't break away as they'd have no place to go. Professionalism needs teams and fanbases, and rather importantly it needs stadiums.

Sky are utterly brilliant at marketing a product. But creating a product from scratch? Not possible.







Tubberman

Quote from: INDIANA on April 18, 2014, 11:02:43 AM
Quote from: Tubberman on April 18, 2014, 10:57:02 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 18, 2014, 10:18:52 AM
Quote from: Syferus on April 18, 2014, 12:44:48 AM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2014, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2014, 08:59:19 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-s-aidan-o-shea-suggests-a-levelling-of-the-playing-field-1.1763246

"{After the GAA's new television deal went public, O'Shea Tweeted the obvious benefits of Gaelic games being glammed up by Sky.
He also noted that association coffers will swell with little filtering to the most important contributors: the players.
"Can't have a professional organisation and amateur status," said Kennelly from his AFL perch.
O'Shea agreed, going a step further yesterday by envisaging a time when smaller counties will be forced to amalgamate to compete with "franchise" counties like Dublin and Kerry.
All under the banner of professionalism. "It will have to. How is it fair that you have some teams that can't compete? Eventually you can join up a couple of teams and then you have a more competitive environment.
"At the moment you have a few teams that are pissing into the wind every time they go out on the pitch. In my position as a player I don't like to be saying that about other teams but that's the reality in the sport at the moment."


They can't even keep players  in work in many of the football counties.
Ireland isn't stable enough economically to start playing players.

And who cares about permanent competitiveness ? Some day Waterford will win the hurling.
And it will be a great day.

He's never been the most intelligent footballer and now it's obvious why not

An embarrassement to himself and to Mayo football after those comments to be honest.

Classless comments. I wonder were you proportionally venomous when Connolly was having his troubles?

You can agree or disagree with Aidan but that's just pathetic.


On the contrary I've just said what everyone thinks.

His comments are utter classless, without foundation and and a complete disconnect with the association he allegedly represents.

Like filling our your CAO form when you play GAA- you know there isn't a pot of gold here. If you want that play something else and leave us alone. And we will still welcome you back whe you fail at that as well.

If you have different ideas in Roscommon as well. I suggest yourselves and Mayo organise your own professional tournament.Leave the other 30 to play the game as it stands. Maybe take Michael Fennelly as well- you won't be missed

Stop talking on behalf of people you don't represent, and lose the arrogance.

Stop defending the misguided comments just because he wears your county colours.



Where did I defend (or condemn) O'Shea's comments?
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

muppet

Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2014, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2014, 08:59:19 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-s-aidan-o-shea-suggests-a-levelling-of-the-playing-field-1.1763246

"{After the GAA's new television deal went public, O'Shea Tweeted the obvious benefits of Gaelic games being glammed up by Sky.
He also noted that association coffers will swell with little filtering to the most important contributors: the players.
"Can't have a professional organisation and amateur status," said Kennelly from his AFL perch.
O'Shea agreed, going a step further yesterday by envisaging a time when smaller counties will be forced to amalgamate to compete with "franchise" counties like Dublin and Kerry.
All under the banner of professionalism. "It will have to. How is it fair that you have some teams that can't compete? Eventually you can join up a couple of teams and then you have a more competitive environment.
"At the moment you have a few teams that are pissing into the wind every time they go out on the pitch. In my position as a player I don't like to be saying that about other teams but that's the reality in the sport at the moment."


They can't even keep players  in work in many of the football counties.
Ireland isn't stable enough economically to start playing players.

And who cares about permanent competitiveness ? Some day Waterford will win the hurling.
And it will be a great day.

He's never been the most intelligent footballer and now it's obvious why not

An embarrassement to himself and to Mayo football after those comments to be honest.

Really?

Those comments have been made by myself and many posters on this site in response to a debate on what would happen if the game went more professional. Just because you disagree doesn't mean you have to play the man all the time.
MWWSI 2017

INDIANA

Quote from: muppet on April 18, 2014, 03:28:14 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on April 16, 2014, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 16, 2014, 08:59:19 AM
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mayo-s-aidan-o-shea-suggests-a-levelling-of-the-playing-field-1.1763246

"{After the GAA's new television deal went public, O'Shea Tweeted the obvious benefits of Gaelic games being glammed up by Sky.
He also noted that association coffers will swell with little filtering to the most important contributors: the players.
"Can't have a professional organisation and amateur status," said Kennelly from his AFL perch.
O'Shea agreed, going a step further yesterday by envisaging a time when smaller counties will be forced to amalgamate to compete with "franchise" counties like Dublin and Kerry.
All under the banner of professionalism. "It will have to. How is it fair that you have some teams that can't compete? Eventually you can join up a couple of teams and then you have a more competitive environment.
"At the moment you have a few teams that are pissing into the wind every time they go out on the pitch. In my position as a player I don't like to be saying that about other teams but that's the reality in the sport at the moment."


They can't even keep players  in work in many of the football counties.
Ireland isn't stable enough economically to start playing players.

And who cares about permanent competitiveness ? Some day Waterford will win the hurling.
And it will be a great day.

He's never been the most intelligent footballer and now it's obvious why not

An embarrassement to himself and to Mayo football after those comments to be honest.

Really?

Those comments have been made by myself and many posters on this site in response to a debate on what would happen if the game went more professional. Just because you disagree doesn't mean you have to play the man all the time.

I think his comments are systematic of an attitude that exists among a certain amount of county footballers or something they view they are entitled to.

Nobody forces any of these guys to play county football.Anytime they aren't happy with their terms and conditions they can walk away at any point.