Tyrone vs Donegal NFL

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, February 25, 2007, 05:52:23 PM

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ONeill

Didn't foresee the Treanor and Penrose inclusion. Decent forward options on the bench. A possible lack of creativity perhaps? Perspiration over inspiration?
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

never kickt a ball

Dooher ends long injury nightmare 

Brian Dooher will end a nine-month injury nightmare when he makes his first NFL start of the season against Donegal at Healy Park on Saturday.
Dooher's return is one of seven changes made by manager Mickey Harte from the team that lost heavily to Cork. Ryan McMenamin returns to the defence after a four-week suspension and in attack Enda McGinley replaces the suspended Owen Mulligan. Kelvin Hughes and Declan Treanor make their debuts in midfield and attack. Hughes gets his league debut at midfield as part of a new combination alongside Peter Donnelly, the pair replacing Sean Cavanagh and Gerard Cavlan. Treanor gets the nod ahead of Colm Cavanagh in attack. Martin Penrose comes in, following a spell in the half back line.
Tyrone boss Mickey Harte told the BBC that everybody connected with the Red Hands had to hear a few "home truths" after the defeat by Cork. "When we win, we all accept responsibility and it's the same if you lose," said Harte Everybody involved, including the management, had to accept responsibility for what happened in Cork. It's not about blaming individuals. It's a collective thing." "You had to give Cork credit as well. They played much better than us and maybe to an extent, they just didn't let us play. "The last few minutes of the game was exhibition stuff by them but we would need to play a lot better against Donegal." Brian McGuigan has returned to club duty but he is unlikely to be unavailable for the county until later this month.

Tyrone: P McConnell, R McMenamin, C McGinley, M McGee, D Harte, C Gormley, D Carlin, P Donnelly, K Hughes, B Dooher, E McGinley, D Treanor, M Penrose, S O'Neill, C McCullagh.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6432827.stm

Fear ón Srath Bán

Interesting Senior selection indeed, with a few surprises. If certain players come up to the mark in this game (MH believes it's going to happen, so I won't argue) then they'll surely have arrived, and in the groove; and overdue it maybe but nonetheless welcome for all that.  A strong bench too in the circumstances. Here's hoping Seán Cav (and Brian Mc Guigan, Joe Mc Mahon, and Philly Jordan) don't dally too long in returning to the strip. Tír Eoghain abú!
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

tyroneboi

Quote from: never kickt a ball on March 08, 2007, 09:23:10 PM
Dooher ends long injury nightmare 

Brian Dooher will end a nine-month injury nightmare when he makes his first NFL start of the season against Donegal at Healy Park on Saturday.
Dooher's return is one of seven changes made by manager Mickey Harte from the team that lost heavily to Cork. Ryan McMenamin returns to the defence after a four-week suspension and in attack Enda McGinley replaces the suspended Owen Mulligan. Kelvin Hughes and Declan Treanor make their debuts in midfield and attack. Hughes gets his league debut at midfield as part of a new combination alongside Peter Donnelly, the pair replacing Sean Cavanagh and Gerard Cavlan. Treanor gets the nod ahead of Colm Cavanagh in attack. Martin Penrose comes in, following a spell in the half back line.
Tyrone boss Mickey Harte told the BBC that everybody connected with the Red Hands had to hear a few "home truths" after the defeat by Cork. "When we win, we all accept responsibility and it's the same if you lose," said Harte Everybody involved, including the management, had to accept responsibility for what happened in Cork. It's not about blaming individuals. It's a collective thing." "You had to give Cork credit as well. They played much better than us and maybe to an extent, they just didn't let us play. "The last few minutes of the game was exhibition stuff by them but we would need to play a lot better against Donegal." Brian McGuigan has returned to club duty but he is unlikely to be unavailable for the county until later this month.

Tyrone: P McConnell, R McMenamin, C McGinley, M McGee, D Harte, C Gormley, D Carlin, P Donnelly, K Hughes, B Dooher, E McGinley, D Treanor, M Penrose, S O'Neill, C McCullagh.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6432827.stm

so has the panel been cut or wat is the story? Looks to be a lot of dead wood still in the squad and even starting team. Im thinking of Colm Donnelly, Peter Donnelly and Mickey Murphy. Maybe with the U-21 game being on at the same time the panel may not be cut for definite yet
Dont know what Paul Rouse has to do to get an opportunity in the starting team would definitely be a better option than the likes of Penrose and Treanor. Maybe its interesting to note that in the 4 biggest games so far this year (McKenna Cup Final and 3 league games) he has only got 5 mins at the end. Think he can offer something different to the full forward line and can also do a good job in midfield.
Still expect a Tyrone victory in this one though it will be closer that the McKenna Cup final. Good to see Dooher back as well!

ClosetotheHarte

It doesn't seem as if there has been anybody cut from the Senior panel yet - as you say tyroneboi that's probably because there are six or seven players involved with the Under-21s, unless some of those aren't going to be going back to join the Seniors when the Under-21s are finished.
Apart from the Under-21s, others missing from the Seniors this weekend are Mugsy, Joe McMahon, McGuigan and Jordan, plus Gourley and Holmes (assuming these two are still considered as panelists throughout their injuries). The Manager is definitely keeping the door open to players for as long as possible this year. There must be over 40 still involved some way with the squad.
Saturday is the big chance for Kelvin Hughes and Declan Treanor plus Peter Donnelly and Martin Penrose are getting another chance in different positions this time. Funny seeing Treanor in the half forwards and his club mate Cavlan on the bench.
We're going to miss Mulgrew on Saturday - but hopefully he'll be leading the Under21s to victory.
Fingers crossed that Dooher is ready for a big year from Saturday on. We still need him and he's just what we need now to help make sure there is no repeat of the poor display in Cork. I think that game will be put behind us on Sat but Donegal aren't going to lie down like they did in the 2nd half of the Mckenna Final, that's guaranteed.

tyroneman

Jaysus, this is one of those times when ye really need to put faith in MH.

Peter Donnelly should have got the road last year - I think it's only the recent write ups for the poly that has got him in.

Penrose has done NOTHING for Tyrone since he made the senior panel - NOTHING

Cavo on the bench - MH obviously wants options to help if things don't go to plan, but Enda at CHF - ball winner yes, competitor, yes, playmaker NO NO NO

loughshore lad

Serious reservations about our midfield parining on Saturday night. Donegal are very good in this area regardless of what pairing from Gallagher, Cassidy or Monaghan plays I fear they will be much too physically strong for the pairing Tyrone have selected. Would love to be proved wrong though.
The forward line doesnt look very potent either although there are a few good options on the bench.
This game will be very interesting, I dont think there is as much between the teams as the McKenna cup final scoreline suggests. Knowing Brian McIver he will have his homework done on Tyrone and the Donegal lads bouncing off the walls for this one - I just hope we can sneak a victory.

recall06

Yes some fellas have been dropped from Mickeys Panel. Ciaran McRory, Paul McGurk, Chris Colhoun and Daisy McDermott. Heard big Sean turned up to trainin last nite in an Air Cast. It's some sort of cast to protect his foot for a while. McGee still a slight Doubt for sat even though he's down to start.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Yeah, midfield would appear to be a particular worry here, but if MH has faith that Peter Donnelly is going to step up to the Senior plate, and exhibit some of the great qualities he so regularly displayed as an U21, then I'll give him the benefit of that doubt at this point and hold counsel (what MH sees in training has to inform his judgement).  And contrary to what some of us thought about Peter Donnelly against Cork, I think he actually did OK -- stopped a lot of ball reaching their full forwards for the short time he was on with some great high-fielding (not that that was particularly evident from the final score, but it could have been so much worse) -- if only he could up and maintain is workrate...

Kelvin Hughes deserves his chance, and again, this is his big opportunity, a do or die on the county scene since Donegal is the team to extract maximum from any aspirant.
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

nrico2006

As Tyrone man said, Donnelly should have got the road a long time ago.  This has to be his last chance, hes been given enough and has not shown anything!
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

realredhandfan

I agree with all, this is a strong  opportunity for some and a last opportunity maybe for others.  However we are criticising the changes before the game starts many of whom were not playing against Cork and yet we were not calling time on their careers.  Its still March and to say this is Kelvins one and only chance is a little unfortunate.  I admit pressure is high and its a big chance for him, but surely hes entitled to the same slack afforded to Mellon, Penrose, C Mc ginley, Mc gee, Donnelly and even legends like Cavanagh etc who took over a year to settle into the panel.  Im looking forward to the game but a little worried about our half forward line and again our no 3.  Im disappointed Mc ginn didnt make the starting 15 for the under 21s, but thats some panel of talent.  lets hope they deliver and the conveyor belt keeps turning.  i for one will be watching the full forward line, full back and the midfield of the under 21s for to see potential senior stuff inthe next 12 months.   

nrico2006

Agree with realredhand fans concern over no.3, definite concern.  Cormac McGinley is a good player but really lacks pace.  Hopefully Joe Mc Mahon returns there when he returns to fitness.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

J70

Same again, with the exception of Karl Lacey returning in place of Thomas Donoghue.


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tyroneman

Quote[Yes some fellas have been dropped from Mickeys Panel. Ciaran McRory, Paul McGurk, Chris Colhoun and Daisy McDermott/quote]

Daisy is listed among the subs for tomorrow so which is it? Dropped or still in?

Big doubts around McGinley. He has been gettign roastings recently and can't see him doing any better tomorrow.

Peter Donnelly has had anough chances on the senior panel. Last year should have been enough for him.

SON could be the man to step up tomorrow. He has been very quiet since his return and revels when the pressure is on him.

Anyhow - bring it on.

Gaoth Dobhair Abu

Jezuz lads are youse soooooo worried???!!!!

Dún na all to win by two points.

Tír Connaill Abú.
Tbc....