Should God be removed from the Irish Constitution

[mannix]

god, religion and the like, you could not make it up.

[mannix]

my old fella says that its all the cnuts that do not attend mass that are to blame for the downfall of the church, he also reckons its a digrace that pubs be allowed open good friday, he goes to the pub every single day himself and when i quizzed him on the closed good friday thing he said he was a good catholic and not like the rest of the f   ing w    ers that live in the country. its amusing hearing holier than thou people preaching.
i would be a non believer myself and think religion is a way used for centuries of controlling people, it has no place in the running of a country.

[Rossfan]

The sectarian c unts who built the Titanic thought they had built an unsinkable ship.
The arrogant cheating lying banker/developer/FF mafia  thought they had built a recession proof economic boom.
God showed them where to get off   

[J70]

In the Preamble of BUNREACHT NA hÉIREANN it declares
"In the Name of the Most Holy Trinity, from Whom is all authority and to Whom, as our final end, all actions both of men and States must be referred,"

It's time for it to go.

Shouldn't have been there in the first place.

[ballinaman]

Perhaps that's what Enda Kenny should be reforming when he gets in??

Might not be a bad idea.

Ya because it's obviously the most pressing matter.

[Pangurban]

Sure lets discard God from the Constitution, lets kick him out of the country altogether, give the Publicans free rein to increase their profits on Good Friday, abolish Christmas with its religious overtones, in fact lets turn our back completely on our heritage and history, for one thing is certain ,  we have shown ourselves to be unworthy of laying claim to any of these things.

[fer fox ache]

Religion is form of mental illness a psychosis that allows people to believe in an imaginery friend who makes moral judgements on their behalf.

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Perhaps that's what Enda Kenny should be reforming when he gets in??

Might not be a bad idea.

Ya because it's obviously the most pressing matter.

I'm sure you are talking to Farreandeelin not me Ballinaman, as that was his idea.

But perhaps if God had not been mentioned in Bunreacht na hEireann all the child abuse and inslaved adults in industrial schools and other church (whichever) run organistation might not have happened or the state may at least have had the balls at least to stand up and challenge this evil. 

The U.K. is even worse than us in letting God infiltrate their form of government. Their head of state has been assigned the right by God him/herself. 

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Sure lets discard God from the Constitution, lets kick him out of the country altogether, give the Publicans free rein to increase their profits on Good Friday NOW YOU GOT IT, get religion out of governance and boost jobs and the economy, abolish Christmas with its religious overtones, in fact lets turn our back completely on our heritage (Israels and Romes) and history, for one thing is certain ,  we have shown ourselves to be unworthy of laying claim to any of these things.

An individual can celebrate Christmas its not the place of the Government to do so.

Holloween/Samhain that is our culture, lets get it back from the Yanks. Perhaps we can ban drink on this day of IRISH cultural significance instead.

Re: St.Patricks Day, that is different for two reasons, we have chosen this day as our National holiday and he is a person of historical significance who actually came to Ireland and interacted with our history. Actually forget banning sring on Samhain, this is the day we should ban drink. The day Irish people come off their lenten promises, because thats what Jesus did, he got lashed out of it on Paddy's Day. 

[supersarsfields]

Sure lets discard God from the Constitution, lets kick him out of the country altogether, give the Publicans free rein to increase their profits on Good Friday NOW YOU GOT IT, get religion out of governance and boost jobs and the economy, abolish Christmas with its religious overtones, in fact lets turn our back completely on our heritage (Israels and Romes) and history, for one thing is certain ,  we have shown ourselves to be unworthy of laying claim to any of these things.

An individual can celebrate Christmas its not the place of the Government to do so.
Holloween/Samhain that is our culutre, lets get it back from the Yanks. Perhaps we can ban drink on this day of IRISH cultural significance instead.

So should the work holidays be taken away as well at Christmas and Easter. Then workers could take them when they want?

[mayogodhelpus@gmail.com]

Sure lets discard God from the Constitution, lets kick him out of the country altogether, give the Publicans free rein to increase their profits on Good Friday NOW YOU GOT IT, get religion out of governance and boost jobs and the economy, abolish Christmas with its religious overtones, in fact lets turn our back completely on our heritage (Israels and Romes) and history, for one thing is certain ,  we have shown ourselves to be unworthy of laying claim to any of these things.

An individual can celebrate Christmas its not the place of the Government to do so.
Holloween/Samhain that is our culutre, lets get it back from the Yanks. Perhaps we can ban drink on this day of IRISH cultural significance instead.

So should the work holidays be taken away as well at Christmas and Easter. Then workers could take them when they want?

Not sure. They could be left where they are or moved. I would leave Christmas as it is also ingrained World wide as a common Western (and many other places to take holidays) but defo free to move Easter. Who get holidays on Easter, other than the bank holiday, it can't be the builders they all out of work, are you a teacher? 

[lynchbhoy]

Sure lets discard God from the Constitution, lets kick him out of the country altogether, give the Publicans free rein to increase their profits on Good Friday, abolish Christmas with its religious overtones, in fact lets turn our back completely on our heritage and history, for one thing is certain ,  we have shown ourselves to be unworthy of laying claim to any of these things.

you think we are not already most of the way there ?

[lynchbhoy]

In fairness, that doesn't mention God at all.

It's somehow weirdly appropriate to our supposed reputation for whimsy, absurdity and enigma that we are the only country in the world that has a constitution dedicated to a mystery.

you know what, that explains a lot.
Start how you mean to go on!
We start out embracing and lauding mystery, we then follow suit in all our institutions , watchdogs, hierarchy etc in existing, but stratch the surface and you'll find either nothing exists or there is no policy/procedure/legislation to back up , detail or enforce anything (thinking of financial regulator here)

[Main Street]

 
Financial regulation is an even bigger mystery than the Holy Trinity.

[lynchbhoy]

Financial regulation is an even bigger mystery than the Holy Trinity.

now that you mention it, yes - well in Ireland it was ( and I wager still is)

or before someone says it
financial regulation in Ireland is a MYTH !
it was found that it didnt actually exist when called upon a couple of years ago..no policies or procedures.