ABK - Anyone But Kildare?

Started by ONeill, July 05, 2012, 12:23:26 PM

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Donnellys Hollow

The really annoying thing about what happened on Saturday from a Kildare point of view is that the media were beginning to lose interest in the Johnston saga. Whatever people thought it was a good idea to facilitate that farce in Clane on the eve of a big championship match for Kildare need to take a good look at themselves.

Johnston had got his transfer and could have played away with St Kevin's for the summer and into the autumn. He could then start a fresh next winter when most people would have moved on. His debut in a small O'Byrne Cup match would attract some attention but it would quickly be forgotten about and by the time the league is in full swing. The media would have moved on to the next controversy.

Kildare people claiming that Johnston was left with no option but to line out for Coill Dubh are not doing themselves any favours. It's the other Kildare players I feel sympathy for. I can't believe that the whole saga has not had some affect on the panel. The players are no doubt being asked about this at work, on the street and when they're out socialising. It's not like they're professional sportspeople who are well used to the media scrutiny and can largely detatch themselves from the public.

*Coill Dubh play Ardclough in the winners group in the hurling championship the weekend after next. Hopefully the bumper crowd that turned out in Clane will be out in force again.
There's Seán Brady going in, what dya think Seán?

Ohtoohtobe

What we are being bludgeoned with is inaccuracies and misleading statements.

This thing about training budgets is also written by journalists who provide no figures. Well, I've looked at the figures, and Kildare's spend is a long way behind, for example, Cork and Dublin's.

It's also really getting to me that it's now acceptable to equate Benny Coulter's square ball with Graham Geraghty's. Geraghty was on the fringe of the square and it was a really close call. Coulter was almost on the goal-line. Plus, Kildare were a centimetre from beating Down; whereas we were four up at the time of Geraghty's 'goal' and won by six.

It's now also fashionable to intimate that McGeeney hasn't done a great job in Kildare when it is a plain fact that he has, and any comparison of results before and after his arrival proves it.

I've great respect for Declan Bogue as a journalist but he's let himself down here with hindsight wisdom. He has twisted several facts to suit his point.

As for whether people hate us or not, I genuinely couldn't give a shite.

heffo

Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
This thing about training budgets is also written by journalists who provide no figures. Well, I've looked at the figures, and Kildare's spend is a long way behind, for example, Cork and Dublin's.


There is a good reason why Kildare are behind Dublin & Cork.

Both of those counties are dual counties with successful underage teams in both codes.

orangeman

Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
This thing about training budgets is also written by journalists who provide no figures. Well, I've looked at the figures, and Kildare's spend is a long way behind, for example, Cork and Dublin's.


There is a good reason why Kildare are behind Dublin & Cork.

Both of those counties are dual counties with successful underage teams in both codes.

Ouch !

Ohtoohtobe

Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
This thing about training budgets is also written by journalists who provide no figures. Well, I've looked at the figures, and Kildare's spend is a long way behind, for example, Cork and Dublin's.


There is a good reason why Kildare are behind Dublin & Cork.

Both of those counties are dual counties with successful underage teams in both codes.

I'm not counting hurling expenditure Heffo. I'm talking about money spent on the senior footballers.

GalwayBayBoy


heffo

Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
This thing about training budgets is also written by journalists who provide no figures. Well, I've looked at the figures, and Kildare's spend is a long way behind, for example, Cork and Dublin's.


There is a good reason why Kildare are behind Dublin & Cork.

Both of those counties are dual counties with successful underage teams in both codes.

I'm not counting hurling expenditure Heffo. I'm talking about money spent on the senior footballers.

Thats because Dublin get further and hence cost more.

Ps - didn't mean that comment to sound as bitchy as it came across - the figure for Dublins training costs last year covered both codes and Minor & U21

Dinny Breen

Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
This thing about training budgets is also written by journalists who provide no figures. Well, I've looked at the figures, and Kildare's spend is a long way behind, for example, Cork and Dublin's.


There is a good reason why Kildare are behind Dublin & Cork.

Both of those counties are dual counties with successful underage teams in both codes.

I'm not counting hurling expenditure Heffo. I'm talking about money spent on the senior footballers.

Why not, I'm interested in what under-age success is now deemed as, because in hurling, Corks last Munster minor was 2008 and All-Ireland was 2001 and Corks last Munster u21 was 2007 and All-Ireland 1998, rapid under-age success there?



#newbridgeornowhere

heffo

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2012, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
This thing about training budgets is also written by journalists who provide no figures. Well, I've looked at the figures, and Kildare's spend is a long way behind, for example, Cork and Dublin's.


There is a good reason why Kildare are behind Dublin & Cork.

Both of those counties are dual counties with successful underage teams in both codes.

I'm not counting hurling expenditure Heffo. I'm talking about money spent on the senior footballers.

Why not, I'm interested in what under-age success is now deemed as, because in hurling, Corks last Munster minor was 2008 and All-Ireland was 2001 and Corks last Munster u21 was 2007 and All-Ireland 1998, rapid under-age success there?

There are still costs associated with preparing teams at Minor and U21 in both codes - something Kildare don't really have to consider.

Dinny Breen

Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2012, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
This thing about training budgets is also written by journalists who provide no figures. Well, I've looked at the figures, and Kildare's spend is a long way behind, for example, Cork and Dublin's.


There is a good reason why Kildare are behind Dublin & Cork.

Both of those counties are dual counties with successful underage teams in both codes.

I'm not counting hurling expenditure Heffo. I'm talking about money spent on the senior footballers.

Why not, I'm interested in what under-age success is now deemed as, because in hurling, Corks last Munster minor was 2008 and All-Ireland was 2001 and Corks last Munster u21 was 2007 and All-Ireland 1998, rapid under-age success there?

There are still costs associated with preparing teams at Minor and U21 in both codes - something Kildare don't really have to consider.

Kildare still field at minor and u21 hurling, we haven't completely turned our back on it.

Out of curiosity is there a table of expenditure for each county?
#newbridgeornowhere

heffo

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2012, 03:30:08 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2012, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
This thing about training budgets is also written by journalists who provide no figures. Well, I've looked at the figures, and Kildare's spend is a long way behind, for example, Cork and Dublin's.


There is a good reason why Kildare are behind Dublin & Cork.

Both of those counties are dual counties with successful underage teams in both codes.

I'm not counting hurling expenditure Heffo. I'm talking about money spent on the senior footballers.

Why not, I'm interested in what under-age success is now deemed as, because in hurling, Corks last Munster minor was 2008 and All-Ireland was 2001 and Corks last Munster u21 was 2007 and All-Ireland 1998, rapid under-age success there?

There are still costs associated with preparing teams at Minor and U21 in both codes - something Kildare don't really have to consider.

Out of curiosity is there a table of expenditure for each county?

Am running out the door to the Stone Roses, but some figures from last year:

Dublin spent nearly €2m from Minor up in both codes.

Kildare spent €775k on the Senior Footballers.

Antrim spent just over €400k on both codes.

Offaly spent €390 on both codes.

Kilkenny spent €486k on the Senior Hurlers.

orangeman

Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2012, 03:30:08 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2012, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
This thing about training budgets is also written by journalists who provide no figures. Well, I've looked at the figures, and Kildare's spend is a long way behind, for example, Cork and Dublin's.


There is a good reason why Kildare are behind Dublin & Cork.

Both of those counties are dual counties with successful underage teams in both codes.

I'm not counting hurling expenditure Heffo. I'm talking about money spent on the senior footballers.

Why not, I'm interested in what under-age success is now deemed as, because in hurling, Corks last Munster minor was 2008 and All-Ireland was 2001 and Corks last Munster u21 was 2007 and All-Ireland 1998, rapid under-age success there?

There are still costs associated with preparing teams at Minor and U21 in both codes - something Kildare don't really have to consider.

Out of curiosity is there a table of expenditure for each county?

Am running out the door to the Stone Roses, but some figures from last year:

Dublin spent nearly €2m from Minor up in both codes.

Kildare spent €775k on the Senior Footballers.

Antrim spent just over €400k on both codes.

Offaly spent €390 on both codes.

Kilkenny spent €486k on the Senior Hurlers.

Value for money there.

GalwayBayBoy

Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2012, 03:30:08 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2012, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
This thing about training budgets is also written by journalists who provide no figures. Well, I've looked at the figures, and Kildare's spend is a long way behind, for example, Cork and Dublin's.


There is a good reason why Kildare are behind Dublin & Cork.

Both of those counties are dual counties with successful underage teams in both codes.

I'm not counting hurling expenditure Heffo. I'm talking about money spent on the senior footballers.

Why not, I'm interested in what under-age success is now deemed as, because in hurling, Corks last Munster minor was 2008 and All-Ireland was 2001 and Corks last Munster u21 was 2007 and All-Ireland 1998, rapid under-age success there?

There are still costs associated with preparing teams at Minor and U21 in both codes - something Kildare don't really have to consider.

Out of curiosity is there a table of expenditure for each county?

Offaly spent €390 on both codes.

Sad thing is you could even believe that might be true.

Dinny Breen

Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2012, 03:30:08 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2012, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
This thing about training budgets is also written by journalists who provide no figures. Well, I've looked at the figures, and Kildare's spend is a long way behind, for example, Cork and Dublin's.


There is a good reason why Kildare are behind Dublin & Cork.

Both of those counties are dual counties with successful underage teams in both codes.

I'm not counting hurling expenditure Heffo. I'm talking about money spent on the senior footballers.

Why not, I'm interested in what under-age success is now deemed as, because in hurling, Corks last Munster minor was 2008 and All-Ireland was 2001 and Corks last Munster u21 was 2007 and All-Ireland 1998, rapid under-age success there?

There are still costs associated with preparing teams at Minor and U21 in both codes - something Kildare don't really have to consider.

Out of curiosity is there a table of expenditure for each county?

Am running out the door to the Stone Roses, but some figures from last year:

Dublin spent nearly €2m from Minor up in both codes.

Kildare spent €775k on the Senior Footballers.

Antrim spent just over €400k on both codes.

Offaly spent €390 on both codes.

Kilkenny spent €486k on the Senior Hurlers.

Bloody hell, where are you walking from, they're not on stage till 9:15pm.
#newbridgeornowhere

Croí na hÉireann

Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2012, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2012, 03:30:08 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on July 05, 2012, 03:18:16 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 03:07:58 PM
Quote from: heffo on July 05, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
Quote from: Ohtoohtobe on July 05, 2012, 02:27:50 PM
This thing about training budgets is also written by journalists who provide no figures. Well, I've looked at the figures, and Kildare's spend is a long way behind, for example, Cork and Dublin's.


There is a good reason why Kildare are behind Dublin & Cork.

Both of those counties are dual counties with successful underage teams in both codes.

I'm not counting hurling expenditure Heffo. I'm talking about money spent on the senior footballers.

Why not, I'm interested in what under-age success is now deemed as, because in hurling, Corks last Munster minor was 2008 and All-Ireland was 2001 and Corks last Munster u21 was 2007 and All-Ireland 1998, rapid under-age success there?

There are still costs associated with preparing teams at Minor and U21 in both codes - something Kildare don't really have to consider.

Out of curiosity is there a table of expenditure for each county?

Am running out the door to the Stone Roses, but some figures from last year:

Dublin spent nearly €2m from Minor up in both codes.

Kildare spent €775k on the Senior Footballers.

Antrim spent just over €400k on both codes.

Offaly spent €390 on both codes.

Kilkenny spent €486k on the Senior Hurlers.

Bloody hell, where are you walking from, they're not on stage till 9:15pm.

Counting your chickens there Dinny.
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