Moyle District Council Officially Twins With Gaza City

Started by give her dixie, March 13, 2012, 12:39:10 AM

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muppet

Quote from: Nally Stand on October 23, 2013, 12:26:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on October 23, 2013, 11:46:59 AM
To be honest this looks like the murky world of real politics.

Rather than operating in ideological isolation, as they have always done, Sinn Féin (and whoever the counter-party is) now has matured to live with some give and take. The frustrating thing for some supporters who are particularly focussed on single issues, will be when the 'give' comes down on their issue, as it appears to be the case with this councillor and Dixie.

It is now never about the merit of the argument, it is only about politics.

In a strange way this actually shows that politics up north is actually slowly moving away from the past medieval ranting to somewhere in the wheeling and dealing 20th century, and joining the UK & Ireland there.

So the north has been stuck in the past, but the south hasn't? Not the impression I got during the presidential elections!

The north is only now moving into normal politics.

The south has been mired in politics for a long time.
MWWSI 2017

Saffrongael

Sinn Feins Martina Anderson is on a junket to Palestine at the minute.
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

give her dixie

Quote from: Saffrongael on October 28, 2013, 10:14:35 PM
Sinn Feins Martina Anderson is on a junket to Palestine at the minute.

At the same time as Martin McGuinness was heaping praise on Caterpillar (along with another £1 million grant, bringing to nearly £3 million they have received this year). Stating "Caterpillar is an important investor, not only in terms of jobs and wealth creation but also in the credibility its presence lends to doing business here", McGuinness forgot how Caterpillar equipment is used on a daily basis to demolish Palestinian homes by the thousands? Or maybe he forgot how their D9 Dozer killed Rachel Corrie? Or, did he forget how they sent 750 people to the dole just a year ago?
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

theskull1

GHD ... I'm not saying youre not right to highlight double standards and hypocrisy when its there to be highlighted.

My question is ...is there a principled politician out there who would tell investors to take a run and jump as they try to develop the local economy? Easy to be principled is it not from where we're sitting?

Its an ugly world out there
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

mylestheslasher

Quote from: give her dixie on October 29, 2013, 01:11:44 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 28, 2013, 10:14:35 PM
Sinn Feins Martina Anderson is on a junket to Palestine at the minute.

At the same time as Martin McGuinness was heaping praise on Caterpillar (along with another £1 million grant, bringing to nearly £3 million they have received this year). Stating "Caterpillar is an important investor, not only in terms of jobs and wealth creation but also in the credibility its presence lends to doing business here", McGuinness forgot how Caterpillar equipment is used on a daily basis to demolish Palestinian homes by the thousands? Or maybe he forgot how their D9 Dozer killed Rachel Corrie? Or, did he forget how they sent 750 people to the dole just a year ago?

I agree with you on quite a lot of things Dixie but this is just nonsense. Caterpillar make earth moving equipment, not weapons of war. If the end user decides to drive a caterpillar over someone how can the company be held responsible. Should all the sub contractors who supply gears, engines etc etc to Caterpillar be also boycotted. This is a silly argument and you'd be better sticking to the many other sensible arguments that are out there instead of trying to win this one.

glens abu

Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 29, 2013, 02:01:50 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on October 29, 2013, 01:11:44 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 28, 2013, 10:14:35 PM
Sinn Feins Martina Anderson is on a junket to Palestine at the minute.

At the same time as Martin McGuinness was heaping praise on Caterpillar (along with another £1 million grant, bringing to nearly £3 million they have received this year). Stating "Caterpillar is an important investor, not only in terms of jobs and wealth creation but also in the credibility its presence lends to doing business here", McGuinness forgot how Caterpillar equipment is used on a daily basis to demolish Palestinian homes by the thousands? Or maybe he forgot how their D9 Dozer killed Rachel Corrie? Or, did he forget how they sent 750 people to the dole just a year ago?

I agree with you on quite a lot of things Dixie but this is just nonsense. Caterpillar make earth moving equipment, not weapons of war. If the end user decides to drive a caterpillar over someone how can the company be held responsible. Should all the sub contractors who supply gears, engines etc etc to Caterpillar be also boycotted. This is a silly argument and you'd be better sticking to the many other sensible arguments that are out there instead of trying to win this one.

Have already been down that road with Dixie but he has his wee anti SF hat on at the minute and so blinded with hate. :-[

gallsman

Quote from: give her dixie on October 29, 2013, 01:11:44 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 28, 2013, 10:14:35 PM
Sinn Feins Martina Anderson is on a junket to Palestine at the minute.
Or maybe he forgot how their D9 Dozer killed Rachel Corrie?

Oh f**k off. "Caterpillar responsible for Rachel Corrie death".

seafoid

Quote from: gallsman on October 29, 2013, 02:35:27 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on October 29, 2013, 01:11:44 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 28, 2013, 10:14:35 PM
Sinn Feins Martina Anderson is on a junket to Palestine at the minute.
Or maybe he forgot how their D9 Dozer killed Rachel Corrie?

Oh f**k off. "Caterpillar responsible for Rachel Corrie death".
Do caterpillar make the armoured Dozers or is it the Israelis who modify them?
Rachel Corrie's murder was not ideal  for the Caterpillar brand. 

gallsman

Quote from: seafoid on October 29, 2013, 04:02:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 29, 2013, 02:35:27 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on October 29, 2013, 01:11:44 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 28, 2013, 10:14:35 PM
Sinn Feins Martina Anderson is on a junket to Palestine at the minute.
Or maybe he forgot how their D9 Dozer killed Rachel Corrie?

Oh f**k off. "Caterpillar responsible for Rachel Corrie death".
Do caterpillar make the armoured Dozers or is it the Israelis who modify them?
Rachel Corrie's murder was not ideal  for the Caterpillar brand.

Regardless, to imply that, on principle, Caterpillar bear some responsibility for her death is ludicrous.

Should Irish nationalists oppose Land Rover given their connection to the RUC?

Should Americans oppose Boeing for supplying the 9/11 hijackers with a plane that could be hijacked?

Utter nonsense.

seafoid

Quote from: gallsman on October 29, 2013, 04:20:38 PM
Quote from: seafoid on October 29, 2013, 04:02:36 PM
Quote from: gallsman on October 29, 2013, 02:35:27 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on October 29, 2013, 01:11:44 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 28, 2013, 10:14:35 PM
Sinn Feins Martina Anderson is on a junket to Palestine at the minute.
Or maybe he forgot how their D9 Dozer killed Rachel Corrie?

Oh f**k off. "Caterpillar responsible for Rachel Corrie death".
Do caterpillar make the armoured Dozers or is it the Israelis who modify them?
Rachel Corrie's murder was not ideal  for the Caterpillar brand.

Regardless, to imply that, on principle, Caterpillar bear some responsibility for her death is ludicrous.

Should Irish nationalists oppose Land Rover given their connection to the RUC?

Should Americans oppose Boeing for supplying the 9/11 hijackers with a plane that could be hijacked?

Utter nonsense.
Companies that profit from oppression have nothing to be proud of.
Should Dunnes have sold South African oranges in 1984? 

Norn Irn needs jobs .
But Caterpillar ?

Reminds me of this song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlcHnp5FEdc

Saffrongael

Quote from: glens abu on October 29, 2013, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 29, 2013, 02:01:50 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on October 29, 2013, 01:11:44 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 28, 2013, 10:14:35 PM
Sinn Feins Martina Anderson is on a junket to Palestine at the minute.

At the same time as Martin McGuinness was heaping praise on Caterpillar (along with another £1 million grant, bringing to nearly £3 million they have received this year). Stating "Caterpillar is an important investor, not only in terms of jobs and wealth creation but also in the credibility its presence lends to doing business here", McGuinness forgot how Caterpillar equipment is used on a daily basis to demolish Palestinian homes by the thousands? Or maybe he forgot how their D9 Dozer killed Rachel Corrie? Or, did he forget how they sent 750 people to the dole just a year ago?

I agree with you on quite a lot of things Dixie but this is just nonsense. Caterpillar make earth moving equipment, not weapons of war. If the end user decides to drive a caterpillar over someone how can the company be held responsible. Should all the sub contractors who supply gears, engines etc etc to Caterpillar be also boycotted. This is a silly argument and you'd be better sticking to the many other sensible arguments that are out there instead of trying to win this one.

Have already been down that road with Dixie but he has his wee anti SF hat on at the minute and so blinded with hate. :-[

But you weren't, he made a couple of points about Sinn Feins words and contrastly their actions on Palestine, you weren't able to rebutt any of it.
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

glens abu

Quote from: Saffrongael on October 29, 2013, 05:02:33 PM
Quote from: glens abu on October 29, 2013, 02:11:31 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on October 29, 2013, 02:01:50 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on October 29, 2013, 01:11:44 AM
Quote from: Saffrongael on October 28, 2013, 10:14:35 PM
Sinn Feins Martina Anderson is on a junket to Palestine at the minute.

At the same time as Martin McGuinness was heaping praise on Caterpillar (along with another £1 million grant, bringing to nearly £3 million they have received this year). Stating "Caterpillar is an important investor, not only in terms of jobs and wealth creation but also in the credibility its presence lends to doing business here", McGuinness forgot how Caterpillar equipment is used on a daily basis to demolish Palestinian homes by the thousands? Or maybe he forgot how their D9 Dozer killed Rachel Corrie? Or, did he forget how they sent 750 people to the dole just a year ago?

I agree with you on quite a lot of things Dixie but this is just nonsense. Caterpillar make earth moving equipment, not weapons of war. If the end user decides to drive a caterpillar over someone how can the company be held responsible. Should all the sub contractors who supply gears, engines etc etc to Caterpillar be also boycotted. This is a silly argument and you'd be better sticking to the many other sensible arguments that are out there instead of trying to win this one.

Have already been down that road with Dixie but he has his wee anti SF hat on at the minute and so blinded with hate. :-[

But you weren't, he made a couple of points about Sinn Feins words and contrastly their actions on Palestine, you weren't able to rebutt any of it.
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Again you are talking nonsense,I am talking about the debate we had about Catapiller a few months ago,now away and check with Martin Og before you type balls.

Itchy

Seafood - I imagine you don't shop anywhere given that if you are so inclined you could link almost any business with something you find offensive. You and Dixie should get a room, obviously a morally sound room.

seafoid

Quote from: Itchy on October 29, 2013, 05:18:22 PM
Seafood - I imagine you don't shop anywhere given that if you are so inclined you could link almost any business with something you find offensive. You and Dixie should get a room, obviously a morally sound room.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz0Vef4Fu8U

Itchy

Quote from: seafoid on October 29, 2013, 05:57:31 PM
Quote from: Itchy on October 29, 2013, 05:18:22 PM
Seafood - I imagine you don't shop anywhere given that if you are so inclined you could link almost any business with something you find offensive. You and Dixie should get a room, obviously a morally sound room.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz0Vef4Fu8U

And your point is what in relation to caterpillar. May I ask what car make you drive?