Israel Attack Humanitarian Ship, 10 men killed

[Aerlik]

Some interesting posts here already but Skull and Seafoid's in particular caught my attention.  I have been following the situation in the Middle East since 1975 when as  young lad I saw the start of the Lebanese civil war on the TV at  home.  Ever since I have tried to keep up to date with what has been going on and have met and discussed the situation with many arabs.  We get enough of the pro-fascist/zionist view in our "mainstream" media.
Ever since the fall of the Iron Curtain Israel has been forced more and more into the vanguard of American interests in the region.  In the 6-day war in 1967 Israel, acting on information supplied by the Yanks attacked Egypt, Syrian and Jordan pulverising their forces, especially the air forces.  the arab countries were stunned and dishevelled afterwards.  Sadat took over from Nasser and quietly started rebuilding with the help of the Soviets.  When the 1973 October war started, the arab coalition was on the point of defeating Israel that it took the intercession of Nixon and Brezhnev to call off Sadat's troops as they were afraid of the void that might be left.  Better the devil you know and all that there.
As the Cold War progressed it was in the US interests to keep Israel as their bulwark just as they did with Japan, and so it continues to today.  Israel acts with total disregard for what others say as it is the puppet and the US is the puppetmaster.  Don't fool yourselves into thinking this was a stand alone issue without any intervention on the part of the US.  They more than likely were aware of what was going to happen.  Think Google Earth!!! 
As I have stated before, it is my belief that the US is trying to suffocate the rising influence of the Rus Fed and the Chinese on the global energy market.  The US have dwindling resources and are in debt to the eyeballs to the Chinese which actually own America when you think about it.  One only has to look at a map and draw a line along all of Russia's and China's borders to notice that practically every country on the other side is an ally of the US...except ONE.  Iran, hence the alleged positioning of the nuclear sub near Iran.  The oil rich countries of central Russia want to get their oil out but how?  Through countries effectively controlled by the USA.  And in China's case, it is now well known that China is a major supplier of foreign aid to some of the most corrupt regimes in Africa...and who is supplying the arms to oppose such regimes???  And so the Status quo remains.

One final thought...those of you with Foxtel.  Consider how Murdoch is using your money.   He isn't supporting the Palestinians that's for sure.

[give her dixie]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gaza-TV-News/119275738102852?ref=ts

Folks, i'm so busy to post at present, however you can click on the link above, and you will find all the latest news.

Re post anything please on here.


*************  BREAKING NEWS **************

GAZA PORT UNDER ATTACK, AND 3 DEAD IN AIRSTIKES IN NORTHERN GAZA

[Gaoth Dobhair Abu]

This doesn't seem to be getting any coverage anywhere!!

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=288655

[seafoid]

Some interesting posts here already but Skull and Seafoid's in particular caught my attention.  I have been following the situation in the Middle East since 1975 when as  young lad I saw the start of the Lebanese civil war on the TV at  home.  Ever since I have tried to keep up to date with what has been going on and have met and discussed the situation with many arabs.  We get enough of the pro-fascist/zionist view in our "mainstream" media.
Ever since the fall of the Iron Curtain Israel has been forced more and more into the vanguard of American interests in the region.  In the 6-day war in 1967 Israel, acting on information supplied by the Yanks attacked Egypt, Syrian and Jordan pulverising their forces, especially the air forces.  the arab countries were stunned and dishevelled afterwards.  Sadat took over from Nasser and quietly started rebuilding with the help of the Soviets.  When the 1973 October war started, the arab coalition was on the point of defeating Israel that it took the intercession of Nixon and Brezhnev to call off Sadat's troops as they were afraid of the void that might be left.  Better the devil you know and all that there.
As the Cold War progressed it was in the US interests to keep Israel as their bulwark just as they did with Japan, and so it continues to today.  Israel acts with total disregard for what others say as it is the puppet and the US is the puppetmaster.  Don't fool yourselves into thinking this was a stand alone issue without any intervention on the part of the US.  They more than likely were aware of what was going to happen.  Think Google Earth!!! 
As I have stated before, it is my belief that the US is trying to suffocate the rising influence of the Rus Fed and the Chinese on the global energy market.  The US have dwindling resources and are in debt to the eyeballs to the Chinese which actually own America when you think about it.  One only has to look at a map and draw a line along all of Russia's and China's borders to notice that practically every country on the other side is an ally of the US...except ONE.  Iran, hence the alleged positioning of the nuclear sub near Iran.  The oil rich countries of central Russia want to get their oil out but how?  Through countries effectively controlled by the USA.  And in China's case, it is now well known that China is a major supplier of foreign aid to some of the most corrupt regimes in Africa...and who is supplying the arms to oppose such regimes???  And so the Status quo remains.

One final thought...those of you with Foxtel.  Consider how Murdoch is using your money.   He isn't supporting the Palestinians that's for sure.

Israel has been doing its own thing under US cover since 1967 but now is is danger of losing popular support in the US as the generation that produced Alan Dershowitz dies off and Israel's real face comes to be revealed to people who believe in the values of liberal democracy and don't buy the guff that Zionism is liberal, regardless of the Jerusalem gay pride parade.
The millitary industrial settler machine is unstoppable and is driving Israel into apartheid  . It's like the hydra and it is going to take down the Jewish state since the system becomes more grotesque and cruel by the year. Ultimately there aren't enough Jews who want to live in Israel or palestinians who want to leave  to make apartheid a success.

Moshe dayan said "treat them like dogs. those who want to can leave" and that is the policy Israel has been running since 1948. the palestinians were all supposed to have disappeared by now. They are now more numerous in I/P than Jews and the gap will only get wider. Israel is sponsored by the reducing secular Jewish population and they keep the whole show on the road. If those people decide to leave in large numbers a la the educated unionists in NI the game is up. There is no HM treasury to bankroll the country a la northern Ireland.  The future for Israel looks very grim.

[seafoid]

I'm still wondering what our government is doing about the kidnap of Irish citizens and their abduction to Israel, a place they had no intention of going to. Why is the Irish ambassador to the UN not raising the kidnap of Irish citizens at the security council, and demanding international sanctions against the perpetrators?

The abuse of our passports by Israeli agents was an indirect compromising of the security of our citizens. The seizure of our citizens on the high seas is an act of piracy and is an order of magnitude more serious. We should reasonably expect our government to defend our right to travel without let or hindrance and to protect us against attack, kidnapping and abduction. What did I pay €80 for a passport for?

No other state has molested Irish citizens in this way. When Irish citizens are kidnapped by guerillas or terrorists in other countries, we have Department Of Foreign Affairs officials, consuls and ambassadors on the job immediately. Where are they now? At the very least, we should be doing what Turkey is doing and telling the Israelis that an Air Corps plane will be landing in Tel Aviv in five hours time and they had better produce our citizens.

Compare Hillary Clinton's response to that torpedoed South Korean ship 10 days ago and what Israel did to those ships going to Gaza.
It's double standards all round.

[Baile an tuaigh]

I talked to a Jewish lady lately who said Barrack Obama is worse (if its possable) than George Bush regarding Israels ethnic cleansing of Palestine. She is part of a Jewish group called "not in our name". Has been to visit Palestine on more than two occasions and is well informed. Also she protested out side A.I.P.A.C functions who were major contributers to Obamas political campaign.

John Hurson your doing a fantastic job well done and I admire your courage.

[Tyrones own]

How many are dead numerous different sources still have the number at 9 here

[tyssam5]

Some interesting posts here already but Skull and Seafoid's in particular caught my attention.  I have been following the situation in the Middle East since 1975 when as  young lad I saw the start of the Lebanese civil war on the TV at  home.  Ever since I have tried to keep up to date with what has been going on and have met and discussed the situation with many arabs.  We get enough of the pro-fascist/zionist view in our "mainstream" media.
Ever since the fall of the Iron Curtain Israel has been forced more and more into the vanguard of American interests in the region.  In the 6-day war in 1967 Israel, acting on information supplied by the Yanks attacked Egypt, Syrian and Jordan pulverising their forces, especially the air forces.  the arab countries were stunned and dishevelled afterwards.  Sadat took over from Nasser and quietly started rebuilding with the help of the Soviets.  When the 1973 October war started, the arab coalition was on the point of defeating Israel that it took the intercession of Nixon and Brezhnev to call off Sadat's troops as they were afraid of the void that might be left.  Better the devil you know and all that there.
As the Cold War progressed it was in the US interests to keep Israel as their bulwark just as they did with Japan, and so it continues to today.  Israel acts with total disregard for what others say as it is the puppet and the US is the puppetmaster.  Don't fool yourselves into thinking this was a stand alone issue without any intervention on the part of the US.  They more than likely were aware of what was going to happen.  Think Google Earth!!! 
As I have stated before, it is my belief that the US is trying to suffocate the rising influence of the Rus Fed and the Chinese on the global energy market.  The US have dwindling resources and are in debt to the eyeballs to the Chinese which actually own America when you think about it.  One only has to look at a map and draw a line along all of Russia's and China's borders to notice that practically every country on the other side is an ally of the US...except ONE.  Iran, hence the alleged positioning of the nuclear sub near Iran.  The oil rich countries of central Russia want to get their oil out but how?  Through countries effectively controlled by the USA.  And in China's case, it is now well known that China is a major supplier of foreign aid to some of the most corrupt regimes in Africa...and who is supplying the arms to oppose such regimes???  And so the Status quo remains.

One final thought...those of you with Foxtel.  Consider how Murdoch is using your money.   He isn't supporting the Palestinians that's for sure.

Israel has been doing its own thing under US cover since 1967 but now is is danger of losing popular support in the US as the generation that produced Alan Dershowitz dies off and Israel's real face comes to be revealed to people who believe in the values of liberal democracy and don't buy the guff that Zionism is liberal, regardless of the Jerusalem gay pride parade.
The millitary industrial settler machine is unstoppable and is driving Israel into apartheid  . It's like the hydra and it is going to take down the Jewish state since the system becomes more grotesque and cruel by the year. Ultimately there aren't enough Jews who want to live in Israel or palestinians who want to leave  to make apartheid a success.

Moshe dayan said "treat them like dogs. those who want to can leave" and that is the policy Israel has been running since 1948. the palestinians were all supposed to have disappeared by now. They are now more numerous in I/P than Jews and the gap will only get wider. Israel is sponsored by the reducing secular Jewish population and they keep the whole show on the road. If those people decide to leave in large numbers a la the educated unionists in NI the game is up. There is no HM treasury to bankroll the country a la northern Ireland.  The future for Israel looks very grim.

Unfortunately there is no sign of the US treasury ending support any time soon

[ziggysego]

How many are dead numerous different sources still have the number at 9 here

I'm hearing there was no attack on GAZA's Port.

[aontroim]

Gaza: investigate the raid, end the blockade
Israel's deadly raid of the Gaza humanitarian flotilla has sparked worldwide outrage. This time, we can't accept mere words from our leaders. It's time for action.

This petition will be delivered to the UN and world leaders when it reaches 200,000 signatures -- sign on to join the global call for truth, accountability, and justice for Gaza!

http://www.avaaz.org/en/gaza_flotilla_3/?vl

[pintsofguinness]

Israelis opened fire before boarding Gaza flotilla, say released activists
First eyewitness accounts of raid contradict version put out by Israeli officials

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/01/gaza-flotilla-eyewitness-accounts-gunfire

From that article...

Cetin is among a handful of Turkish activists to be released; more than 300 remain in Israeli custody.

I'm just in, haven't seen news all day but why are they holding these people and why are they being allowed to hold people???
Why is there not uproar that they are holding people hostage?

[Rossfan]

Why is there not uproar that they are holding people hostage?
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Because they are the US's ally and they can do what they like and the Western media( owned by very rich tycoons) think the terrorist rogue murdering pirate state of Israel is wonderful.

[Tyrones own]

Any chance some of ye could explain the thread title...some here have
Even quoted articles mentioning the nine deaths.
Where is the 20 figure coming from?

[ONeill]

Isn't it mad that in this part of the world that Taig=Palestine Hun=Israel.

Mad.

[Arthur_Friend]

Any chance some of ye could explain the thread title...some here have
Even quoted articles mentioning the nine deaths.
Where is the 20 figure coming from?

If you google around it seems like the death toll varies from 9-20 depending on what report you are reading.