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Started by red hander, April 29, 2011, 09:47:12 PM

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Tony Baloney

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 01, 2011, 05:18:09 PM
Aye, EG just makes himself look a bigger eejit every time he posts!   ;)

Curious spelling of 'faschist' for a "soi-disant genius too!  :D
You're not really from Strabane, are you?

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 01, 2011, 05:11:45 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 01, 2011, 04:52:37 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on May 01, 2011, 03:42:16 PM
As for Pinochet, whilst her friendship with him must inevitably taint her in the eyes of most Chileans, her view will have been entirely simple. That is, the UK was fighting to liberate the people of the Falklands from a hostile, Fascist military Dictator; and whilst Pinochet might himself have been dictatorial, faschist and military etc, he was never "hostile".

As opposed to the totally democratic method by which Britain land grabbed those islands in the first place of course!

this is the thing, If Ireland was a nation who grabbed islands when it was the done thing sure it would be fine, for that you'd have a problem with France, Holland, Portugal Spain and every other nation that stole land!!

The Falklands was and still is a shit hole, it suited Thatcher at the time, political  more so than economical.
Pretty much every place rich in oil and gas deposits is a shithole. They don't go there for the cocktails, it's the stuff in the ground that is important and the Falklands has plenty of it.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 01, 2011, 06:09:50 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 01, 2011, 05:18:09 PM
Aye, EG just makes himself look a bigger eejit every time he posts!   ;)

Curious spelling of 'faschist' for a "soi-disant genius too!  :D
You're not really from Strabane, are you?

Qui moi, hi sir?

Your parochialism is showing there Tony.  ;)
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Milltown Row2

Look if there was any real oil of any note it would be being drilled. That war was political.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Evil Genius

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Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 01, 2011, 04:52:37 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on May 01, 2011, 03:42:16 PM
As for Pinochet, whilst her friendship with him must inevitably taint her in the eyes of most Chileans, her view will have been entirely simple. That is, the UK was fighting to liberate the people of the Falklands from a hostile, Fascist military Dictator; and whilst Pinochet might himself have been dictatorial, faschist and military etc, he was never "hostile".

As opposed to the totally democratic method by which Britain land grabbed those islands in the first place of course!
Right.

As an Irish Republican, you demand the right to self-determination of one island people (the Irish), free of domination by its larger neighbours (UK).

But you deny the right of self-determination of another island race (Falklanders), and would instead have them dominated by their  larger neighbours (Argies)?

Still, you wouldn't be the first resident of Strabane to be confused over matters of identity, what with half your fellow townies being proudly Irish for 13 days in the fortnight, but British on Signing-On Day... :o


P.S. The Falkland Islands were completely uninhabited when people from various (mostly European) nations first settled in the mid-18th Century. And those peoples' countries made several claims upon them, except that it was the British who were by far the most committed to the islands, both by longevity of claim and numbers of settlers. You might even be related to one of the most notable:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Dickson_(Falklands)



"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

Evil Genius

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 01, 2011, 05:18:09 PM
Aye, EG just makes himself look a bigger eejit every time he posts!   ;)
That may or may not be so. But if it is, you have certainly never proven it with your interventions.

Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 01, 2011, 05:18:09 PMCurious spelling of 'faschist' for a soi-disant genius too!  :D
So that's the sum total of your evidence for my being an eejit?

Does that mean I wasn't such an eejit 11 words earlier when I used the correct spelling?

Or haven't you heard of a typo?  ::)

P.S. If you're going to insert foreign language terms into your posts, you might want to italicise them, otherwise you wouldn't want people thinking you a pretentious eejit, would you?
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

Evil Genius

Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 01, 2011, 06:12:39 PMPretty much every place rich in oil and gas deposits is a shithole.
Included in the top 20 oil-producing nations are: USA, Canada, Brazil, Norway and, ahem, the UK. Apologise at once!

Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 01, 2011, 06:12:39 PMThey don't go there for the cocktails, it's the stuff in the ground that is important and the Falklands has plenty of it.
If the Falklands had "plenty" of it, don't you think the Brits would have been pumping it out long before now?

The price is currently over $100 US per barrel, and military garrisons don't come cheap...
"If you come in here again, you'd better bring guns"
"We don't need guns"
"Yes you fuckin' do"

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Evil Genius on May 01, 2011, 07:31:09 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 01, 2011, 06:12:39 PMPretty much every place rich in oil and gas deposits is a shithole.
Included in the top 20 oil-producing nations are: USA, Canada, Brazil, Norway and, ahem, the UK. Apologise at once!

Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 01, 2011, 06:12:39 PMThey don't go there for the cocktails, it's the stuff in the ground that is important and the Falklands has plenty of it.
If the Falklands had "plenty" of it, don't you think the Brits would have been pumping it out long before now?

The price is currently over $100 US per barrel, and military garrisons don't come cheap...
Exploration in the Falklands Basin is ongoing! When it was first looked at years ago barrel prices meant it wasn't economically attractive to setup in a big way down there. I know a few fellas who were involved down there a couple of years ago when Desire got the licenses and if estimates of reserves are correct (and it's easily accessible) they'll be pumping Texas tea by 2016. Estimates are between 8 and 60 billion barrels but it all depends on how easily it can be extracted. At current prices I'd say they'll make it their business to get it out!

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Evil Genius on May 01, 2011, 07:11:34 PM
Right.

As an Irish Republican, you demand the right to self-determination of one island people (the Irish), free of domination by its larger neighbours (UK).

But you deny the right of self-determination of another island race (Falklanders), and would instead have them dominated by their  larger neighbours (Argies)?

Still, you wouldn't be the first resident of Strabane to be confused over matters of identity, what with half your fellow townies being proudly Irish for 13 days in the fortnight, but British on Signing-On Day... :o


P.S. The Falkland Islands were completely uninhabited when people from various (mostly European) nations first settled in the mid-18th Century. And those peoples' countries made several claims upon them, except that it was the British who were by far the most committed to the islands, both by longevity of claim and numbers of settlers. You might even be related to one of the most notable:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Dickson_(Falklands)

Quelle surprise, an Irish unionist defends the right of a country to travel over half way around the world to lay claim to territory they have actually no right to claim, through force of arms. Your (euphemistic) being 'most committed' is my being 'most sanguinary' in their determination to land grab.



Quote from: Evil Genius on May 01, 2011, 07:23:37 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on May 01, 2011, 05:18:09 PMCurious spelling of 'faschist' for a soi-dis
ant genius too!  :D
So that's the sum total of your evidence for my being an eejit?

Most certainly not; as intimated it's only the latest instalment of eejiticity.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

MW

Quote from: hardstation on April 29, 2011, 10:50:52 PM
Today we were unlucky, but remember we only have to be lucky once. You will have to be lucky always.

Since she hasn't been murdered by terrorists, I would say she looks like she will indeed have been "lucky always".

stephenite

Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on April 29, 2011, 11:43:46 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on April 29, 2011, 11:26:23 PM
Quote from: IolarCoisCuain on April 29, 2011, 11:15:14 PM
Quote from: mayogodhelpus@gmail.com on April 29, 2011, 11:03:17 PM
Quote from: Evil Genius on April 29, 2011, 10:42:55 PM
I'm surprised none of you guys posted something along the lines of it being "A good day to bury bad news".

Anyhow, the Blessed Margaret may die some day, but she will always live on in our hearts.  ;)

Seriously EG you can't like the woman, she was a bitch-whore-**** to everyone, not just the Irish.

Rubbish. She saved her own country from rack and ruin. One of the giants of the late twentieth century.

I know the boys in the occupied Six don't like her, never will and I can fully see and understand their point. She did Ireland no favours at all. But from the bigger perspective she is/was a colossus. What's your problem with her MGHU? I would have thought she and Fine Gael would have a lot in common.

Dung! Maybe having mass murderers over for tea is ok in your book but not in mmmine

The slag dragged up her son to become a criminal mercenary piece of shit.

That's your answer?

MW

Quote from: hardstation on May 01, 2011, 10:54:43 PM
To be fair, I wouldn't consider her current predicament as 'lucky' by any stretch.

In the context of the quote you provided (lovely that you quote a PIRA statement justifying an atrocity, BTW) - "lucky once" to them meant murdering her, "lucky always" to them meant her not being murdered by them.

Almost all of us who die naturally will, sadly, leave this life with our bodies or our minds breaking down on us.