USFC Final 2010, Clones, Sunday 18th July: Tír Eoghain vs Muineachán

Started by Fear ón Srath Bán, June 20, 2010, 05:15:16 PM

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ONeill

Monaghan to win, 1-13 to 0-11. (HT 1-7 to 0-7)

Freeman 1-3, Finlay 0-5, Dick 0-2, AN Other 0-2, Corey 0-1
Penrose 0-4, O'Neill 0-2, Mugsy 0-1, Hub 0-1, Cavanagh S, 0-1, P Harte 0-1, Joe McMahon 0-1

2 red cards - Gormley and B McGuigan.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

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ardchieftain

Couldn't have put it better myself Armaghniac.

Really looking forward to this game. It should be quite the tussle.

GrandMasterFlash

Quote from: Fuzzman on July 01, 2010, 11:20:09 PM
Remember the start they got in 2005 was it in Croker with us needing great goals from M&C to take control in the second half

Are you joking? Your boys can't even remember the 2010 NFL, never mind the halcyon days of 2005!  ::)

GrandMasterFlash

Quote from: ONeill on July 02, 2010, 12:34:13 AM
Monaghan to win, 1-13 to 0-11. (HT 1-7 to 0-7)

Freeman 1-3, Finlay 0-5, Dick 0-2, AN Other 0-2, Corey 0-1
Penrose 0-4, O'Neill 0-2, Mugsy 0-1, Hub 0-1, Cavanagh S, 0-1, P Harte 0-1, Joe McMahon 0-1

2 red cards - Gormley and B McGuigan.

Arse boxin...  ;)


ONeill

Arse-boxin aside, Monaghan have been mightily impressive this year. They dismantled Armagh like no other side in recent years (prob a decade) and treated Fermanagh like pesky irritants. It was like the Tyrone of 2003. Monaghan seem to be in the zone - a team hell bent of securing the legacy of this side with an Ulster title and they'll trample over anything that gets in their way. If Tyrone fall the same way as Armagh and Fermanagh then they deserve all the plaudits that'll come their way, especially after the abuse that befell them v Derry in 2009. How much of that is down to Grimley I don't know but last year Monaghan looked like a team that'd emptied the tank this last 3-4 years.

However, Tyrone are in a position that is rather advantageous. No matter what the bookies say (they'll have Tyrone odds-on) the majority of pundits and general public will fancy Monaghan to take this one. Tyrone haven't really put together a good half this year whilst Monaghan are blitzing sides. Sean Cavanagh was in the paper last week talking about 'this great Monaghan side' that everyone is going on about and how they're up against it. The pressure really is on Monaghan now. Can they deliver? Against Kerry twice and Tyrone twice in the last five years they had the chance to announce their arrival as a genuine heavyweight but fell short. It's now or never in terms of winning an Anglo-Celt for the first time in nearly a quarter of a century.

Tyrone on the other hand don't really have much pressure on them. They've loosely talked about winning back-to-back Ulsters but not with much conviction in terms of it being an all-consuming goal. For the first time in Mickey's reign, Tyrone can approach a championship game knowing that win or lose, they're still on course - a loss will only be a slight blip and maybe a welcome extra game before the quarters. No one would begrudge Monaghan an Ulster title. Have they the knackers to grasp it?

Incidentally, I've heard people claim that this is a Monaghan outfit who know this is their last big push - how many of that side are 28-32?
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

ONeill

I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

nrico2006

Quote from: ONeill on July 02, 2010, 10:37:25 AM
Arse-boxin aside, Monaghan have been mightily impressive this year. They dismantled Armagh like no other side in recent years (prob a decade) and treated Fermanagh like pesky irritants. It was like the Tyrone of 2003. Monaghan seem to be in the zone - a team hell bent of securing the legacy of this side with an Ulster title and they'll trample over anything that gets in their way. If Tyrone fall the same way as Armagh and Fermanagh then they deserve all the plaudits that'll come their way, especially after the abuse that befell them v Derry in 2009. How much of that is down to Grimley I don't know but last year Monaghan looked like a team that'd emptied the tank this last 3-4 years.

However, Tyrone are in a position that is rather advantageous. No matter what the bookies say (they'll have Tyrone odds-on) the majority of pundits and general public will fancy Monaghan to take this one. Tyrone haven't really put together a good half this year whilst Monaghan are blitzing sides. Sean Cavanagh was in the paper last week talking about 'this great Monaghan side' that everyone is going on about and how they're up against it. The pressure really is on Monaghan now. Can they deliver? Against Kerry twice and Tyrone twice in the last five years they had the chance to announce their arrival as a genuine heavyweight but fell short. It's now or never in terms of winning an Anglo-Celt for the first time in nearly a quarter of a century.

Tyrone on the other hand don't really have much pressure on them. They've loosely talked about winning back-to-back Ulsters but not with much conviction in terms of it being an all-consuming goal. For the first time in Mickey's reign, Tyrone can approach a championship game knowing that win or lose, they're still on course - a loss will only be a slight blip and maybe a welcome extra game before the quarters. No one would begrudge Monaghan an Ulster title. Have they the knackers to grasp it?

Incidentally, I've heard people claim that this is a Monaghan outfit who know this is their last big push - how many of that side are 28-32?

Good post, and regarding the reference to Tyrone potentially going into the qualifiers I think that a defeat against Monaghan would actually do more good for Tyrone this season in the long run, not that I will be hoping they lose come Ulster Final day.
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GrandMasterFlash

Quote from: nrico2006 on July 02, 2010, 11:01:54 AM
Quote from: ONeill on July 02, 2010, 10:37:25 AM
Arse-boxin aside, Monaghan have been mightily impressive this year. They dismantled Armagh like no other side in recent years (prob a decade) and treated Fermanagh like pesky irritants. It was like the Tyrone of 2003. Monaghan seem to be in the zone - a team hell bent of securing the legacy of this side with an Ulster title and they'll trample over anything that gets in their way. If Tyrone fall the same way as Armagh and Fermanagh then they deserve all the plaudits that'll come their way, especially after the abuse that befell them v Derry in 2009. How much of that is down to Grimley I don't know but last year Monaghan looked like a team that'd emptied the tank this last 3-4 years.

However, Tyrone are in a position that is rather advantageous. No matter what the bookies say (they'll have Tyrone odds-on) the majority of pundits and general public will fancy Monaghan to take this one. Tyrone haven't really put together a good half this year whilst Monaghan are blitzing sides. Sean Cavanagh was in the paper last week talking about 'this great Monaghan side' that everyone is going on about and how they're up against it. The pressure really is on Monaghan now. Can they deliver? Against Kerry twice and Tyrone twice in the last five years they had the chance to announce their arrival as a genuine heavyweight but fell short. It's now or never in terms of winning an Anglo-Celt for the first time in nearly a quarter of a century.

Tyrone on the other hand don't really have much pressure on them. They've loosely talked about winning back-to-back Ulsters but not with much conviction in terms of it being an all-consuming goal. For the first time in Mickey's reign, Tyrone can approach a championship game knowing that win or lose, they're still on course - a loss will only be a slight blip and maybe a welcome extra game before the quarters. No one would begrudge Monaghan an Ulster title. Have they the knackers to grasp it?

Incidentally, I've heard people claim that this is a Monaghan outfit who know this is their last big push - how many of that side are 28-32?

Good post, and regarding the reference to Tyrone potentially going into the qualifiers I think that a defeat against Monaghan would actually do more good for Tyrone this season in the long run, not that I will be hoping they lose come Ulster Final day.

So who's doing who a favour here??

GrandMasterFlash

Quote from: ONeill on July 02, 2010, 10:37:25 AM
Arse-boxin aside, Monaghan have been mightily impressive this year. They dismantled Armagh like no other side in recent years (prob a decade) and treated Fermanagh like pesky irritants. It was like the Tyrone of 2003. Monaghan seem to be in the zone - a team hell bent of securing the legacy of this side with an Ulster title and they'll trample over anything that gets in their way. If Tyrone fall the same way as Armagh and Fermanagh then they deserve all the plaudits that'll come their way, especially after the abuse that befell them v Derry in 2009. How much of that is down to Grimley I don't know but last year Monaghan looked like a team that'd emptied the tank this last 3-4 years.

However, Tyrone are in a position that is rather advantageous. No matter what the bookies say (they'll have Tyrone odds-on) the majority of pundits and general public will fancy Monaghan to take this one. Tyrone haven't really put together a good half this year whilst Monaghan are blitzing sides. Sean Cavanagh was in the paper last week talking about 'this great Monaghan side' that everyone is going on about and how they're up against it. The pressure really is on Monaghan now. Can they deliver? Against Kerry twice and Tyrone twice in the last five years they had the chance to announce their arrival as a genuine heavyweight but fell short. It's now or never in terms of winning an Anglo-Celt for the first time in nearly a quarter of a century.

Tyrone on the other hand don't really have much pressure on them. They've loosely talked about winning back-to-back Ulsters but not with much conviction in terms of it being an all-consuming goal. For the first time in Mickey's reign, Tyrone can approach a championship game knowing that win or lose, they're still on course - a loss will only be a slight blip and maybe a welcome extra game before the quarters. No one would begrudge Monaghan an Ulster title. Have they the knackers to grasp it?

Incidentally, I've heard people claim that this is a Monaghan outfit who know this is their last big push - how many of that side are 28-32?

Good assessment O'Neill. They have fallen short in all their years together (taking 2004 as the starting point), apart from the NFL Div2 title that year (it's all relative lads!). On the age profile I'd say the following squad players are between 28-32;

Shane Duffy
Dermot McArdle
JP Mone
Gary McQuaid
Damien Freeman
Dick Clerkin
Rory Woods
Paul Finlay (might be just 28)
Tommy Freeman


ziggysego

Monaghan are a terrific team and I am delighted to see them in another USFC Final and against Tyrone too. This will service us well, as we had it too easy against Antrim last week that eventually costed us problems against Cork in the semi-final. When we win Ulster this team and go onto win Sam, Monaghan can take pride in giving us a test before the real football started.
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Main Street

On the contrary, most pundits and most neutrals, will fancy Tyrone to edge this one.
The talk amongst pundits is that Monaghan will give Tyrone, at a minimum, a serious test and have a fair to good chance of winning.
There is no wave of expectation from pundits or the knowledgeable public that Monaghan will win.

Here on the board with the neutrals, there is maybe a hope amongst some, that Monaghan will do it but there is no evident expectation that they will do it.
Inside Monaghan, of course the pressure is on to win the Anglo Celt. The expectation is that that they are ready for this game and play out the whole 70 mins.


GrandMasterFlash

Quote from: ziggysego on July 02, 2010, 12:25:14 PM
Monaghan are a terrific team and I am delighted to see them in another USFC Final and against Tyrone too. This will service us well, as we had it too easy against Antrim last week that eventually costed us problems against Cork in the semi-final. When we win Ulster this team and go onto win Sam, Monaghan can take pride in giving us a test before the real football started.

With a statement like that at least you can claim after the game that you were talking absolute bullsh*t..

The best 'disclaimer' to date it has to be said..