Battle of the Boyne - Meath Vs Louth - Leinster Final 11/7/2010

[demusicman]

Hardy - do me a favour and point out what I posted that was not a fact. The only opinion I posted was that Sheridan was a cheat. Jinxy - if the Cunningham point was wide he certainly didn't do it intentionally. Wasn't that the year meaths finest stoned cavan fans returning from croke. Real sporting boys alright.

http://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2010/07/14/3998585-honest-joe--just-doing-what-any-forward-would-says-dad/

Honest Joe just doing what any forward would, says Dad
by Paul Fitzpatrick ANGLO CELT
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While the eyes of the sporting public - and beyond - have been fixed on the saga involving the unsavoury denouement to last Sunday's Leinster final between Louth and Meath, few have spared a thought for one of the men at the centre of the controversy, Joe Sheridan, a footballer with strong roots in Cavan.

The Senechalstown man carried the ball across the goal-line in the dying seconds of the final, denying Louth a first Leinster title in 53 years and has been harshly labelled as a 'cheat' in some quarters, a label Sheridan's father Damien, a native of Maghera, took issue with this week.

"Joe is the most honest player you will see, he has been fouled and taken a lot of abuse over the years and has never reacted to any of it in any shape or form. The ball was loose and he just reacted as any forward would, it was the last play of the match... No forward is going to stop and ask the ref should he play the ball. The word 'cheat' has been mentioned and there is no place for that at all.

"From Joe's point of view, the ball was there, two backs palmed it down to him and he grabbed it, he did swing a kick because he didn't know if he was even over the line or not.

"I've been involved in football for 40 years and there are loads of incidents like these. These things happen, every team has to get on with it."

Sheridan pointed out that the incident took place in the fifth minute of injury time when only three minutes of injury time had been signalled. It is thought that referee Martin Sludden played the additional time due to Louth's time wasting in injury time.

"Joe is a laid-back character and it takes a lot to get him annoyed but I'd say deep down it's bothering him a bit," said Damien. "He just plays the game and whether he wins Man of The Match or anything else, once it's over, it's over," he added.

Damien, who was a member of the last Cavan team to win an Ulster minor title in 1974, is a hugely popular figure in his native parish and a respected coach in Meath.

His father Eamon was chairman of the Breffni Minor Board, incidentally, on the year of that great win of 1974.

He roundly condemned the scenes witnessed at the end of the match, when referee Martin Sludden was jostled and had to be escorted from the field,

"The human condition is to err, nobody is perfect but no human being should have to put up with being accosted or assaulted on the pitch after a match," stated Sheridan, who condemned the alleged assault on Meath legend Sean Boylan and also mentioned an alleged assault on a 75-year-old Meath supporter.

Meath county board met last Monday night and discussed the matter of a replay after calls from Louth officials and manager Peter Fitzpatrick.

It's unfair, argued Sheridan, that Meath are being asked to make a decision in such a tricky case in which they themselves are involved

MYLES
Thought you be a pro Joe Sheridan man shor isnt he one of your county men

[Jinxy]

Hardy - do me a favour and point out what I posted that was not a fact. The only opinion I posted was that Sheridan was a cheat. Jinxy - if the Cunningham point was wide he certainly didn't do it intentionally. Wasn't that the year meaths finest stoned cavan fans returning from croke. Real sporting boys alright.

More whataboutery!

[mylestheslasher]

Hardy - do me a favour and point out what I posted that was not a fact. The only opinion I posted was that Sheridan was a cheat. Jinxy - if the Cunningham point was wide he certainly didn't do it intentionally. Wasn't that the year meaths finest stoned cavan fans returning from croke. Real sporting boys alright.

Honest Joe just doing what any forward would, says Dad
by Paul Fitzpatrick ANGLO CELT
Comments (0) |  Print |  Email

While the eyes of the sporting public - and beyond - have been fixed on the saga involving the unsavoury denouement to last Sunday's Leinster final between Louth and Meath, few have spared a thought for one of the men at the centre of the controversy, Joe Sheridan, a footballer with strong roots in Cavan.

The Senechalstown man carried the ball across the goal-line in the dying seconds of the final, denying Louth a first Leinster title in 53 years and has been harshly labelled as a 'cheat' in some quarters, a label Sheridan's father Damien, a native of Maghera, took issue with this week.

"Joe is the most honest player you will see, he has been fouled and taken a lot of abuse over the years and has never reacted to any of it in any shape or form. The ball was loose and he just reacted as any forward would, it was the last play of the match... No forward is going to stop and ask the ref should he play the ball. The word 'cheat' has been mentioned and there is no place for that at all.

"From Joe's point of view, the ball was there, two backs palmed it down to him and he grabbed it, he did swing a kick because he didn't know if he was even over the line or not.

"I've been involved in football for 40 years and there are loads of incidents like these. These things happen, every team has to get on with it."

Sheridan pointed out that the incident took place in the fifth minute of injury time when only three minutes of injury time had been signalled. It is thought that referee Martin Sludden played the additional time due to Louth's time wasting in injury time.

"Joe is a laid-back character and it takes a lot to get him annoyed but I'd say deep down it's bothering him a bit," said Damien. "He just plays the game and whether he wins Man of The Match or anything else, once it's over, it's over," he added.

Damien, who was a member of the last Cavan team to win an Ulster minor title in 1974, is a hugely popular figure in his native parish and a respected coach in Meath.

His father Eamon was chairman of the Breffni Minor Board, incidentally, on the year of that great win of 1974.

He roundly condemned the scenes witnessed at the end of the match, when referee Martin Sludden was jostled and had to be escorted from the field,

"The human condition is to err, nobody is perfect but no human being should have to put up with being accosted or assaulted on the pitch after a match," stated Sheridan, who condemned the alleged assault on Meath legend Sean Boylan and also mentioned an alleged assault on a 75-year-old Meath supporter.

Meath county board met last Monday night and discussed the matter of a replay after calls from Louth officials and manager Peter Fitzpatrick.

It's unfair, argued Sheridan, that Meath are being asked to make a decision in such a tricky case in which they themselves are involved

MYLES
Thought you be a pro Joe Sheridan man shor isnt he one of your county men

You thought wrong. I don't care where he or his dad are from.

[mylestheslasher]

Hardy - do me a favour and point out what I posted that was not a fact. The only opinion I posted was that Sheridan was a cheat. Jinxy - if the Cunningham point was wide he certainly didn't do it intentionally. Wasn't that the year meaths finest stoned cavan fans returning from croke. Real sporting boys alright.

More whataboutery!

If you are going to use a term you should really understand what it means. By bringing Cunningham into it you were the one who started whataboutery

[demusicman]

Frances Blacks Song-----ALL THE LIES THAT YOU TOLD ME comes to mind at the moment.
I wonder why?

[Hound]

So on the Sunday Game last week yer man Kevin McStay brought up the graphic to say that it is a foul to 'carry the ball over the line', and that it must be 'played' and thats fair enough. But whats the rule here in this video I found. Is this allowed?? The incident Im referring to happens around the 0.50 mark in this video. Laois lad has the ball in hand, Derry lad hits him a wee shoulder, he crosses the line, and this was given a goal. Should this have been dissallowed no?? Listen to the commentater too at that time, he clearly says hes bundled over the line.

Sorry, forgot to post the link in!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsUJMdxq4Ac

Defender/keeper carries the ball over the line = goal
Attacker carries ball over the line = kick out

Them's the rules

[Jinxy]

Hardy - do me a favour and point out what I posted that was not a fact. The only opinion I posted was that Sheridan was a cheat. Jinxy - if the Cunningham point was wide he certainly didn't do it intentionally. Wasn't that the year meaths finest stoned cavan fans returning from croke. Real sporting boys alright.

More whataboutery!

If you are going to use a term you should really understand what it means. By bringing Cunningham into it you were the one who started whataboutery

Do you not think it's a valid comparison?
Neither score was legit.
Should Cavan have offered a replay, YES or NO?
A one word answer is all that's required Myles. 

[Hardy]

Should be easy for a man who only deals in facts.

[Hardy]

Hardy - do me a favour and point out what I posted that was not a fact. The only opinion I posted was that Sheridan was a cheat.

I have a better idea - I won't. 

Analyse your posts for yourself if you're so bothered about what I think about you and see if you're comfortable with them as positive, constructive, dispassionate comment.

Better still, forget about them. I have. Root out some video of a Cavan win, put it on and enjoy it. That "enjoy" word is what the sport is supposed to be about and I promise you it's much more fulfilling than looking for opportunities to condemn people you've never met.

[mylestheslasher]

Hardy - do me a favour and point out what I posted that was not a fact. The only opinion I posted was that Sheridan was a cheat. Jinxy - if the Cunningham point was wide he certainly didn't do it intentionally. Wasn't that the year meaths finest stoned cavan fans returning from croke. Real sporting boys alright.

More whataboutery!

If you are going to use a term you should really understand what it means. By bringing Cunningham into it you were the one who started whataboutery

Do you not think it's a valid comparison?
Neither score was legit.
Should Cavan have offered a replay, YES or NO?
A one word answer is all that's required Myles. 

No

[mylestheslasher]

Hardy - do me a favour and point out what I posted that was not a fact. The only opinion I posted was that Sheridan was a cheat.

I have a better idea - I won't. 

Analyse your posts for yourself if you're so bothered about what I think about you and see if you're comfortable with them as positive, constructive, dispassionate comment.

Better still, forget about them. I have. Root out some video of a Cavan win, put it on and enjoy it. That "enjoy" word is what the sport is supposed to be about and I promise you it's much more fulfilling than looking for opportunities to condemn people you've never met.

Not "Won't" Hardy, "Can't"

I'm sure the Louth people in Croke park enjoyed your teams robbery of their Leinster title. Sure you keep telling yourself all is well and in time you'll start to believe yourself.

btw - I condemn peoples actions, doesn't matter whether I met them or not. Do you have to meet people before you offer an opinion on them.

[Hardy]

As I said - you work things out in whatever way makes you happy, but don't keep coming back to me for approval. Choose to celebrate the positive, enjoy the games, look for the affirmative or choose to wallow in self-righteousness and sanctimony, condemn people and call them names. Either way, don't bother me about it.

[sandwiches_in_the_boot]

Has anyone brought up the fact that Sludden was given a 85% rating for his performance on Sunday?
As far as I understand the new system involves a panel of 4 grading each referee's performance in the championship. 85% = a "very good" rating, just 5% shy of "excellent".

He'll be back boys, indeed he will be back the same boyo.

[fearglasmor]

Has anyone brought up the fact Croke Park gave Sludden 85% rating for his performance on Sunday?
As far as I understand the new system involves a panel of 4 grading each referee's performance in the championship. 85% = a "very good" rating, just 5% shy of "excellent".

He'll be back boys, indeed he will be back the same boyo.

Where did you read this ?

Is it not the referees board who do the assessments anyway ?

[sandwiches_in_the_boot]

Has anyone brought up the fact Croke Park gave Sludden 85% rating for his performance on Sunday?
As far as I understand the new system involves a panel of 4 grading each referee's performance in the championship. 85% = a "very good" rating, just 5% shy of "excellent".

He'll be back boys, indeed he will be back the same boyo.

Where did you read this ?

Is it not the referees board who do the assessments anyway ?

Was in today's GL. Well your probably right enough, isn't strictly accurate to say Croke Park. The four A-grade assessors are Mick McGrath, Brian Crowe, Frank McDonald and Michael Hughes.

Still, shocking enough. Shows how bad referees make it to the top.