Cuban Political Prisoner dies on Hunger Strike

[stew]

It's funny the high grounders here are fierce quiet on this atrocity, but then again,
it did happen in Marxist Cuba.... so that's alright then I suppose

I hate to agree with you, but I agree with you. Cuba is a repressive police state. Anyone who says otherwise, or tries to blame the United States for it, is living in cloud-cuckoo land

It certainly is.

But if the hunger striker was on another part of Cuba, oh say Guantanamo, he would be force fed. He wouldn't even be allowed to hunger strike.

Now I know nothing would make you happier if that were to be the case but ehhh...nope, not this this time, sorry
but sure don't let that get in the way of another of your hateful, typically spineless and pathetic rants.

By the way, I was forwarded  a personal message that had been doing the rounds recently of the primary school playground
in an embarrassing collaborating effort amongst yourselves in an attempt to collectively snub me on here...
Feck it I cant begin to tell ye how out and out face palm type childish and immature this is

Un f**king believable the depths ye daisy chain makers will plunge to gain a footing on the anti US, anti Religion
anti Democracy, anti anything and anybody that doesn't toe the bleeding heart progressive liberal, anti establishment view point

Thought I was more isolated here than I am, didn't you muppet? ye have a mole in the ranks

Tell us, do you have to work hard to be as hateful a human being or was it bred in to ye?

Bred into him is my guess.

Tyrones own, say it aint so, dont tell me muppet man has a traitor in his wee gang, I bet he near shat his panties when he found out that his little group had a mole in it. 

Some of these eejits have little to be doing, imagine trying to blackball a poster for their political leanings? grow the fcuk up bitches.

[muppet]

Clarity ...sure FFS you'd have to remove the blinkers before taking it upon yourself to chastise anyone on Clarity!
Again... my point was, you would have been whacking us for day's with that big stick had this fella died under the USC's watch rather than in a military
hospital in Havana but then you knew that's what I was going at...  yet not a peep on human rights or anything else for that matter other than yet another
cowardly cheap shot at resurrecting Git mo which has absolutely no connection to this particular story whatsoever 

Did you happen to figure out who sang like a canary from your little daisy chain inner circle yet ?
Funk I'd honestly go into hiding if I was busted at something as cringe worthy and immature as that

It's in the same country ff.

If you and MagicKingdom come on here patronising us on abuse of prisoners expect to have your hypocrisy highlighted. You see any abuse of prisoners is wrong, even if the USA is responsible. Godot?

how was i patronising? and where is my hypocrisy? i simply posted an article on a hunger striker dying as it has happened in our own country. its not that forking hard to get your information right if your going to quote me - its printed right in front of you.

He died in Cuba! Get your own information right.

Your hypocrisy is in your blind defense of the actions of the US abroad while attacking their actions of their enemies even though they commit similar offenses. 

[muppet]

It's funny the high grounders here are fierce quiet on this atrocity, but then again,
it did happen in Marxist Cuba.... so that's alright then I suppose

I hate to agree with you, but I agree with you. Cuba is a repressive police state. Anyone who says otherwise, or tries to blame the United States for it, is living in cloud-cuckoo land

It certainly is.

But if the hunger striker was on another part of Cuba, oh say Guantanamo, he would be force fed. He wouldn't even be allowed to hunger strike.

Now I know nothing would make you happier if that were to be the case but ehhh...nope, not this this time, sorry
but sure don't let that get in the way of another of your hateful, typically spineless and pathetic rants.

By the way, I was forwarded  a personal message that had been doing the rounds recently of the primary school playground
in an embarrassing collaborating effort amongst yourselves in an attempt to collectively snub me on here...
Feck it I cant begin to tell ye how out and out face palm type childish and immature this is

Un f**king believable the depths ye daisy chain makers will plunge to gain a footing on the anti US, anti Religion
anti Democracy, anti anything and anybody that doesn't toe the bleeding heart progressive liberal, anti establishment view point

Thought I was more isolated here than I am, didn't you muppet? ye have a mole in the ranks

Tell us, do you have to work hard to be as hateful a human being or was it bred in to ye?

Bred into him is my guess.

Tyrones own, say it aint so, dont tell me muppet man has a traitor in his wee gang, I bet he near shat his panties when he found out that his little group had a mole in it. 

Some of these eejits have little to be doing, imagine trying to blackball a poster for their political leanings? grow the fcuk up bitches.

So you have moved from straw man to blatent lies.

And I'd better admit it before the 3 geniuses announce it, yes I was on the grassy knoll.

[magickingdom]

Clarity ...sure FFS you'd have to remove the blinkers before taking it upon yourself to chastise anyone on Clarity!
Again... my point was, you would have been whacking us for day's with that big stick had this fella died under the USC's watch rather than in a military
hospital in Havana but then you knew that's what I was going at...  yet not a peep on human rights or anything else for that matter other than yet another
cowardly cheap shot at resurrecting Git mo which has absolutely no connection to this particular story whatsoever 

Did you happen to figure out who sang like a canary from your little daisy chain inner circle yet ?
Funk I'd honestly go into hiding if I was busted at something as cringe worthy and immature as that

It's in the same country ff.

If you and MagicKingdom come on here patronising us on abuse of prisoners expect to have your hypocrisy highlighted. You see any abuse of prisoners is wrong, even if the USA is responsible. Godot?

how was i patronising? and where is my hypocrisy? i simply posted an article on a hunger striker dying as it has happened in our own country. its not that forking hard to get your information right if your going to quote me - its printed right in front of you.

He died in Cuba! Get your own information right.

Your hypocrisy is in your blind defense of the actions of the US abroad while attacking their actions of their enemies even though they commit similar offenses.

keep up will you, i know he died in cuba i posted that in the opening post. when i said it HAS happened in our country i was referring to bobby sands et al. 

[muppet]

Clarity ...sure FFS you'd have to remove the blinkers before taking it upon yourself to chastise anyone on Clarity!
Again... my point was, you would have been whacking us for day's with that big stick had this fella died under the USC's watch rather than in a military
hospital in Havana but then you knew that's what I was going at...  yet not a peep on human rights or anything else for that matter other than yet another
cowardly cheap shot at resurrecting Git mo which has absolutely no connection to this particular story whatsoever 

Did you happen to figure out who sang like a canary from your little daisy chain inner circle yet ?
Funk I'd honestly go into hiding if I was busted at something as cringe worthy and immature as that

It's in the same country ff.

If you and MagicKingdom come on here patronising us on abuse of prisoners expect to have your hypocrisy highlighted. You see any abuse of prisoners is wrong, even if the USA is responsible. Godot?

how was i patronising? and where is my hypocrisy? i simply posted an article on a hunger striker dying as it has happened in our own country. its not that forking hard to get your information right if your going to quote me - its printed right in front of you.

He died in Cuba! Get your own information right.

Your hypocrisy is in your blind defense of the actions of the US abroad while attacking their actions of their enemies even though they commit similar offenses.

keep up will you, i know he died in cuba i posted that in the opening post. when i said it HAS happened in our country i was referring to bobby sands et al.

So you wanted this thread to be only about hunger striking prisoners which have no connection whatsoever to the USA? You really need to publish the rules if you expect people to follow them.

[deiseach]

Your hypocrisy is in your blind defense of the actions of the US abroad while attacking their actions of their enemies even though they commit similar offenses.

Cuba engages in torture
United States engages in enhanced interrogation

[muppet]

Your hypocrisy is in your blind defense of the actions of the US abroad while attacking their actions of their enemies even though they commit similar offenses.

Cuba engages in torture
United States engages in enhanced interrogation

Both ignore the Geneva Convention.

[magickingdom]

Clarity ...sure FFS you'd have to remove the blinkers before taking it upon yourself to chastise anyone on Clarity!
Again... my point was, you would have been whacking us for day's with that big stick had this fella died under the USC's watch rather than in a military
hospital in Havana but then you knew that's what I was going at...  yet not a peep on human rights or anything else for that matter other than yet another
cowardly cheap shot at resurrecting Git mo which has absolutely no connection to this particular story whatsoever 

Did you happen to figure out who sang like a canary from your little daisy chain inner circle yet ?
Funk I'd honestly go into hiding if I was busted at something as cringe worthy and immature as that

It's in the same country ff.

If you and MagicKingdom come on here patronising us on abuse of prisoners expect to have your hypocrisy highlighted. You see any abuse of prisoners is wrong, even if the USA is responsible. Godot?

how was i patronising? and where is my hypocrisy? i simply posted an article on a hunger striker dying as it has happened in our own country. its not that forking hard to get your information right if your going to quote me - its printed right in front of you.

He died in Cuba! Get your own information right.

Your hypocrisy is in your blind defense of the actions of the US abroad while attacking their actions of their enemies even though they commit similar offenses.

keep up will you, i know he died in cuba i posted that in the opening post. when i said it HAS happened in our country i was referring to bobby sands et al.

So you wanted this thread to be only about hunger striking prisoners which have no connection whatsoever to the USA? You really need to publish the rules if you expect people to follow them.

no, i saw an article in the irish times about a cuban prisoner who starved himself to death and posted it primarily because we've had hunger strikers die in ireland and we know how traumatic it can be. good old uncle sam never entered my head, but he obviously entered yours tho. i wonder why?

[Puckoon]

Interestingly - It'd be nice to actually hear some opinions from you children here instead of entrenched arguments due to hating one side or the other.

[boojangles]

Man there is a whole lot of hatred going on. Although it sounds like fun. Maybe I should get me a GAABoard enemy.
I'm from Cavan. Any takers?

[muppet]

Man there is a whole lot of hatred going on. Although it sounds like fun. Maybe I should get me a GAABoard enemy.
I'm from Cavan. Any takers?

Bound to be a few boys from the revenue here.

[muppet]

It's funny the high grounders here are fierce quiet on this atrocity, but then again,
it did happen in Marxist Cuba.... so that's alright then I suppose

I hate to agree with you, but I agree with you. Cuba is a repressive police state. Anyone who says otherwise, or tries to blame the United States for it, is living in cloud-cuckoo land

It certainly is.

But if the hunger striker was on another part of Cuba, oh say Guantanamo, he would be force fed. He wouldn't even be allowed to hunger strike.

Now I know nothing would make you happier if that were to be the case but ehhh...nope, not this this time, sorry
but sure don't let that get in the way of another of your hateful, typically spineless and pathetic rants.

By the way, I was forwarded  a personal message that had been doing the rounds recently of the primary school playground
in an embarrassing collaborating effort amongst yourselves in an attempt to collectively snub me on here...
Feck it I cant begin to tell ye how out and out face palm type childish and immature this is

Un f**king believable the depths ye daisy chain makers will plunge to gain a footing on the anti US, anti Religion
anti Democracy, anti anything and anybody that doesn't toe the bleeding heart progressive liberal, anti establishment view point

Thought I was more isolated here than I am, didn't you muppet? ye have a mole in the ranks

Tell us, do you have to work hard to be as hateful a human being or was it bred in to ye?

You are a liar Tyrone's Own.

If you, as you ridiculously claim, have a PM from me trying to organise a snub then publish it.

By the way have you notice the idiocy of claiming that I organised a snub, and then I don't snub you or the other couple of NeoCon loons? Not very bright at all. 

[glens abu]

Cuban Dies on Hunger Strike

Posted: 06 Mar 2010 01:13 AM PST



A debate has raged on many websites in relation to the death in a Cuban prison of a hunger striker on February 23rd last. Here is one example from the website of The World Association of International Studies (WAIS).

JOHN HEELAN: The Cuban dissident Orlando Zapata Tamayo has died in hospital as a result of his 85-day hunger strike. He started his strike as a protest against Cuban prison authorities refusing to allow him to wear white–a symbol of Cuban resistance.

Nearly 30 years ago, Bobby Sands, a Republican Irish dissident and member of the IRA, died from his hunger strike. He started his strike as a protest against Northern Irish prison authorities who insisted that he and his colleagues wear prison uniforms even though the latter claimed to be political prisoners (and Sands was an elected MP until Thatcher changed the law).

In December 2001, a memorial to Bobby Sands was unveiled in Havana, Cuba by the the IRA President, Gerry Adams, who was later greeted by Fidel Castro. Can we expect to see a similar memorial in Havana to Orlando Zapata Tomayo? If not, why not?

ALAIN de BENOIST replies: If I follow John's reasoning, the memorial to Bobby Sands having been unveiled in Havana, Orlando Zapata Tomayo's memorial should be erected in Ireland, not in Cuba! But I am afraid the comparison is not very significant. The great Bobby Sands was jailed for political reasons (I was extremely sad when he died). But, to my best knowledge, Orlando Zapata Tomayo, while being described since 2004 as a "prisoner of conscience" by Amnesty International, never had any political activities before his arrest. He was arrested several times for crimes without any political content. He mainly started his hunger strike to obtain a television and a cellular phone in his jail.

Anyway, Zapata Tamayo's death has been publicized all around the world as the death of a "victim of the Cuban dictatorship." The media does not give the same publicity to everything. The murder of Claudia Larissa Brizuela, member of the National Front of People's Resistance (FNRP), who was killed in Honduras on 24 February (one day after Zapata Tamayo's death), has not been publicized anywhere. The discovery, in last December, in a mass grave located in La Macarena (Colombia), of 2,000 bodies of trade unionists and peasant leaders murdered by paramilitary and special forces of the Colombian army was not publicised much either.

JOHN EIPPER (editor of  WAIS) comments: Alain's last point is unsettling for someone about to board a plane for Colombia. By the by, there won't be many WAIS postings tomorrow morning, as we must leave for the airport at 4:30 AM. When we're in Colombia (Cartagena, Santa Marta and Medellín), I'll see what I can find out about the murders at La Macarena.

[Hardy]

In December 2001, a memorial to Bobby Sands was unveiled in Havana, Cuba by the the IRA President, Gerry Adams

Surely some mistake?

[glens abu]

In December 2001, a memorial to Bobby Sands was unveiled in Havana, Cuba by the the IRA President, Gerry Adams

Surely some mistake?

I would think so