Get ready to wave them flegs - Lily Windsor's coming

[DoireGael]

http://www.hotpress.com/politics/frontlines/7901992.html

Worth a read 

[ballinaman]

Anyone see the kicking bishop brennan up the arse/ queen planting the tree with McAleese picture yet?? Only saw it on facebook, don't know how to insert here!

[thebigfella]

http://www.hotpress.com/politics/frontlines/7901992.html

Worth a read 

Pure dung, once he played the hunger strikers card I wanted to punch him in the face.

[Evil Genius]

The comments page on RTE.ie is embarrassing.

"Finally we will be seen as a civilised respectable nation"    

I know.

Yiz have a loooooooooooooog way to go before reaching that stage...

[ziggysego]

The comments page on RTE.ie is embarrassing.

"Finally we will be seen as a civilised respectable nation"    

I know.

Yiz have a loooooooooooooog way to go before reaching that stage...

[Nally Stand]

http://www.hotpress.com/politics/frontlines/7901992.html

Worth a read 

Read that alright. Fair play to him.

[Evil Genius]

Irishmen & Woman standing with/kissing the ass of the British Queen, with the British National Anthem playing, in a garden of Remembrance for those who died in the unfinished struggle for Independence. HOW MATURE ARE WE!!!? Can't help but think of the Patriots who must be turning in their graves.

So no following the lead of eg Mustafa Kermal Ataturk, President of Turkey, who composed this memorial to the dead Anzac and UK* soldiers who fell at Gallipoli, whilst trying to invade his country:



"Those heroes that shed their blood And lost their lives...
You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country.
Therefore, rest in peace.
There is no difference between the Johnnies
And the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side,
Here in this country of ours.
You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries...
Wipe away your tears.
Your sons are now lying in our bosom And are in peace.
After having lost their lives on this land, they have
Become our sons as well"

(Btw, Ataturk wrote those words in 1934 i.e less than 20 years after the conflict)


* - Including very many Irishmen, btw:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8584514.stm

[Ulick]

Bertie grovelling and bowing to large property owner, plus ça change,

[Evil Genius]

Still don't know what all the fuss is about...she has been visiting Ireland for years.  Coleraine, Belfast etc., are all Irish towns and cities.  Indeed Belfast is the second biggest.

Aye, but as an Australian, you must be used to people greeting her with grace and courtesy etc:

[Nally Stand]

The Garden of Remembrance supposedly commemorates all those who fought for a 32 County Independent Republic. That has yet to be achieved. Hence having the British Head of State laying a wreath an having the British National Anthem played there is simply hypocritical.

[Evil Genius]

But that was as Monarch of "her territory" [NI]

No need for the quotation marks, thanks very much.

... as she would have it

I think you'll find the rest of the world has NI down as being part of the UK:
www.un.org

... visiting her "subjects".

Your information, like your views, are years out of date.
My Passport has me down as a "British Citizen", just like nearly 60 million other Brits:

(Not mine btw)

[Jim_Murphy_74]

The Garden of Remembrance supposedly commemorates all those who fought for a 32 County Independent Republic. That has yet to be achieved. Hence having the British Head of State laying a wreath an having the British National Anthem played there is simply hypocritical.

The plaque up there says: "all those who gave their lives in the cause of Irish Freedom".....the 32 County Republic is one view of that.

Of course one has to point out that a British monarch laying a wreath their is acknowledging the validity of their cause, no doubt a big thing in itself. 

/Jim.

[Evil Genius]

The Garden of Remembrance supposedly commemorates all those who fought for a 32 County Independent Republic. That has yet to be achieved. Hence having the British Head of State laying a wreath an having the British National Anthem played there is simply hypocritical.

The plaque up there says: "all those who gave their lives in the cause of Irish Freedom".....the 32 County Republic is one view of that.

Of course one has to point out that a British monarch laying a wreath their is acknowledging the validity of their cause, no doubt a big thing in itself. 

/Jim.

Aye, but you must know by now, Jim, some people only ever see one* side of the story...


* - Their own, naturally 

[Eamonnca1]

Saw a good photo on the BBC, one of the anti-British protesters being pushed back was wearing a Man U jersey! 

[Nally Stand]

The Garden of Remembrance supposedly commemorates all those who fought for a 32 County Independent Republic. That has yet to be achieved. Hence having the British Head of State laying a wreath an having the British National Anthem played there is simply hypocritical.

The plaque up there says: "all those who gave their lives in the cause of Irish Freedom".....the 32 County Republic is one view of that.

Of course one has to point out that a British monarch laying a wreath their is acknowledging the validity of their cause, no doubt a big thing in itself. 

/Jim.

So we can expect her to acknowledge the validity of the IRA of the past 30 years too? Or was only some of those who took up arms for freedom allowed to be termed "valid"? And are you telling me that those who died for "Irish Freedom" (to quote the plaque) were fighting with a view to some sort of Irish Freedom which wasn't All-Ireland Independence?