Rugby - what's the attraction?

[rodney trotter]

Did quite a number of Dublin lads from Kilmacud not attend Blackrock??

Mark Vaughan went there ffs!!!

He did,played soccer with them aswell. Scored a goal against Pats Cavan in the final Irish  Schools Cup Final in Belfield.

Don't think there was many other lads from Kilmacud there though.

[Sidney]

And John Hayes is a toff,

John Hayes never played rugby until he was 18.

That really demonstrates what a skilful game rugby is. You never played until you were 18, and yet still end up winning over 100 international caps.

John probably walked down to Bruff RFC for his first training session and asked, "what do I do?"

"Push, lad, push", answers the coach.

#skillsetz

[Sidney]

Trevor Brennan

Not from Dublin.

[AZOffaly]

First of all it was said you 'have to be a toff'. I pointed out a couple from my knowledge, of which there are several more I know off the top of my head where you wouldn't say 'toff'. You seem to somehow have morphed that into 'no working class inner city Dub' has played international rugby. I have no idea if they did or not. Maybe they didn't, maybe Rugby isn't as popular in working class areas of Dublin, I don't know.

All I said was that you didn't have to be a toff to play or succeed at rugby, and I gave you a couple of examples. And there wouldn't be many more working class areas than Moyross, or does Earls not count because he's from Limerick?

Rugby, especially in Dublin, had a problem with exclusion/inclusion, not a doubt about it. But I think the spread of professionalism, and the popularity of rugby, have meant that a lot more people are playing it. I don't know if working class Dublin has or has not started.

[AZOffaly]

Trevor Brennan

Not from Dublin.

why has this now turned into 'Dublin'. That wasn't the original comment. If that's what you or Benny meant, why not say "You can't play rugby at international level if you are from inner city Dublin"

[seafoid]

OK, donnahca Ryan from Nenagh, Peter Clohessy, the Currow Lads. Do I have to keep going?

D'arcy is from Wexford and the fullback and the brother are from Louth. Wasn't Popplewell from Gorey as well ?
If they left it to the toffs they'd never win anything. Look what those lads did to the banks. 

[Sidney]

Look at how Trevor Brennan was frozen out by Leinster. His type weren't welcome there.

[deiseach]

AZ, they're not going to engage with what you are saying.

[AZOffaly]

AZ, they're not going to engage with what you are saying.

I know that. I should know better I suppose.

[Sidney]

OK, donnahca Ryan from Nenagh, Peter Clohessy, the Currow Lads. Do I have to keep going?

D'arcy is from Wexford and the fullback and the brother are from Louth. Wasn't Popplewell from Gorey as well ?
If they left it to the toffs they'd never win anything. Look what those lads did to the banks.

D'Arcy: Blackrock College Holy Ghost Fathers
Kearney: Clongowes Wood College Jesuit Fathers
Popplewell: Newtown School Waterford Religious Society of Friends*

*Not a reference to the US comedy series, for any female rugby fans reading.

[deiseach]

AZ, they're not going to engage with what you are saying.

I know that. I should know better I suppose.

You and me both

[Sidney]

Just because it's a different game doesn't mean there is any less skill involved!!

Pushing and lying on the ground in a heap are not skills.

Whereas diving to the ground and rolling about as if you've been shot is considered a skill in soccer.

Association football has a far greater "culture of respect" than rugby.

[screenexile]

Just because it's a different game doesn't mean there is any less skill involved!!

Pushing and lying on the ground in a heap are not skills.

Whereas diving to the ground and rolling about as if you've been shot is considered a skill in soccer.

Association football has a far greater "culture of respect" than rugby.

Ah here . . . are you joking??!!

[take_yer_points]

Just because it's a different game doesn't mean there is any less skill involved!!

Pushing and lying on the ground in a heap are not skills.

Whereas diving to the ground and rolling about as if you've been shot is considered a skill in soccer.

Association football has a far greater "culture of respect" than rugby.

Respect for who? And who shows this respect?

Is there a lack of respect in rugby do you think? Again, towards who and from who?

[Sidney]

Association football has a far greater "culture of respect" than rugby.

Ah here . . . are you joking??!!

Were those union jacks left behind from when the IRFU used to still fly them at Lansdowne Road until the late 1920s?