Rangers FC to go into administration

Started by Lecale2, February 13, 2012, 03:43:42 PM

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Lecale2

Scottish Football Association to launch independent investigation after "new information comes to light". Wonder what it is?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17079011

LondonCamanachd

So the end of another exciting day - just to summarise:

Theres £24 million missing.
Ticketus have paid it into an account that was not Rangers.
The administrators say Whyte is helping them.
The administrators dont know there the £24 million is.
Whyte does.
Ticket us probably does.

The Administrators say the club will keep running no problem and is not at risk of Liquadation.
The club is running at a £10 million loss.
The big tax case is not even lost yet (up to £75 million)!
There is £9 million VAT to pay anyway!
Running no problem???

A]are these the most stupid administators ever?
OR
B]are these administrators just part of the Whyte plan and are getting paid very very well to look this stupid?

*Oh and just about as annoying as the clueless gimps that keep telling us we needRangers is the toothless gimps that dont actually seem to be able to ask the administrators some bloody obvious questions!

Something's rotten in the state of Primark...

muppet

Quote from: LondonCamanachd on February 17, 2012, 07:41:43 PM
So the end of another exciting day - just to summarise:

Theres £24 million missing.
Ticketus have paid it into an account that was not Rangers.
The administrators say Whyte is helping them.
The administrators dont know there the £24 million is.
Whyte does.
Ticket us probably does.

The Administrators say the club will keep running no problem and is not at risk of Liquadation.
The club is running at a £10 million loss.
The big tax case is not even lost yet (up to £75 million)!
There is £9 million VAT to pay anyway!
Running no problem???

Are these the most stupid administators ever?


Could be worse, they could order their supporters clubs to stop giving them money and disband.
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Gazzler

The taxman has taken over Ibrox & decided they're gonna rename the stadium the Inland Revenue Arena...... The IRA for short.... Although It's only provisional at the moment.

Lecale2

Quote from: Gazzler on February 17, 2012, 10:05:34 PM
The taxman has taken over Ibrox & decided they're gonna rename the stadium the Inland Revenue Arena...... The IRA for short.... Although It's only provisional at the moment.

Read the earlier posts FFS before posting.

trileacman

Quote from: Lecale2 on February 17, 2012, 10:48:17 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on February 17, 2012, 10:05:34 PM
The taxman has taken over Ibrox & decided they're gonna rename the stadium the Inland Revenue Arena...... The IRA for short.... Although It's only provisional at the moment.

Read the earlier posts FFS before posting.

Give him a break, I hadn't read all the thread. f**k that.
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LondonCamanachd

Quote from: trileacman on February 17, 2012, 11:34:33 PM
Quote from: Lecale2 on February 17, 2012, 10:48:17 PM
Quote from: Gazzler on February 17, 2012, 10:05:34 PM
The taxman has taken over Ibrox & decided they're gonna rename the stadium the Inland Revenue Arena...... The IRA for short.... Although It's only provisional at the moment.

Read the earlier posts FFS before posting.

Give him a break, I hadn't read all the thread. f**k that.

It's a great thread.  Especially the section that focuses on picking a GAA county for the Scottish boy.  That bit's far more interesting than some tax dodging, soap dodging bawbags from the Southside of Glasgow.

passedit

Rangerstaxcase hits mainstream. This is a very decent summation of events to this point. Comments are worth a read as well.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2012/feb/17/scotland-media-rangers

QuoteMy blog shows how Scotland's media were complicit in Rangers' fall

The author of the blog that has pulled down the facade at Rangers was motivated by the failings of the Scottish press

     

    Rangerstaxcase.com
    guardian.co.uk, Friday 17 February 2012 20.00 GMT
    Article history


A fan outside Rangers
The story of Rangers' insolvency is already becoming a fireside tale told mostly by those who were not there, says rangerstaxcase.com. Photograph: Andrew Milligan/PA

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds" – Samuel Adams, 1775

It is easy to feel powerless in this world. "Why bother? What can I do?" Even as a student, I did not join protest marches. While most of my generation screamed: "Can't pay! won't pay!" about the hated poll tax, I could and I did. Raging against the machine seemed like Sisyphean futility and talk of changing the world was for poets and artists. To me, practical people just got on with it and made the best of events. Cynicism was a uniform I wore with pride. Against such a background, I make an unlikely campaigner and the last person anyone would pick to give voice to a silenced and disenfranchised community.

Yet my blog, rangerstaxcase.com, seems to have done exactly that. What started as an impulse one Sunday evening in March of last year has grown into something of a Scottish cultural phenomenon. Love it or loathe it, few would dispute that this blog has played a significant role revealing the facts and shaping the debate on a subject that has taken on such importance that the UK prime minister and Scottish first minister have belatedly jumped on the bandwagon.

This monster has grown to the point where it is now fielding daily traffic of over 100,000 views, while new arguments and ideas are fuelled by reader comments that are now coming in at a rate of about 1,500 per day. These are odd statistics for discussions characterised by accounting conventions and insolvency law. It is as if all of the cool kids in the playground suddenly want to read the swots' algebra homework.

In a world of free information, where most blogs die alone and ignored shortly after birth, the very popularity of rangerstaxcase.com carries a message about modern Scotland. It is a story of the unmet need for the straight story, uncorrupted by the sinister Triangle of Trade that renders most of what passes as news in Scotland's media outlets as worthless. It is the tale of why things went so wrong at Rangers and why the club's many fans seemed paralysed by disbelief until it was too late.

If you have not spent much time in Caledonia what follows will seem a little surreal. It seems that way because it is. Scotland is a land where nothing matters like football matters – in particular within the west-central region. For over 120 years, Glasgow's two biggest football teams have engaged in one of the world's most bitter sporting feuds. With mindless tribalism masquerading as a religious divide, stabbings, live bombs sent through the post, and even murders have been woven into the tapestry of the recent history of Scottish football. Yet I still get challenged over my penchant for anonymity? Football in Scotland is not like football elsewhere - at least not in Europe. (Latin Americans might recognise the poison brought to the surface by the poultice of football, but few other places would understand).

Yet for all of its ugliness, I love it. A large part of my "two score and change" years on this planet has been devoted to supporting my team, Celtic. Actually watching the team would be a very small part of the time expended. The obsession with your team colours many other aspects of life for those unfortunates who find themselves pulled into the vortex that goes along with supporting either of the Glasgow giants.

Football clubs from places like Manchester and Liverpool can lay claim to much more success on the field, but these cities do not get close to Glasgow in terms of intensity of interest. It is this passion that serves as the growth medium for the bacillus that infects the news business in Scotland, which in turn serves as the carrier of the disease that threatens to kill Rangers.

Selling news of any kind in Glasgow has long been a simple business: sales are driven by stories about Rangers and Celtic. If you need a circulation boost to improve advertising rates, you need more and better stories about these football teams. Good news moves newsprint. Bad news sells, too, as fans wallow in the misery of their hated enemy. However, Scotland is not evenly divided between these clubs. Celtic and Rangers may attract similar attendances to home games, but the demographic reality is that there are a great many more people in Scotland who would claim to be Rangers supporters than Celtic. Religious census figures provide a decent proxy for the numbers that sustain both clubs: in 2001, less than 18% of the population of Scotland identified as being Roman Catholic. Celtic's support base is far from exclusively Catholic, but it would be a little daft to ignore the reality of family religious origin in determining which football team a young boy or girl is most likely to follow in Scotland. Rangers' demographic surplus has determined the general editorial tone of the nation's news business for decades.

During the early 1990s when Celtic had their own brush with financial mortality, newspapers sent journalists across the globe to chase down scandal related to Celtic's imminent demise. Such was the open glee in print, it is a wonder that the English language had to import the word Schadenfreude from German. The lowland Scots dialect would surely have had several words of its own to offer, but I doubt that the acronym GIRUY would have translated as readily across the globe. Celtic's travails were good for the media business. There was no shortage of Rangers supporters willing to smirk at their impoverished foes while dreaming of European Cup triumphs to come. The arrival of Celtic's saviour from Canada, the unfashionable Fergus McCann, ended the era of amateurism in the boardroom and also planted the seeds for the great divergence in the fortunes of the clubs. Few could have imagined how much could change in just two decades.

The story of Rangers' insolvency is already becoming a fireside tale told mostly by those who were not there. Trampled down in the rush of journalists claiming that "of course, I knew all along, but I just could not say anything" are all of the derisive newspaper articles and radio call-in panellists dismissing the risks Rangers were facing. I am in no doubt: Scotland's media, sports and business desks alike, are complicit in the disaster than has befallen Rangers. They killed their golden goose.

The Triangle of Trade to which I have referred is essentially an arrangement where Rangers FC and their owner provide each journalist who is "inside the tent" with a sufficient supply of transfer "exclusives" and player trivia to ensure that the hack does not have to work hard. Any Scottish journalist wishing to have a long career learns quickly not to bite the hands that feed. The rule that "demographics dictate editorial" applied regardless of original footballing sympathies.

The last vertex of this triangle is the reader – the average football fan. Fed a diet rich in sycophantic rubbish, he lost the ability to review critically what he was reading. Super-casino developments worth £700m complete with hover-pitches were still being touted to Rangers fans even after the first news of the tax case broke. Along with "Ronaldo To Sign For Rangers" nonsense, it is little wonder that the majority of the club's fans were in a state of stupefaction in recent years. They were misled by those who ran their club. They were deceived by a media pack that had to know that the stories it peddled were false.

In the end, Rangers fans sat back for years and barely raised a word of complaint as their club was abused and misused. Many of these same fans who sat on their hands have had plenty to say about the motivations of my blog. Egged on by spokesmen for those doing Rangers the most harm, it is widely believed that HMRC are feeding me information to do damage to their club. Firstly, anyone reading the blog again would see that my sources of information probably lie outside of the government. Secondly, the blog has been the only dependable source of information about the sorry state of affairs within Ibrox. By revealing what has been happening at Ibrox, I have provided Rangers fans with an opportunity to do something about it. If I was really intent on harming their club, I would have said nothing at all. That this opportunity has been squandered is something for Rangers fans to contemplate. It is in helping expose this Bermuda-triangle-for-truth that I take most pride.

Rangerstaxcase.com has become a platform for some of the sharpest minds and most accomplished professionals to share information, debate, and form opinions based upon a rational interpretation of the facts rather than PR-firm fabrications. In all of the years when the mainstream media had a monopoly on opinion forming and agenda setting, the more sentient football fan had no outlet for his or her opinions. Blogs and other modern media, like Twitter, have democratised information distribution. Rangerstaxcase.com has gone far beyond its half-baked "I know a secret" origins to become a forum for citizen journalism. The power of the crowd‑sourced investigation initiated by anyone who is able to ignite the interest of others is a force that has the potential to move mountains in our society. All that is required is an issue about which others are passionate and feel unheard.

"Why bother? What can I do?" If it is something you care about, you can do anything you want.
Don't Panic


Main Street

I'd say, over these past few days, there are tens of thousands of people scattered all around the globe, who are experiencing sporadic fits of laughter throughout the day.
One can generally accept that laughter has a healing, feel good effect, on body and mind.
In these hard times, let us be grateful for the rippling positive waves of energy that have been emanating from the morass of Rangers' chickens coming home to roost.





Main Street

Vlad, the Hearts owner, let it rip against the SFA

ROMANOV ATTACKS SFA OVER RANGERS PROBLEMS

Hearts will see a fraction of the £800,000 that they are owed from Rangers for the transfer of Lee Wallace with Romanov pointing the blame at the authorities for allowing the crisis at Ibrox to develop.
"The bankruptcy of Rangers shows again how insolently and arrogantly operate the Scottish football mafia," the Lithuanian claimed.
"They stole taxpayers' money, violating the rules of honest competition between the clubs. And for that were not even stripped of second place in the league table.
"And it was all happening while they desperately wanted to push Hearts into bankruptcy through the tax authorities and the league. They plotted conspiracies in our club and tried to spread panic.
"But in fact they needed all this just to distract attention from their own dubious activities."


Denn Forever

Romanov.

Is this the owner of Hearts where the players weren't paid over Christmas?
I have more respect for a man
that says what he means and
means what he says...

Hound

Have to laugh at the delusional comments of a section of the Celtic fanbase, that the demise of Rangers will signal Celtic's entrance into a league in England!

Main Street

Quote from: Hound on February 18, 2012, 04:20:33 PM
Have to laugh at the delusional comments of a section of the Celtic fanbase, that the demise of Rangers will signal Celtic's entrance into a league in England!

I suspect you are more bark than bite.
There's a 750+ page of discussion about the demise of Rangers on Kerrydale street,  a forum which is a good representation of the Celtic fanbase.
Can you please point out the delusional section that think this will "signal Celtic's entrance into a league in England!".

muppet

Quote from: Hound on February 18, 2012, 04:20:33 PM
Have to laugh at the delusional comments of a section of the Celtic fanbase, that the demise of Rangers will signal Celtic's entrance into a league in England!

I would had thought that their fortunes are inextricably linked. Rangers may have made a complete hash of their finances, but it will not be a good thing for Celtic in the long run. It makes sense for them to try to move south but it is unlikely to be allowed.
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