Six counties to lose 2 more players to the proper Ireland team

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Ah poor wittle nigel, no-one wants to take his calls!
Gurning aul shite. 


NI poised to lose Devine and Ferguson to Republic
Northern Ireland are set to see another two of their young players switching allegience to the Republic of Ireland.

NI boss Nigel Worthington has been informed that Preston North End defender Daniel Devine has opted to play for the Republic.

Worthington believes Shane Ferguson intends making the same move after the Newcastle United defender failed to reply to his calls.

A Fifa ruling allows N Ireland-born players to opt for the Republic.

Fifa rules include a clause allowing players to change nationality once before they play a senior competitive match if they were born "on the territory of the relevant association".

The Good Friday Agreement of 1998 provided for Northern Ireland-born people to claim either British or Irish nationality.

Darron Gibson, Shane Duffy, Marc Wilson, Daniel Kearns and Paul George have already made the move to the Republic.

There is a good production line here and to lose them is disappointing. Quote Nigel Worthington

Teenagers Devine and Ferguson, who played for the senior team in a friendly against Italy in 2009, have also represented Northern Ireland at youth level.

A disappointed Worthington wants further clarification on the eligibility ruling.

"It needs to be more black and white - to put all the indecision to bed once and for all," he said.

"It's frustrating and disappointing that a lot of time, energy, commitment and finance goes into these players over a period of years and then when they are 17, 18, 19 or even 20, there is the opportunity for them, because of the ruling, to vacate to another country.

"There is a good production line here and to lose them is disappointing.

"I've left voicemails, text messages and made random calls to Shane (Ferguson) but at no time did we get a reply."

So is the so called "Free State"          now the Proper Ireland  . This gets so confusing. What is it with people from the 6 counties (Gaoth Dobhair Abu is from Donegal so question not aimed at him) supporting the crowd they tell to "take it down from the mast Irish traitors"?

[DoireGael]

I'm sure this has been asked before but can someone from the South declare for the North?

Yes, but why would anyone want to.

I think it would be quite amusing if you were crap and could'nt get on the Ireland team to declare for the north.

[gallsman]

Ah poor wittle nigel, no-one wants to take his calls!
Gurning aul shite. 


NI poised to lose Devine and Ferguson to Republic
Northern Ireland are set to see another two of their young players switching allegience to the Republic of Ireland.

NI boss Nigel Worthington has been informed that Preston North End defender Daniel Devine has opted to play for the Republic.

Worthington believes Shane Ferguson intends making the same move after the Newcastle United defender failed to reply to his calls.

A Fifa ruling allows N Ireland-born players to opt for the Republic.

Fifa rules include a clause allowing players to change nationality once before they play a senior competitive match if they were born "on the territory of the relevant association".

The Good Friday Agreement of 1998 provided for Northern Ireland-born people to claim either British or Irish nationality.

Darron Gibson, Shane Duffy, Marc Wilson, Daniel Kearns and Paul George have already made the move to the Republic.

There is a good production line here and to lose them is disappointing. Quote Nigel Worthington

Teenagers Devine and Ferguson, who played for the senior team in a friendly against Italy in 2009, have also represented Northern Ireland at youth level.

A disappointed Worthington wants further clarification on the eligibility ruling.

"It needs to be more black and white - to put all the indecision to bed once and for all," he said.

"It's frustrating and disappointing that a lot of time, energy, commitment and finance goes into these players over a period of years and then when they are 17, 18, 19 or even 20, there is the opportunity for them, because of the ruling, to vacate to another country.

"There is a good production line here and to lose them is disappointing.

"I've left voicemails, text messages and made random calls to Shane (Ferguson) but at no time did we get a reply."

So is the so called "Free State"          now the Proper Ireland  . This gets so confusing. What is it with people from the 6 counties (Gaoth Dobhair Abu is from Donegal so question not aimed at him) supporting the crowd they tell to "take it down from the mast Irish traitors"?

While I don't care about either team and would support a 32 county Irish cricket or hockey team ahead of either of them, you appear to wish to deny people a choice as to who they mostly feel in touch with. Would you like my Irish passport back as well? If so, gimme back all the taxes I've paid.

I'm sure this has been asked before but can someone from the South declare for the North?

Yes, but why would anyone want to.

I think it would be quite amusing if you were crap and could'nt get on the Ireland team to declare for the north.

I don't really think the "strength" of the south's team is anything to be boasting about either!

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Ah poor wittle nigel, no-one wants to take his calls!
Gurning aul shite. 


NI poised to lose Devine and Ferguson to Republic
Northern Ireland are set to see another two of their young players switching allegience to the Republic of Ireland.

NI boss Nigel Worthington has been informed that Preston North End defender Daniel Devine has opted to play for the Republic.

Worthington believes Shane Ferguson intends making the same move after the Newcastle United defender failed to reply to his calls.

A Fifa ruling allows N Ireland-born players to opt for the Republic.

Fifa rules include a clause allowing players to change nationality once before they play a senior competitive match if they were born "on the territory of the relevant association".

The Good Friday Agreement of 1998 provided for Northern Ireland-born people to claim either British or Irish nationality.

Darron Gibson, Shane Duffy, Marc Wilson, Daniel Kearns and Paul George have already made the move to the Republic.

There is a good production line here and to lose them is disappointing. Quote Nigel Worthington

Teenagers Devine and Ferguson, who played for the senior team in a friendly against Italy in 2009, have also represented Northern Ireland at youth level.

A disappointed Worthington wants further clarification on the eligibility ruling.

"It needs to be more black and white - to put all the indecision to bed once and for all," he said.

"It's frustrating and disappointing that a lot of time, energy, commitment and finance goes into these players over a period of years and then when they are 17, 18, 19 or even 20, there is the opportunity for them, because of the ruling, to vacate to another country.

"There is a good production line here and to lose them is disappointing.

"I've left voicemails, text messages and made random calls to Shane (Ferguson) but at no time did we get a reply."

So is the so called "Free State"          now the Proper Ireland  . This gets so confusing. What is it with people from the 6 counties (Gaoth Dobhair Abu is from Donegal so question not aimed at him) supporting the crowd they tell to "take it down from the mast Irish traitors"?

While I don't care about either team and would support a 32 county Irish cricket or hockey team ahead of either of them, you appear to wish to deny people a choice as to who they mostly feel in touch with. Would you like my Irish passport back as well? If so, gimme back all the taxes I've paid.

I'm sure this has been asked before but can someone from the South declare for the North?

Yes, but why would anyone want to.

I think it would be quite amusing if you were crap and could'nt get on the Ireland team to declare for the north.

I don't really think the "strength" of the south's team is anything to be boasting about either!

They feel most in touch with the "Republic of Ireland" soccer team, the team that represents the same country they call "Free Staters", "Irish Traitors", "West Brits", "Mexicans" (would be a complement if we were from Mexico). Sick of  British soccer team wearing (Glasgow Celtic) idiots telling me I sold them out. Then they proceed to wear that disgusting Glasgow Celtic abomination and support the team of the"Sell Outs" (ROI soccer team).

I agree with you that an 32 county football (GAA), cricket or rugby team would be a much preferable day out to support than the Irish soccer team (either one).

[haranguerer]

I dont understand. Are they wearing the celtic gear when they tell you you sold them out, or do they start to wear it after they tell you you've sold them out?

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

I dont understand. Are they wearing the celtic gear when they tell you you sold them out, or do they start to wear it after they tell you you've sold them out?

Tends to be Glasgow Celtic types. Same ones who choose to go to that super suday shite and watch British soccer instead of Irish football, hurling, cricket, golf or rugby etc.

[haranguerer]

Sick of  British soccer team wearing (Glasgow Celtic) idiots telling me I sold them out. Then they proceed to wear that disgusting Glasgow Celtic abomination

No, but really, which is it? Its not at all clear from the above.

Also, have you considered that it may be as a direct result of your having sold them out that they are now supporting british sports and clubs, given that no doubt the british influence on this island is much greater because of britains continued presence on it?   

[fitzroyalty]

I agree with Nigel: "If you are born in the country you should be representing that country."

Can't get any more black and white than that, wonder will he be telling young Caolan Lavery to push on back to Canada?

[deiseach]

I'm sure this has been asked before but can someone from the South declare for the North?

I'm sure it's been asked before but I still don't know the answer. I think the answer is no. It's NI that is the special case, not the RoI

[Olaf]

,abuse of catholic players by their own supporters etc, but that isnt the main reason.[/b]

Players play for NI underage because thats where the system leads them, then that may follow on to the senior squad if they're good enough, but if they're good enough to attract interest from both jurisdictions, they're obviously gonna choose the team they have supported from childhood.

The emboldened part  of your first paragraph isn't happening.

The second paragraph is closer to reality.

I didnt say it was currently happening - but it has happened, (and the reaction was pretty sickening too - Jackie 'I think there were less boos that time' Fullerton) and I dont think anyone would be particularly surprised if it happened again.

1.Your post was written in the present tense.

2. I would be surprised as would anyone who attends the games.

[saffron sam2]

I'm sure this has been asked before but can someone from the South declare for the North?

I'm sure it's been asked before but I still don't know the answer. I think the answer is no. It's NI that is the special case, not the RoI

I think the possibility was certainly mooted by FIFA, but IIRC there was at best a luke warm reaction from the IFA. Can't see why in theory it shouldn't be the case.

Dan Devine has being doing a bit of yoyo-ing with his decision.

[Ulick]

I'm sure this has been asked before but can someone from the South declare for the North?

Yes, but why would anyone want to.

No they can't. FIFA offered that option before they made their final ruling but it was rejected by the IFA.

[haranguerer]

b]I didnt say it was currently happening[/b] - but it has happened, (and the reaction was pretty sickening too - Jackie 'I think there were less boos that time' Fullerton) and I dont think anyone would be particularly surprised if it happened again.

1.Your post was written in the present tense.

2. I would be surprised as would anyone who attends the games.
[/quote]

It was written in the continuous present tense. It was in the recent past, couldnt be ruled out happening again, and as such is still an important factor for anyone choosing who to play for.

Mildly surprised I would say - and no doubt very annoyed., for there are many NI fans inlc yourself I'm sure, who would abhor such behaviour. However, I think there certainly remains many of those fans who partook in above behaviour, and I doubt they have changed that much.

[Olaf]

Young nationalists are going to have to want to play for the IFA team and at the moment there is nothing there to encourage them to give their allegiance to the north. It's not enough to stop abusing players what they'll need to do afford equal respect to the Irish traditions/identity on this island. There are two ways they could do this:

• remove all British trappings such as the anthem and symbols of the discredited Stormont regime, replace them with something neutral and hope they can foster something in the future everyone can identify with
• afford equal status for Irish symbols and flags

Neither is going to be palatable for the NI soccer crowd I suspect.

In fairness, the NI soccer crowd could do everything you ask and I doubt it would make one person change his mind about who they want to play for. So why, apart from a pompous desire to 'do the right thing', should they bother?

That is my perception. Just the wrong brand of Irish for these players (as the title of the thread more bluntly  asserts) ?

[Olaf]

b]I didnt say it was currently happening[/b] - but it has happened, (and the reaction was pretty sickening too - Jackie 'I think there were less boos that time' Fullerton) and I dont think anyone would be particularly surprised if it happened again.

1.Your post was written in the present tense.

2. I would be surprised as would anyone who attends the games.

However, I think there certainly remains many of those fans who partook in above behaviour, and I doubt they have changed that much.
[/quote]

How do you come to that conclusion?

They have been given many many opportunities over the last 10 years.