Tyrone vs Mayo AISF Semi-Final - August 25th

[Syferus]

After the AI final last year I met a lot of very dejected and even embarrassed Mayo fans in Jurys hotel. Most didn't even want to talk about the match or hear any of my sympathy for them which was understandable. They've had that feeling much too often and fair play to them for being able to get back up on the horse and ride on again.
They sure gave Donegal a real hiding and looked on top all over the field and on that performance you would imagine they'll beat any team that gets in there way.

However, compare their fans confidence with that of most sensible Dublin fans and you get a very different picture. Dublin all year have also been putting up big scores and winning matches quite easily but there is a worry they will be caught out. Of course Kerry are always a worry for the Dubs but I am just amazed how the Mayo fans, who have suffered such pain over the years seem to believe Sam is already theirs this year.
Usually if you haven't won it for a large number of years you tend to keep yer head down and say nothing until you actually do win it. See Heffo & Co before 2011.

I think Tyrone will frustrate Mayo much more than they think and they will find it much harder to get scores than in previous games. I don't think we will have the forwards to win the game and so it depends again on how well Sean Cavanagh is contained.

On a different note, strangely part of me would be happy enough should we not get to the final this year as I know the build up to the final will be quite anti Tyrone and our negative cynical style. Everyone wants a Mayo v Dublin final I think with football being the winner which will bring an end to the Donegal/Ulster style of rugby league style of game. Whether that happens or not next year we'll have to wait to see.
It will be interesting to see how defensive Kerry set up against such a fast flowing Dublin outfit.

  I think as a Mayoman I find it better to embrace the occasion and be confident in the team. We have made it to an All Ireland semi final playing the best football from a Mayo team that I can ever remember. Personally I like to enjoy following this team and if asked whether I think this team can win the All Ireland I tell the truth and answer yes. If we get beaten by Tyrone then so be it and there is no shame in been beaten by a county that was probably the team of the last decade but I am not going to keep the head down look at the ground murmuring I don't know if asked where I think this current Mayo team are at. We have failed so many times before at this stage we have nothing to fear from failure as fans so in my opinion it is better to hope and dream rather than hide and try a deflect from a potential failure. What is the point in lying about how you feel about your county to just so you can be the first say "I warned you all" if we happen to lose in the semi final. People seem to forget that this is a semi final of a knock out competition of considerable quality so it would hardly be beyond the realms of possibility if Mayo or Dublin were to be caught out.
 
  It is pretty obvious that people in this country put a lot of stock in being cute (e.g playing down the prospects of your team) as if this is some brilliant tactic to fool an opponent when in fact it is a default position to prevent yourself from sticking your head above the parapet for fear of being proven wrong. If I were a Tyrone fan I would be confident of a possible victory as long as the team is set up correctly as a result of the successes of the last decade(due to the confidence and experience this brings) and Tyrone could very well dominate and dictate the game to win by a relatively comfortable margin of 3 or 4 points due to this Mayo team failing to live with the pressure of having to retrieve a game in the last quarter. Expect immediately a Mayo poster to think what an arrogant statement, rolling out the tired old cliche that Mayo bottle it in Croke park when in fact if you look at the fact that Mayo haven't been behind in the second half let alone the last quarter of a game this championship to date , why would this scenario be outlandish to the Mayo fan. Also if Mayo get a lightning start and win by ten plus points would anyone be really shocked after what happened in their four previous games. So where does all this accusations of arrogance and worship of the "beal bocht " come from?

Personally I think it's part and parcel ( a bad part ) of our character as a nation just like being compulsive/widely emotional is part and parcel of the character of a Mayoman/Mayowomen so please don't throw up a quote from a local paper ( Mayo or Tyrone) by some local expert (Padraic O' Malley or Adrian Logan) as some kind of beacon as to how either Mickey Harte or James Horan and their players will approach this game mentally or as a measure of the respect either sets of fans have towards each county. Also it would be nice if fans from both sides could give a genuine opinion as to why the think their county will win or lose this match without resorting to trying to be" cute" for fear of reprisal! To quote the great Mickey Harte " a man how never made a mistake , never made anything at all".

Would Mayo v Dublin be a final pairing that would be good for football? Well as a fan of the Gaa if my own county isn't in the final I would watch the final to be entertained. Does the football have to be free flowing and high scoring to do this? Well for me no and who is to say that such a match up wouldn't be cagey and defensive? I am sure a lot of people would be satisfied with a Kerry Mayo final as  wondering can Mayo seek revenge for past annihilation's at the hands of the Kingdom or will it be another case of car crash TV? Wouldn't Dublin Tyrone be interesting with the grizzly veterans of Gormely , O'Neill , Cavanagh and Harte against the young upstarts of McCaffrey , Kilkenny , Mannion and Gavin? Lastly who wouldn't want to see the war that would be Kerry Tyrone which could possibly put the who was the greatest argument to bed ( well for a little while at least)?

You mean the 'greatest argument' all these years was would an almost entirely different Tyrone team beat a bunch of old and slow Kerry legends? That boat sailed out of the harbour a long time ago. The counties still hate each other, of course.

[Fuzzman]

Yes very well put Crete Boom and usually I would be like that mindset myself, despite my own previous post. I suppose where I was coming from was that for me after we won our first in 2003 I suppose I was more open about how I thought we would do.

Ye are right though. Yis have played some great stuff all year and put up big scores. Make the most of it and enjoy it while ye can and I'll be delighted for ye when ye finally reach the promise land (again)

I would be happy not to play Kerry for another 10 years tbh

[Crete Boom]

Great post Crete Boom.

Go raibh maith agat Larry although I could have a got to the point a bit quicker like your good self in your post

[ONeill]

Ah FFS Crete this is the gaaboard. It's not to be taken seriously. It's all a bit of craic and no eejit thinks what they say has any impact on anything in the real world.

This stage is arseboxing. The tactics etc are discussed closer to the time.

How boring is the alternative. Lighten up.

[Crete Boom]

Yes very well put Crete Boom and usually I would be like that mindset myself, despite my own previous post. I suppose where I was coming from was that for me after we won our first in 2003 I suppose I was more open about how I thought we would do.

Ye are right though. Yis have played some great stuff all year and put up big scores. Make the most of it and enjoy it while ye can and I'll be delighted for ye when ye finally reach the promise land (again)

I would be happy not to play Kerry for another 10 years tbh

I think it is just having watched everyone barley mention SAM or the final in Mayo last year and watching my Donegal cousins and friends go mad and embrace it, I just thought follow the county team as you feel you should rather than hide from the mythical hype or arrogance. If you genuinely feel apprehensive about your county's championship prospects that is fine but we should leave the yerra stuff to the Kerrymen ( they only use it as a joke to wind the rest of us up anyway).
Fuzzman you wouldn't be tempted to have one more rattle at the Kingdom just to tidy the record up at 4-1 for Tyrone since 2003 ?

[nrico2006]

Have Mayo been behond in any games this year apart from early on?  Hopefully Tyrone can stay with them, frustrate their forwards and tag on the scores that will have Mayo in unchartered territory.  No better team to close out a game, I think Joe Brolly even agrees.

[Crete Boom]

After the AI final last year I met a lot of very dejected and even embarrassed Mayo fans in Jurys hotel. Most didn't even want to talk about the match or hear any of my sympathy for them which was understandable. They've had that feeling much too often and fair play to them for being able to get back up on the horse and ride on again.
They sure gave Donegal a real hiding and looked on top all over the field and on that performance you would imagine they'll beat any team that gets in there way.

However, compare their fans confidence with that of most sensible Dublin fans and you get a very different picture. Dublin all year have also been putting up big scores and winning matches quite easily but there is a worry they will be caught out. Of course Kerry are always a worry for the Dubs but I am just amazed how the Mayo fans, who have suffered such pain over the years seem to believe Sam is already theirs this year.
Usually if you haven't won it for a large number of years you tend to keep yer head down and say nothing until you actually do win it. See Heffo & Co before 2011.

I think Tyrone will frustrate Mayo much more than they think and they will find it much harder to get scores than in previous games. I don't think we will have the forwards to win the game and so it depends again on how well Sean Cavanagh is contained.

On a different note, strangely part of me would be happy enough should we not get to the final this year as I know the build up to the final will be quite anti Tyrone and our negative cynical style. Everyone wants a Mayo v Dublin final I think with football being the winner which will bring an end to the Donegal/Ulster style of rugby league style of game. Whether that happens or not next year we'll have to wait to see.
It will be interesting to see how defensive Kerry set up against such a fast flowing Dublin outfit.

  I think as a Mayoman I find it better to embrace the occasion and be confident in the team. We have made it to an All Ireland semi final playing the best football from a Mayo team that I can ever remember. Personally I like to enjoy following this team and if asked whether I think this team can win the All Ireland I tell the truth and answer yes. If we get beaten by Tyrone then so be it and there is no shame in been beaten by a county that was probably the team of the last decade but I am not going to keep the head down look at the ground murmuring I don't know if asked where I think this current Mayo team are at. We have failed so many times before at this stage we have nothing to fear from failure as fans so in my opinion it is better to hope and dream rather than hide and try a deflect from a potential failure. What is the point in lying about how you feel about your county to just so you can be the first say "I warned you all" if we happen to lose in the semi final. People seem to forget that this is a semi final of a knock out competition of considerable quality so it would hardly be beyond the realms of possibility if Mayo or Dublin were to be caught out.
 
  It is pretty obvious that people in this country put a lot of stock in being cute (e.g playing down the prospects of your team) as if this is some brilliant tactic to fool an opponent when in fact it is a default position to prevent yourself from sticking your head above the parapet for fear of being proven wrong. If I were a Tyrone fan I would be confident of a possible victory as long as the team is set up correctly as a result of the successes of the last decade(due to the confidence and experience this brings) and Tyrone could very well dominate and dictate the game to win by a relatively comfortable margin of 3 or 4 points due to this Mayo team failing to live with the pressure of having to retrieve a game in the last quarter. Expect immediately a Mayo poster to think what an arrogant statement, rolling out the tired old cliche that Mayo bottle it in Croke park when in fact if you look at the fact that Mayo haven't been behind in the second half let alone the last quarter of a game this championship to date , why would this scenario be outlandish to the Mayo fan. Also if Mayo get a lightning start and win by ten plus points would anyone be really shocked after what happened in their four previous games. So where does all this accusations of arrogance and worship of the "beal bocht " come from?

Personally I think it's part and parcel ( a bad part ) of our character as a nation just like being compulsive/widely emotional is part and parcel of the character of a Mayoman/Mayowomen so please don't throw up a quote from a local paper ( Mayo or Tyrone) by some local expert (Padraic O' Malley or Adrian Logan) as some kind of beacon as to how either Mickey Harte or James Horan and their players will approach this game mentally or as a measure of the respect either sets of fans have towards each county. Also it would be nice if fans from both sides could give a genuine opinion as to why the think their county will win or lose this match without resorting to trying to be" cute" for fear of reprisal! To quote the great Mickey Harte " a man how never made a mistake , never made anything at all".

Would Mayo v Dublin be a final pairing that would be good for football? Well as a fan of the Gaa if my own county isn't in the final I would watch the final to be entertained. Does the football have to be free flowing and high scoring to do this? Well for me no and who is to say that such a match up wouldn't be cagey and defensive? I am sure a lot of people would be satisfied with a Kerry Mayo final as  wondering can Mayo seek revenge for past annihilation's at the hands of the Kingdom or will it be another case of car crash TV? Wouldn't Dublin Tyrone be interesting with the grizzly veterans of Gormely , O'Neill , Cavanagh and Harte against the young upstarts of McCaffrey , Kilkenny , Mannion and Gavin? Lastly who wouldn't want to see the war that would be Kerry Tyrone which could possibly put the who was the greatest argument to bed ( well for a little while at least)?

You mean the 'greatest argument' all these years was would an almost entirely different Tyrone team beat a bunch of old and slow Kerry legends? That boat sailed out of the harbour a long time ago. The counties still hate each other, of course.

Are you willing to put every penny you have on say Mayo if we meet Kerry in the final?

[ONeill]

Have Mayo been behond in any games this year apart from early on?  Hopefully Tyrone can stay with them, frustrate their forwards and tag on the scores that will have Mayo in unchartered territory.  No better team to close out a game, I think Joe Brolly even agrees.

Was thinking this morning - apart from the hammering Donegal gave us, have we played a team above division three this year?

[Crete Boom]

Have Mayo been behond in any games this year apart from early on?  Hopefully Tyrone can stay with them, frustrate their forwards and tag on the scores that will have Mayo in unchartered territory.  No better team to close out a game, I think Joe Brolly even agrees.

I don't think we have been behind at half time in any of our games and definitely not in the second half.

The obvious end game for Tyrone would be to be a couple up going into the last quarter and see what Mayo do?

Is Morgan gone for the season cause he was excellent in bypassing A O' Shea with his kick outs in the league game?

[LeoMc]

Have Mayo been behond in any games this year apart from early on?  Hopefully Tyrone can stay with them, frustrate their forwards and tag on the scores that will have Mayo in unchartered territory.  No better team to close out a game, I think Joe Brolly even agrees.

Was thinking this morning - apart from the hammering Donegal gave us, have we played a team above division three this year?

Kildare.

[ONeill]

Ah. The games start to merge into a blur.

[Syferus]

After the AI final last year I met a lot of very dejected and even embarrassed Mayo fans in Jurys hotel. Most didn't even want to talk about the match or hear any of my sympathy for them which was understandable. They've had that feeling much too often and fair play to them for being able to get back up on the horse and ride on again.
They sure gave Donegal a real hiding and looked on top all over the field and on that performance you would imagine they'll beat any team that gets in there way.

However, compare their fans confidence with that of most sensible Dublin fans and you get a very different picture. Dublin all year have also been putting up big scores and winning matches quite easily but there is a worry they will be caught out. Of course Kerry are always a worry for the Dubs but I am just amazed how the Mayo fans, who have suffered such pain over the years seem to believe Sam is already theirs this year.
Usually if you haven't won it for a large number of years you tend to keep yer head down and say nothing until you actually do win it. See Heffo & Co before 2011.

I think Tyrone will frustrate Mayo much more than they think and they will find it much harder to get scores than in previous games. I don't think we will have the forwards to win the game and so it depends again on how well Sean Cavanagh is contained.

On a different note, strangely part of me would be happy enough should we not get to the final this year as I know the build up to the final will be quite anti Tyrone and our negative cynical style. Everyone wants a Mayo v Dublin final I think with football being the winner which will bring an end to the Donegal/Ulster style of rugby league style of game. Whether that happens or not next year we'll have to wait to see.
It will be interesting to see how defensive Kerry set up against such a fast flowing Dublin outfit.

  I think as a Mayoman I find it better to embrace the occasion and be confident in the team. We have made it to an All Ireland semi final playing the best football from a Mayo team that I can ever remember. Personally I like to enjoy following this team and if asked whether I think this team can win the All Ireland I tell the truth and answer yes. If we get beaten by Tyrone then so be it and there is no shame in been beaten by a county that was probably the team of the last decade but I am not going to keep the head down look at the ground murmuring I don't know if asked where I think this current Mayo team are at. We have failed so many times before at this stage we have nothing to fear from failure as fans so in my opinion it is better to hope and dream rather than hide and try a deflect from a potential failure. What is the point in lying about how you feel about your county to just so you can be the first say "I warned you all" if we happen to lose in the semi final. People seem to forget that this is a semi final of a knock out competition of considerable quality so it would hardly be beyond the realms of possibility if Mayo or Dublin were to be caught out.
 
  It is pretty obvious that people in this country put a lot of stock in being cute (e.g playing down the prospects of your team) as if this is some brilliant tactic to fool an opponent when in fact it is a default position to prevent yourself from sticking your head above the parapet for fear of being proven wrong. If I were a Tyrone fan I would be confident of a possible victory as long as the team is set up correctly as a result of the successes of the last decade(due to the confidence and experience this brings) and Tyrone could very well dominate and dictate the game to win by a relatively comfortable margin of 3 or 4 points due to this Mayo team failing to live with the pressure of having to retrieve a game in the last quarter. Expect immediately a Mayo poster to think what an arrogant statement, rolling out the tired old cliche that Mayo bottle it in Croke park when in fact if you look at the fact that Mayo haven't been behind in the second half let alone the last quarter of a game this championship to date , why would this scenario be outlandish to the Mayo fan. Also if Mayo get a lightning start and win by ten plus points would anyone be really shocked after what happened in their four previous games. So where does all this accusations of arrogance and worship of the "beal bocht " come from?

Personally I think it's part and parcel ( a bad part ) of our character as a nation just like being compulsive/widely emotional is part and parcel of the character of a Mayoman/Mayowomen so please don't throw up a quote from a local paper ( Mayo or Tyrone) by some local expert (Padraic O' Malley or Adrian Logan) as some kind of beacon as to how either Mickey Harte or James Horan and their players will approach this game mentally or as a measure of the respect either sets of fans have towards each county. Also it would be nice if fans from both sides could give a genuine opinion as to why the think their county will win or lose this match without resorting to trying to be" cute" for fear of reprisal! To quote the great Mickey Harte " a man how never made a mistake , never made anything at all".

Would Mayo v Dublin be a final pairing that would be good for football? Well as a fan of the Gaa if my own county isn't in the final I would watch the final to be entertained. Does the football have to be free flowing and high scoring to do this? Well for me no and who is to say that such a match up wouldn't be cagey and defensive? I am sure a lot of people would be satisfied with a Kerry Mayo final as  wondering can Mayo seek revenge for past annihilation's at the hands of the Kingdom or will it be another case of car crash TV? Wouldn't Dublin Tyrone be interesting with the grizzly veterans of Gormely , O'Neill , Cavanagh and Harte against the young upstarts of McCaffrey , Kilkenny , Mannion and Gavin? Lastly who wouldn't want to see the war that would be Kerry Tyrone which could possibly put the who was the greatest argument to bed ( well for a little while at least)?

You mean the 'greatest argument' all these years was would an almost entirely different Tyrone team beat a bunch of old and slow Kerry legends? That boat sailed out of the harbour a long time ago. The counties still hate each other, of course.

Are you willing to put every penny you have on say Mayo if we meet Kerry in the final?

If by some miricle the Dublin team all contract a superbug or two, yes, I'd put everything I own on Mayo kicking that Kerry team around like an old football.

At least Tyrone have a smidge of hope in trying to rugby tackle ye to death. Gooch isn't going to be pulling down AOS anytime soon.

[Lar Naparka]

On this day 1989 - Mayo 0-12 Tyrone 1-6

Remember it vividly.

Aftermath in Mayo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_T7Znq7VA4

Great video
The shtate of the roads and cars!

Look at them with their flags and all, rubbing it in after beating Tyrone. Sickening arrogance! Hope we can do it for the '89 boys - Unfinished Business!! 

C'mere me bucko, houl' yer horses right there!
Where do you see anything about Tyrone in that video?
Ye were past history at that stage. Sure doesn't the video caption tell it all?
It doesn't refer to Tyrone or a semi final of any sort, does it?
FFS, them flags were up since ye won the Ulster title, and they were up for the final in case you didn't notice!!
There was just one reference, and it was only a half-arsed one at that, that sorta mentioned the game against you shower at all. You'll find it around 1.40 in the video.
"Mayo well done. Good luck in Croke Park."
That's what we thought of youse then and that's what we think of youse now!
So there!

[Redhand Santa]

After the AI final last year I met a lot of very dejected and even embarrassed Mayo fans in Jurys hotel. Most didn't even want to talk about the match or hear any of my sympathy for them which was understandable. They've had that feeling much too often and fair play to them for being able to get back up on the horse and ride on again.
They sure gave Donegal a real hiding and looked on top all over the field and on that performance you would imagine they'll beat any team that gets in there way.

However, compare their fans confidence with that of most sensible Dublin fans and you get a very different picture. Dublin all year have also been putting up big scores and winning matches quite easily but there is a worry they will be caught out. Of course Kerry are always a worry for the Dubs but I am just amazed how the Mayo fans, who have suffered such pain over the years seem to believe Sam is already theirs this year.
Usually if you haven't won it for a large number of years you tend to keep yer head down and say nothing until you actually do win it. See Heffo & Co before 2011.

I think Tyrone will frustrate Mayo much more than they think and they will find it much harder to get scores than in previous games. I don't think we will have the forwards to win the game and so it depends again on how well Sean Cavanagh is contained.

On a different note, strangely part of me would be happy enough should we not get to the final this year as I know the build up to the final will be quite anti Tyrone and our negative cynical style. Everyone wants a Mayo v Dublin final I think with football being the winner which will bring an end to the Donegal/Ulster style of rugby league style of game. Whether that happens or not next year we'll have to wait to see.
It will be interesting to see how defensive Kerry set up against such a fast flowing Dublin outfit.

Your easily annoyed. I couldn't care what they write if Tyrone get to the final. If anything it makes it all the sweeter to go on and win it.

[BennyHarp]

On this day 1989 - Mayo 0-12 Tyrone 1-6

Remember it vividly.

Aftermath in Mayo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_T7Znq7VA4

Great video
The shtate of the roads and cars!

Look at them with their flags and all, rubbing it in after beating Tyrone. Sickening arrogance! Hope we can do it for the '89 boys - Unfinished Business!! 

C'mere me bucko, houl' yer horses right there!
Where do you see anything about Tyrone in that video?
Ye were past history at that stage. Sure doesn't the video caption tell it all?
It doesn't refer to Tyrone or a semi final of any sort, does it?
FFS, them flags were up since ye won the Ulster title, and they were up for the final in case you didn't notice!!
There was just one reference, and it was only a half-arsed one at that, that sorta mentioned the game against you shower at all. You'll find it around 1.40 in the video.
"Mayo well done. Good luck in Croke Park."
That's what we thought of youse then and that's what we think of youse now!
So there!

Boys swanning around Castlebar wearing green and red hats (4.54)?  Parents forcing kids to wear the full kit into town, even though its plainly too small (5.22)? How do you explain that behaviour? If that's not losing the run of yourselves, well then I don't know what is!