Green Technology

Started by DrinkingHarp, January 29, 2011, 11:44:18 AM

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DrinkingHarp

How many are using green technology for their house or business?

A show on here in the states, "Real Green" , highlights products or services that promote "green" living/contributions to enhance mans existence to the planet.

One product that was featured was Solasyphon by Willis Renewable Energy Systems of Belfast.

I believe energy consumption could be cut by at least 70% if more homeowners/businesses used more green products
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Heavily involved in Green tech thru my business,its the way forward atm and big companies are investing a lot of money in it.
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Quote from: DrinkingHarp on January 29, 2011, 11:44:18 AM
How many are using green technology for their house or business?

A show on here in the states, "Real Green" , highlights products or services that promote "green" living/contributions to enhance mans existence to the planet.

One product that was featured was Solasyphon by Willis Renewable Energy Systems of Belfast.

I believe energy consumption could be cut by at least 70% if more homeowners/businesses used more green products
The payback times quoted by a lot of these companies rarely stand up to scrutiny. A super-insulated house would be a more efficient means of cutting costs imo as the vast majority of users install this kit to save money rather than thru concern for the environment.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 29, 2011, 07:21:54 PM
The payback times quoted by a lot of these companies rarely stand up to scrutiny. A super-insulated house would be a more efficient means of cutting costs imo as the vast majority of users install this kit to save money rather than thru concern for the environment.

A fair point. The (potentially massive) payback on immediate energy conservation measures like comprehensive domestic insulation are grossly understated at the minute.
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Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on January 29, 2011, 07:31:39 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 29, 2011, 07:21:54 PM
The payback times quoted by a lot of these companies rarely stand up to scrutiny. A super-insulated house would be a more efficient means of cutting costs imo as the vast majority of users install this kit to save money rather than thru concern for the environment.

A fair point. The (potentially massive) payback on immediate energy conservation measures like comprehensive domestic insulation are grossly understated at the minute.

Domestic yes maybe the payback times are exaggerated alright but some products for say lighting,heating,air conditioning on a commercial and industrial level can give a return on investment within 8 months.
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el_cuervo_fc

Has anyone out there any experience of carrying out feasibility studies for wind turbines?

I'm applying for a grant for a turbine at the minute and I'm trying to work out what sort of costs would be involved.

The main issues I can see at the minute are:

Feasibility Study
Planning
Grid Connection
Installation of Turbine

I can deal with the planning side of it myself but I wouldn't have much experience in the feasibility study side of things

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Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 02, 2012, 02:44:32 PM
Has anyone out there any experience of carrying out feasibility studies for wind turbines?

I'm applying for a grant for a turbine at the minute and I'm trying to work out what sort of costs would be involved.

The main issues I can see at the minute are:

Feasibility Study
Planning
Grid Connection
Installation of Turbine

I can deal with the planning side of it myself but I wouldn't have much experience in the feasibility study side of things

You'd need to take into account potential further information asked for by planners, reports generally have to be done by a specialist 3rd party and can run into ££££'s. Studies such as Noise Data, Shadow Flicker Reports, Photomontages and even Bat Reports can all be requested for one turbine application.

el_cuervo_fc

Quote from: GET-Direct.com on April 02, 2012, 03:20:32 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 02, 2012, 02:44:32 PM
Has anyone out there any experience of carrying out feasibility studies for wind turbines?

I'm applying for a grant for a turbine at the minute and I'm trying to work out what sort of costs would be involved.

The main issues I can see at the minute are:

Feasibility Study
Planning
Grid Connection
Installation of Turbine

I can deal with the planning side of it myself but I wouldn't have much experience in the feasibility study side of things

You'd need to take into account potential further information asked for by planners, reports generally have to be done by a specialist 3rd party and can run into ££££'s. Studies such as Noise Data, Shadow Flicker Reports, Photomontages and even Bat Reports can all be requested for one turbine application.

Cheers for that.  I would have dealt with all of these on various turbine planning applications I have dealt with.  They can definitely explode the cost of the process.

It is more the initial feasibility stage I am looking into though.  i.e. what types of data are available (eg Action Renewables Wind Maps) and what sort of information is required to satisfy the bank, what are the likely initial costs etc.

The Grants would be split into three different phases/applications anyway.  The first for feasibility, second for Planning and the third for Installation


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If it is the Rural Development Grant from DARD in the north, you will need wind monitoring - at least 12 months - and using decent kit. Most would least these on a quarterly basis, and can be £900 to £1400 per quarter.

Action Renewables windmap is a good starting point, but it is limited. There are also historic wind data online which show the prevailing wind direction in Ireland, mostly south west throughout the year.

If it is clear cut that you have a good wind speed then all you need to do is explain that there are no issues with site access, ground conditions, electrical connection, turbulence etc. Then using your manufacturers quoted output for the windspeed, do a payback analysis.