Sugar Shane Mosley vs Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather: 01/05/10

[JimStynes]

Mayweather was awesome, never thought I would see Mosley take such a beating. If Maywaether-Pacquiao is made, will this be the first ever time that the top two consensus P4P have got it on?

Dont get carried away, he was fighting an ld man who hadnt fought in fifteen months and who still managed to rock his world in the second round.

Pac man will beat the living shite out of money, the problem is it probably wont happen, Mayweather is a very cagey dude and knows when to fight opponents, I think he knows full well Pac man will beat him and that is why I dont think it will happen. If this fight does go ahead I think Pac man beats him in six or less, he is that good.

What a load of balls, Manny has not fought anyone nearly as good as Mayweather. I think your the one getting carried away here.  Mayweather was caught with one good punch for the first time in his whole career the other night, hes been rocked once in 41 fights, thats some going. And the thing that impressed me most was the way he came back from that and fought smart until he recovered then went on to totally dominate the rest of the fight.  Manny Pacquiao would be the toughest test in Floyds career but cant believe you think Pacquiao would win so easily.  Pac man wouldnt get near floyd as much as he would with other boxers. I am a fan of both fighters but i think Mayweather would win on points.

Heres what De La Hoya has to say about the fight aswell:

LAS VEGAS -- Oscar De La Hoya couldn't help but be impressed by the complete and total domination by Floyd Mayweather of his business partner and two-time conqueror, Shane Mosley, before a raucous crowd of 15,117 Saturday night at the MGM Grand Garden Arena.

Not only did Mayweather win all but a combined four rounds on the three judges' cards, but the smaller man survived a rough moment in the second round where he was staggered by a right hand, only to turn the tables and come as close to knocking out Mosley as anyone has during the WBA welterweight champion's career.

During the post-fight press conference packed with members of the media, De La Hoya spent a full seven minutes during which he did not mince words or hold back on the superlatives while praising Mayweather's performance.

"Tonight convinced me. I have to say the truth. It convinced me that he is the best. Possibly, and there's obviously a lot of people who can argue this, but he's possibly the best of all time. Mayweather has the skills to beat anybody," said De La Hoya, whose Golden Boy Promotions employs Mosley and also promoted the event.

"Floyd Mayweather has the talent, and he has the work ethic. And all over the world, people are becoming fans of the talent that he possesses," said De La Hoya. "You really have to commend him for that. He fought a fighter in Shane Mosley that was supposed to be the most dangerous fight of his career. And Mayweather showed us why he's the best."

The 33-year-old Mayweather won going away against the 38-year-old Mosley (46-6, 39 knockouts), who earned a guaranteed $7 million to Mayweather's non-heavyweight record $22.5 million guaranteed purse.

Mayweather was facing the largest and most athletic opponent of his career, even as he maintained prior to the fight that Mosley would simply end up like every one of his previous rivals: befuddled by his defense and fighting for his own survival against Mayweather's underrated punching power.

"Floyd Mayweather showed me, when he was hurt, he showed his true greatness," said De La Hoya. "I felt that he was going to go down, and that he was going to not be able to handle Mosely's punching power. But he just showed true greatness and showed what he's all about."

Mayweather won on the cards of Adalaide Byrd and Dave Moretti by the score of 119-109, and on that of Robert Hoyle 118-110.

FanHouse had it for Mayweather, 119-109 for total punches, 85-to-46 in jabs and 123-to-46 in power punches.

"All of the hard work and the work ethic that he has, it just shows you that Mayweather is the real deal," said De La Hoya. "I'm a firm and true believer that Mayweather is the best that we have now."

De La Hoya was twice a loser to Mosley, who dethroned him as WBC welterweight champion by split-decision in June 2000, and then dethroned De La Hoya as WBC and WBA junior middleweight titlist by unanimous decision in September 2003.

De La Hoya outweighed Mayweather 154-to-150 in May 2007 when Mayweather defeated him by split-decision.

Prior to Saturday night's bout, De La Hoya and Mosley had gone over a scouting report on how Mosley could come up with the means with which to defeat Mayweather, but to no avail.

"We went over combinations, we went over jabs. I don't know if people saw my fight with Mayweather, but when I was landing jabs -- Whew! It's not the key to beating Mayweather, but it was working. You know? Until my left shoulder went out on me and until my back went out on me and I grew old overnight after that sixth round, you know?" said De La Hoya.

"I think that the jab is like a lost art. I could probably say that I had a pretty good jab. I went over it with Mosley, like, 'Jab, you have to jab.' And you don't get lazy on him, because he feints you," said De La Hoya.

"But we didn't see that Mosley tonight. Not the Mosley that we're used to seeing. And it has a lot to do with Floyd Mayweather's abilities," said De La Hoya. "We can't come up with excuses and this and that. Mosley had a rival in front of him and, hey, he lost against a better man."

Mosley fanned the flames for the matchup in September when he interrupted Mayweather's post-fight, in-the-ring interview to call him out on the microphone following Mayweather's lopsided, unanimous decision over Juan Manuel Marquez that ended a 21-month ring absence for the unbeaten fighter.

Mosley's last fight was in January 2009, when he dethroned Antonio Margarito as WBA king with a ninth-round knockout, stopping Margarito for the first time in the his career.

Prior to facing Margarito, Mosley had scored a 12th-round knockout of former world champion Ricardo Mayorga up at 154 pounds to rebound from a November 2007 loss to Miguel Cotto, a man Margarito knocked out in the 11th round in July 2008.

Cotto was dethroned in November by seven-division champion Manny Pacquiao (51-3-2, 38 knockouts), who knocked out Cotto in the 12th round.

A winner of 12 straight fights, including eight by knockout, Pacquiao also stopped De La Hoya in the eighth round in December 2008.

Negotiations for a potential bout between Pacquiao and Mayweather dissolved over drug-testing issues, making it possible for Mayweather-Mosley to be slated.

Mosley, who admitted to unknowingly using steroids in 2003, agreed at the behest of Mayweather that both fighters have their blood and urine randomly tested by the United States Anti-Doping Agency.

De La Hoya was asked who would win between Pacquiao and Mayweather.

"I did fight all three of them. Shane Mosley, Pacquiao and Mayweather. I have to be truthful with you. Mayweather is on a different level. He's on a different level because he's a student of the game. He will dissect you outside the ring and finish you off inside of the ring. He knows how to get into your head, and he knows how to beat you, mentally," said De La Hoya.

"Mayweather knows how to beat you physically. And, yes, he can wait for you to make mistakes and be a student of the game. Pacquiao makes many mistakes. That will fall into Mayweather's hands with no problems. He'll make it easy," said De La Hoya. "It'll be an entertaining fight, let me tell you, because there is no stopping Pacquiao. There's no quit in Pacquiao, and that's for sure. So we feel that a fight with Pacquiao and Mayweather would be, obviously, a very interesting fight."

De La Hoya said that he was a better fighter when he faced Mayweather than he was when he fought Pacquiao, for whom he claims to have been weakened after having had to lose weight to compete at a catchweight of 145 pounds.

"Manny Pacquiao is a great fighter, and I'll never, ever disrespect his abilities. But when I fought Mayweather and when I fought Pacquiao, obviously, it was a different Oscar. I mean, night and day. I was obviously more prepared for Mayweather. I was on my weight and I wasn't drained, and I wasn't a zombie in other words like I was against Pacquiao," said De La Hoya.

"Mosley beat me twice. Mayweather beat the guy who beat me twice. The Mayweather style is a hard defense to break," said De La Hoya. "Like Mayweather says, 41 people have tried, and 41 people have failed. I appreciate what he's all about now after tonight."

What would it take to make Mayweather-Pacquiao happen?

"As far as I'm concerned, Mayweather is the one to dictate, Floyd Mayweather is the king of the world now. So, we all know that from watching 24/7 that the USADA drug testing and what it did for the sport. The respect that it brought to boxing," said De La Hoya.

"We know that all fighters can be clean and are clean because of what they showed on 24/7," said De La Hoya. "As long as we can keep on doing that, if fighters can agree to all of that, then we have fights, and we can make fights. But if they're not going to agree to it, then how can we make fights?"

As for Mayweather, "I have to tell you that Mayweather is by far, the best."

"The world now loves him because a lot of the fans realize that we're looking at something special. Mayweather is special. So we have to respect that," said De La Hoya.

"You know, we have a lot of fighters in our era who are good fighters and they come and go," said De La Hoya. "But special fighters, special boxers like Mayweather, we talk about them forever."

[nrico2006]

Mayweather was awesome, never thought I would see Mosley take such a beating. If Maywaether-Pacquiao is made, will this be the first ever time that the top two consensus P4P have got it on?

Dont get carried away, he was fighting an ld man who hadnt fought in fifteen months and who still managed to rock his world in the second round.

Pac man will beat the living shite out of money, the problem is it probably wont happen, Mayweather is a very cagey dude and knows when to fight opponents, I think he knows full well Pac man will beat him and that is why I dont think it will happen. If this fight does go ahead I think Pac man beats him in six or less, he is that good.

Although it shouldn't be and isn't PBFs place to demand drug tests for fighters, it seems strange that the great Pacman is so reluctant to take these seemingly straight forward tests, that is unless he has something to hide. 

[gallsman]

Finally watched this last night. Simply stunning from Mayweather, he completely and utterly battered him. Also showed he can take big punches; he had to scramble in that second round and coped comfortably.

Alvarez looks a great prospect at 19, still a bit raw though. Again, coped admirably when badly hurt in the first round.

Anyone else watch the Salvidia-Ouali fight? First round classic if anyone can find it on youtube.

[JimStynes]

Mayweather was awesome, never thought I would see Mosley take such a beating. If Maywaether-Pacquiao is made, will this be the first ever time that the top two consensus P4P have got it on?

Dont get carried away, he was fighting an ld man who hadnt fought in fifteen months and who still managed to rock his world in the second round.

Pac man will beat the living shite out of money, the problem is it probably wont happen, Mayweather is a very cagey dude and knows when to fight opponents, I think he knows full well Pac man will beat him and that is why I dont think it will happen. If this fight does go ahead I think Pac man beats him in six or less, he is that good.

Although it shouldn't be and isn't PBFs place to demand drug tests for fighters, it seems strange that the great Pacman is so reluctant to take these seemingly straight forward tests, that is unless he has something to hide.

I think he doesnt like needles or something like that. If anyone has seen the Mayweather Mosley 24/7 show it shows the way the drug testing is carried out. It doesnt look to much hassle and even mosley who has had drug issues in that past said it was a good thing for the sport.  I really hope they can get it sorted and get this fight on for later in the year.

[Boycey]

Mayweather was awesome, never thought I would see Mosley take such a beating. If Maywaether-Pacquiao is made, will this be the first ever time that the top two consensus P4P have got it on?

Dont get carried away, he was fighting an ld man who hadnt fought in fifteen months and who still managed to rock his world in the second round.

Pac man will beat the living shite out of money, the problem is it probably wont happen, Mayweather is a very cagey dude and knows when to fight opponents, I think he knows full well Pac man will beat him and that is why I dont think it will happen. If this fight does go ahead I think Pac man beats him in six or less, he is that good.

Although it shouldn't be and isn't PBFs place to demand drug tests for fighters, it seems strange that the great Pacman is so reluctant to take these seemingly straight forward tests, that is unless he has something to hide.

I'm with Pac man on this issue. He's agreed to be subjected to the same tests as all boxers are so why should he agree to take extra tests at the whim of Mayweather. I actually think its just a ruse to delay the fight and hype it up an extra notch and add even more money to both fighters paychecks

[JimStynes]

I dont really know what the craic is with the testing that normally goes on in boxing but surely the extra tests that Mayweather wants would help clean up the sport. Again though i dont really know what goes on with tests that boxers normally go through in build up to a fight and it could be just Mayweather being a ****.

[nrico2006]

I dont really know what the craic is with the testing that normally goes on in boxing but surely the extra tests that Mayweather wants would help clean up the sport. Again though i dont really know what goes on with tests that boxers normally go through in build up to a fight and it could be just Mayweather being a ****.

I think Mayweather is never anything but a di*k.  But I like him.  Its a case of him acting the tool but also I would be interested to know if Pacquaio is clean considering how well he has moved up through the weights and kept his speed etc.

[gallsman]

I dont really know what the craic is with the testing that normally goes on in boxing but surely the extra tests that Mayweather wants would help clean up the sport. Again though i dont really know what goes on with tests that boxers normally go through in build up to a fight and it could be just Mayweather being a ****.

I think Mayweather is never anything but a di*k.  But I like him.  Its a case of him acted the tool but also I would be interested to know if Pacquaio is clean considering how well he has moved up through the weights and kept his speed etc.

I don't think Mayweather is that bad. He loves playing the bad guy but it's all about selling seats.

[JimStynes]

I dont really know what the craic is with the testing that normally goes on in boxing but surely the extra tests that Mayweather wants would help clean up the sport. Again though i dont really know what goes on with tests that boxers normally go through in build up to a fight and it could be just Mayweather being a ****.

I think Mayweather is never anything but a di*k.  But I like him.  Its a case of him acted the tool but also I would be interested to know if Pacquaio is clean considering how well he has moved up through the weights and kept his speed etc.

I don't think Mayweather is that bad. He loves playing the bad guy but it's all about selling seats.

I dont think he is a bad spud, he does a lot for charity and all that craic. He even says himself that there cant be 2 good guys in the fight so he plays the bad guy.  As gallsman says, its all about selling seats.  Mayweather comes from a fucked up family aswell.  Have a look at the young 6 year old fella who runs about with the Mayweather camp;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztm5t18xgCQ

[DirtyDozen12]

Enjoyed the fight and always love watching Mayweather, class act.  I always get the feeling that he is more liked here in Ireland and the UK than he is in America.  Think America tunes into see Floyd Mayweather in the hope that he gets beat, they dont like him at all. 

What was nice to see about this fight was that it was mostly PBF who was on the front foot for most of the fight which we dont see that often as he normally just counter puches.  Was also great to see him getting hit and nearly knocked down in the second as you knew he had to come back and respond to that.  Dont know how he stayed on his feet, looked like his knee had bent and he was down, incredible balance to stay up.  Think he was close to stopping Mosley who was staggered and jaded walking back to the corner in the later rounds.  Maywether looked as if he could box another 10 rounds!!  cant see Mosley fighting too much more to be honest, he is a very likeable character from those HBO 24/7 pre fight shows.

Hope that Pacman and PBF get it on now, cant understand why Pacman just wont take the tests, drug tested should be encouraged in sport as nothing worse than an unclean athlete.  I dont think Pacman is unclean but he should just go through with it til we get the fight on.  I

Think if anyone has a chance of beating PBF they would need to do it in around the first 5 rounds maximum.  Dont think anyone can out-box him over 12 and he just gets stronger as the rounds go on.  Always in top class condition.

[JimStynes]

Anyone ever been over to Vegas to see a big fight? Me and the aul fella have talked about going sometime. Would love to go but it would cost some money.

[DirtyDozen12]

Anyone ever been over to Vegas to see a big fight? Me and the aul fella have talked about going sometime. Would love to go but it would cost some money.

Would love to do the same.  Think Galwayboy or someone like that was at the Mayweather vs Marquez fight i mind him posting on here.

[nrico2006]

Enjoyed the fight and always love watching Mayweather, class act.  I always get the feeling that he is more liked here in Ireland and the UK than he is in America.  Think America tunes into see Floyd Mayweather in the hope that he gets beat, they dont like him at all. 

What was nice to see about this fight was that it was mostly PBF who was on the front foot for most of the fight which we dont see that often as he normally just counter puches.  Was also great to see him getting hit and nearly knocked down in the second as you knew he had to come back and respond to that.  Dont know how he stayed on his feet, looked like his knee had bent and he was down, incredible balance to stay up.  Think he was close to stopping Mosley who was staggered and jaded walking back to the corner in the later rounds.  Maywether looked as if he could box another 10 rounds!!  cant see Mosley fighting too much more to be honest, he is a very likeable character from those HBO 24/7 pre fight shows.

Hope that Pacman and PBF get it on now, cant understand why Pacman just wont take the tests, drug tested should be encouraged in sport as nothing worse than an unclean athlete.  I dont think Pacman is unclean but he should just go through with it til we get the fight on.  I

Think if anyone has a chance of beating PBF they would need to do it in around the first 5 rounds maximum.  Dont think anyone can out-box him over 12 and he just gets stronger as the rounds go on.  Always in top class condition.

The Mayweather and Oscar fight was tight, still believe that it was a draw or even that De La Hoya shaded it. 

[JimStynes]

Enjoyed the fight and always love watching Mayweather, class act.  I always get the feeling that he is more liked here in Ireland and the UK than he is in America.  Think America tunes into see Floyd Mayweather in the hope that he gets beat, they dont like him at all. 

What was nice to see about this fight was that it was mostly PBF who was on the front foot for most of the fight which we dont see that often as he normally just counter puches.  Was also great to see him getting hit and nearly knocked down in the second as you knew he had to come back and respond to that.  Dont know how he stayed on his feet, looked like his knee had bent and he was down, incredible balance to stay up.  Think he was close to stopping Mosley who was staggered and jaded walking back to the corner in the later rounds.  Maywether looked as if he could box another 10 rounds!!  cant see Mosley fighting too much more to be honest, he is a very likeable character from those HBO 24/7 pre fight shows.

Hope that Pacman and PBF get it on now, cant understand why Pacman just wont take the tests, drug tested should be encouraged in sport as nothing worse than an unclean athlete.  I dont think Pacman is unclean but he should just go through with it til we get the fight on.  I

Think if anyone has a chance of beating PBF they would need to do it in around the first 5 rounds maximum.  Dont think anyone can out-box him over 12 and he just gets stronger as the rounds go on.  Always in top class condition.

The Mayweather and Oscar fight was tight, still believe that it was a draw or even that De La Hoya shaded it.

Noway nrico, i watched it today again and Mayweather clearly won the fight espcially the later rounds. Even De La Hoya himself admits he was beaten by the better man. Although i remember the first time i watched it i was thinking it was a close one.

[DennistheMenace]

Mayweather was awesome, never thought I would see Mosley take such a beating. If Maywaether-Pacquiao is made, will this be the first ever time that the top two consensus P4P have got it on?

Dont get carried away, he was fighting an ld man who hadnt fought in fifteen months and who still managed to rock his world in the second round.

Pac man will beat the living shite out of money, the problem is it probably wont happen, Mayweather is a very cagey dude and knows when to fight opponents, I think he knows full well Pac man will beat him and that is why I dont think it will happen. If this fight does go ahead I think Pac man beats him in six or less, he is that good.

Although it shouldn't be and isn't PBFs place to demand drug tests for fighters, it seems strange that the great Pacman is so reluctant to take these seemingly straight forward tests, that is unless he has something to hide.

I think he doesnt like needles or something like that. If anyone has seen the Mayweather Mosley 24/7 show it shows the way the drug testing is carried out. It doesnt look to much hassle and even mosley who has had drug issues in that past said it was a good thing for the sport.  I really hope they can get it sorted and get this fight on for later in the year.

That was his inital excuse which doesn't hold up considering his various tattoos..