Girl taken from roma family in Dublin

Started by Bensars, October 22, 2013, 01:56:16 PM

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Bensars

Just after the story from greece,


Quote22/10/2013 - 12:28:36Back to Ireland Home
A blonde-haired, blue-eyed seven year-old girl has been put into care after being taken from a Roma family in Ireland.

A member of the public raised concerns about the child living with the gypsy family in a house in a south Dublin suburb.

No arrests have been made and there is no allegation of abduction against the family.

The youngster was put into the care of the Health Service Executive (HSE) yesterday afternoon when the family were unable to prove her identity conclusively.

The couple have told gardaí that the girl, who they said was born in a Dublin hospital in April 2006, is their daughter.

They have several other children who have not been taken into care.

The youngster is said to be physically well and is due to be interviewed by specialist officers.

Unlike the case where a girl, known as Maria, was found in a gypsy settlement near Farsala in central Greece, DNA tests have yet to confirm that the couple she was found with are not her parents.

The only similarity is that the girl taken into care is a blonde-haired, blue-eyed child and had a different appearance from that of the couple she was living with.

In the Greek case, a DNA test on Maria proved she was not related to Christos Salis, 39, and Eleftheria Dimopoulou, 40, and the couple have been held on charges of abduction and document fraud.

Gardaí are trying to establish the identity of the girl taken into care in Dublin and have contacted Europol and Interpol about missing children while investigations continue in Ireland.

It is understood that gardaí may seek to take DNA samples from the parents and the child to fully determine whether they are her biological parents.

It is understood that officers spent several hours at the property yesterday as they waited for documents to be produced.

A birth certificate was deemed to be inconclusive and a passport bore a picture of a baby and could not be matched to the seven-year-old.

The parents claimed that the girl was born in the Coombe Hospital in Dublin, but when gardaí contacted medical staff they had no record of a child with the family name being born on the date the parents claimed.


http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/girl-taken-from-roma-family-in-dublin-610901.html


Could be good news for some family if true !

LeoMc

Or maybe just one family torn apart because they did not keep their passport up to date.

orangeman

Quote from: LeoMc on October 22, 2013, 03:00:15 PM
Or maybe just one family torn apart because they did not keep their passport up to date.


DNA test will soon sort the passport out.

Under Lights

Quote from: orangeman on October 22, 2013, 03:11:45 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on October 22, 2013, 03:00:15 PM
Or maybe just one family torn apart because they did not keep their passport up to date.


DNA test will soon sort the passport out.

X2

I wonder are people reporting more things since the Crimewatch programme in relation to Maddie McCann?

Bensars

The very fact the parents claimed the child was born in a particular hospital on a particular date, which was not verified  by the hospital in question would raise serious doubts, passport or not !

Hardy

What about their other, non-blonde kids, then. Are they assumed to be kosher because they look like they could be?

Jeepers Creepers

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Twice this week in 2 different countries. This must be a new lead from the new evidence about Madeline McCann. Would Blond hair and blues eyes be a Romany trait?

Hardy

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on October 22, 2013, 06:48:15 PM
Twice this week in 2different countries. This most be a new lead from the new evidence about Madeline McCann. Would Blond hair and blues eyes be a Romany trait?

According to the radio news on RTÉ today, the guards contacted a medical expert in genetics at one of the Dublin hospitals and asked him how likely it was for a child of Roma parents to have blond hair and blue eyes. Apparently he said it was very unlikely.

Wildweasel74

The pic of the girl from greece is night and day to the parents keeping her, they must have kept her well hidden

qubdub

Heard somewhere that the Roma couple bought the girl for the equivalent of £19 from a Bulgarian couple.

Was talking to someone who used to work security in one of the Belfast shopping centres, a wee girl was reported missing, security straight away manned each exit to ensure no one could escape with her without being noticed, turned out after a search that the child was with two men in the gents toilets, head had been shaved already and was changed into different clothing. Neither men were foreign nationals either!

Maguire01

Quote from: LeoMc on October 22, 2013, 03:00:15 PM
Or maybe just one family torn apart because they did not keep their passport up to date.
I assume if everything stacks up she'll be back with her family without any undue delay. If I was the parent I'd be demanding the DNA test be completed straight away.

Maguire01

Quote from: Hardy on October 22, 2013, 06:40:05 PM
What about their other, non-blonde kids, then. Are they assumed to be kosher because they look like they could be?
We'll I imagine you'd start with the child who appears to be from a different racial background. You wouldn't start an investigation without some indicator that something isn't right.

AQMP

Quote from: qubdub on October 22, 2013, 07:25:16 PM
Heard somewhere that the Roma couple bought the girl for the equivalent of £19 from a Bulgarian couple.

Was talking to someone who used to work security in one of the Belfast shopping centres, a wee girl was reported missing, security straight away manned each exit to ensure no one could escape with her without being noticed, turned out after a search that the child was with two men in the gents toilets, head had been shaved already and was changed into different clothing. Neither men were foreign nationals either!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_mythology

qubdub

Quote from: AQMP on October 22, 2013, 08:05:13 PM
Quote from: qubdub on October 22, 2013, 07:25:16 PM
Heard somewhere that the Roma couple bought the girl for the equivalent of £19 from a Bulgarian couple.

Was talking to someone who used to work security in one of the Belfast shopping centres, a wee girl was reported missing, security straight away manned each exit to ensure no one could escape with her without being noticed, turned out after a search that the child was with two men in the gents toilets, head had been shaved already and was changed into different clothing. Neither men were foreign nationals either!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_mythology
Was told that today. No reason to doubt the guy either. Whatever you think yourself. Not as if he's an old guy spinning shit either, late 20s.

tyssam5

Quote from: qubdub on October 22, 2013, 08:39:36 PM
Quote from: AQMP on October 22, 2013, 08:05:13 PM
Quote from: qubdub on October 22, 2013, 07:25:16 PM
Heard somewhere that the Roma couple bought the girl for the equivalent of £19 from a Bulgarian couple.

Was talking to someone who used to work security in one of the Belfast shopping centres, a wee girl was reported missing, security straight away manned each exit to ensure no one could escape with her without being noticed, turned out after a search that the child was with two men in the gents toilets, head had been shaved already and was changed into different clothing. Neither men were foreign nationals either!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_mythology
Was told that today. No reason to doubt the guy either. Whatever you think yourself. Not as if he's an old guy spinning shit either, late 20s.

So did they just let the two guys go on their way then? Cos normally that case would go to court and everyone would hear about it.