Big Joe speaks

[Dougal]

The keeper leads with his knee and makes contact with Joes upper back/neck area.
If it happened out the field it would be a definite free.

im not 100% on the rules,but if getting hit after diving onto the ground and into the path of another player is a penalty then i'll agree with you and joe that it was a penalty.

[pintsofguinness]

So you think he fouled him too?

No, I see innocent Joe dive at the line and then when he finds himself sitting in the net he throws the ball up in the air and swings a leg at it.

So the keeper didn't touch him then?

There was contact but no foul. If anything, Joe was charging, if you could call diving through the air charging.

I certainly don't see anyone pushing him over the line.

[Jinxy]

So you think he fouled him too?

No, I see innocent Joe dive at the line and then when he finds himself sitting in the net he throws the ball up in the air and swings a leg at it.

So the keeper didn't touch him then?

There was contact but no foul. If anything, Joe was charging, if you could call diving through the air charging.

I certainly don't see anyone pushing him over the line.

How can you lead with the knee, make enough contact to spin the player and it's no foul?

[pintsofguinness]

So you think he fouled him too?

No, I see innocent Joe dive at the line and then when he finds himself sitting in the net he throws the ball up in the air and swings a leg at it.

So the keeper didn't touch him then?

There was contact but no foul. If anything, Joe was charging, if you could call diving through the air charging.

I certainly don't see anyone pushing him over the line.

How can you lead with the knee, make enough contact to spin the player and it's no foul?

I don't see anything like that.

[Jinxy]

00:18 in that clip.

[pintsofguinness]

00:17 in that clip.

Don't see it.

[Logan]

Anyone who compares what Joe Sheridan did to what Thierry Henry did has no credibility.

Jinxy I have sympathy for Joe Sheridan, but I disagree with you.

I see no real difference between the two.
Both chanced their arm and both got away with it.
Personally I don't think either have anything to answer for - but there's no difference Jinxy

I think Joe is foolish to give an interview - in fact when I saw it this morning my first reaction was what was the Tribune doing running a month old story?

He'd have been better say nothing.

Also, dragging this on does Louth more harm than good and more harm to Louth then to Meath.

[Jinxy]

Just watch the keeper and Joe.
The question is, did the keeper make contact with Joe?
Answer: Yes.
Was the contact made via his knee?
Answer: Yes.
Was this a foul?
Answer: Seen them given, seen them not.

The point is this.
People are accusing Joe of being either stupid or a liar to suggest he was fouled and would have gotten a penalty.
The ref thought he was fouled.
He thought he was fouled.
I think he was fouled (in strict technical terms).
So maybe people should lay off him.

[Jinxy]

Anyone who compares what Joe Sheridan did to what Thierry Henry did has no credibility.

Jinxy I have sympathy for Joe Sheridan, but I disagree with you.

I see no real difference between the two.
Both chanced their arm and both got away with it.
Personally I don't think either have anything to answer for - but there's no difference Jinxy

I think Joe is foolish to give an interview - in fact when I saw it this morning my first reaction was what was the Tribune doing running a month old story?

He'd have been better say nothing.

Also, dragging this on does Louth more harm than good and more harm to Louth then to Meath.

How did Joe chance his arm?
I'm serious here because a lot of people were swept along by the emotion of it all and have yet to actually explain what he did wrong.

[Logan]

Jinxy, come on.
I'm actually on your side here.

He threw the ball into the net.
He knew he was taking a chance.
Authorities did nothing about it.
He got away with it.
Game over.

Henry did the same and both Ireland and Louth better get over it.

There's no more to it.

[pintsofguinness]

Just watch the keeper and Joe.
The question is, did the keeper make contact with Joe?
Answer: Yes.
Was the contact made via his knee?
Answer: Yes.
Was this a foul?
Answer: Seen them given, seen them not.

The point is this.
People are accusing Joe of being either stupid or a liar to suggest he was fouled and would have gotten a penalty.
The ref thought he was fouled.
He thought he was fouled.
I think he was fouled (in strict technical terms).
So maybe people should lay off him.

I dont see any foul, apart from his.
But he says he was pushed over the line, where's the push?

[Jinxy]

Jinxy, come on.
I'm actually on your side here.

He threw the ball into the net.
He knew he was taking a chance.
Authorities did nothing about it.
He got away with it.
Game over.

Henry did the same and both Ireland and Louth better get over it.

There's no more to it.

No he didn't.
He was over the line at that stage.
Plus he tried to kick it.
Technically he undoubtedly fouled the ball but he thought the fact that he was 'pushed' over the line made it a legit goal.
The fact that he feels he was fouled made him dig his heels in.
To compare what he did to Thierry Henry reaching out and deliberately touching the ball twice with his hand before crossing it is very unfair.

[Jinxy]

Just watch the keeper and Joe.
The question is, did the keeper make contact with Joe?
Answer: Yes.
Was the contact made via his knee?
Answer: Yes.
Was this a foul?
Answer: Seen them given, seen them not.

The point is this.
People are accusing Joe of being either stupid or a liar to suggest he was fouled and would have gotten a penalty.
The ref thought he was fouled.
He thought he was fouled.
I think he was fouled (in strict technical terms).
So maybe people should lay off him.

I dont see any foul, apart from his.
But he says he was pushed over the line, where's the push?

You can't see the goalkeeper or his knee so what's the point! 

[DuffleKing]

Surprised this hasn't arisen by now in respect to this debate but the rules only state that the ball must be "played" over the line. What "played" means is open to interpretation. Is carrying the ball "playing" it? If a goalkeeper steps over the line (carries) then it is a goal.

Are we certain that carrying the ball over the line is not a goal?

[Main Street]

Just watch the keeper and Joe.
The question is, did the keeper make contact with Joe?
Answer: Yes.
Was the contact made via his knee?
Answer: Yes.
Was this a foul?
Answer: Seen them given, seen them not.

The point is this.
People are accusing Joe of being either stupid or a liar to suggest he was fouled and would have gotten a penalty.
The ref thought he was fouled.
He thought he was fouled.
I think he was fouled (in strict technical terms).
So maybe people should lay off him.

I dont see any foul, apart from his.
But he says he was pushed over the line, where's the push?

You can't see the goalkeeper or his knee so what's the point! 

The best angle is from the camera behind the goal.

The goalkeeper more turns his arse into Joe, to prevent him from crossing the line with the ball.
If the goalie wasn't there, Joe would have surely crossed the line with the ball, just the same.
A penalty in that mayhem would have been just a slightly less worse decision than awarding the goal.
Because Sludden says he would have awarded a penalty at that moment in the game actually has no value with hindsight. I don't think Sludden thought it was a penalty afterwards.
Just learn to accept it, there were no winners from that game, both teams lost.