Dispatches/Panorama Horsemeat Expose

[seafoid]

After all the regulation up to now turning out to be f**king useless, you want to increase the cost to the taxpayer and workload on the producers by bringing in more of the failed regulation that has been proved to be nothing more than window dressing?

We don't need regulation to arrest people who have endangered the lives of every man, woman and child in the public eating processed meat. We just need a department/government with some balls.

Shit regulation or no regulation is more expensive than decent regulation.

Look at BP today. The blowout of the Macondo rig cost them $15bn.

[An Gaeilgoir]

The comments about farmers in here is correct, the amount of paperwork connected to the buying and selling of sheep/cattle is unbelievable, god help you if one dies.........I see my brother spend hours tagging sheep, filling out registers, questionnaires for f**king Bord Bia, local producers group and so on.

The real scandal here is the collusion between the vets and processors.......anything goes, i have seen first hand in a slaughter house, EU stamps been added to caresses, when the animal was unable to stand up entering the abattoir (thus should not enter the food chain). while the vet on duty turned a blind eye, worn out cows been labelled as the finest prime beef and so on.
These vets getting hundreds of Euros a day to enforce the regs and choosing to turn a blind  eye.

If anyone needs proof, look at the scandal of the TB testing scandal and the amount of money that this has cost the taxpayer over the last 40 years. (After 40 years of testing by vets, the rate of TB has not decreased by f**k all, yet the vets make millions every year from testing)............and round and round it goes.

[macdanger2]

The shorter the food cycle the less opportunity there is for this kind of thing - the increased regulations around abbatoirs weren't data-driven, they were bureaucracy-driven from Europe. This resulted in the shutting down of loads of small abbatoirs and the creation of a cartel of large abbatoirs & meat factories, which has benefitted nobody (certainly not the farmer or the consumer) except the owners.

[lawnseed]

The shorter the food cycle the less opportunity there is for this kind of thing - the increased regulations around abbatoirs weren't data-driven, they were bureaucracy-driven from Europe. This resulted in the shutting down of loads of small abbatoirs and the creation of a cartel of large abbatoirs & meat factories, which has benefitted nobody (certainly not the farmer or the consumer) except the owners.

very true. there is no real competition between meat processers on this island. they simply share the cattle according to their needs. they cant get any movement from the supermarkets so they screw every penny out of the farmer who due to even more red tape is trapped and has no other place to go with his cattle. hence the £140/head difference between here and sister factories of the same company in england or even more between here and scotland.  the only way out of this mess is for dard to remove all restrictions on live shipments directly to abbotoirs in britain. modern cattle trucks are like airplanes with water,food and bedding factories anywhere in britain could be reached easily

[armaghniac]

Ireland and UK clear on the recent horsemeat tests, problems remain elsewhere. Ireland has basically got ahead of the curve on this one.

[lawnseed]

Ireland and UK clear on the recent horsemeat tests, problems remain elsewhere. Ireland has basically got ahead of the curve on this one.

we are not out of the woods yet. there is a build up of the meat used in the ready made meal market they cant get rid of it. its being frozen and stored. its only a matter of time until those costs are pushed onto the farmer