Adams' brother sought over alleged abuse

[ardmhachaabu]

I make that 3 paedophiles who were Provos who have been exposed in the last month or so

[Gaffer]

Looks like Fr Aiden media 'star' Troy doesn't come out of this too well. Family reckoned he wanted to sort it out between the father and family and keep police out of it. If there was a two page feature in it for Troy I'm sure he would have done a bit bettter 

Yea, seems to enjoy the limelight alright. Even when he was shipped off to France he still managed to get his head onto local TV here. He's another D'Arcy

[Minder]

Looks like Fr Aiden media 'star' Troy doesn't come out of this too well. Family reckoned he wanted to sort it out between the father and family and keep police out of it. If there was a two page feature in it for Troy I'm sure he would have done a bit bettter 

Yea, seems to enjoy the limelight alright. Even when he was shipped off to France he still managed to get his head onto local TV here. He's another D'Arcy

He has also just released a book.

[longrunsthefox]

Looks like Fr Aiden media 'star' Troy doesn't come out of this too well. Family reckoned he wanted to sort it out between the father and family and keep police out of it. If there was a two page feature in it for Troy I'm sure he would have done a bit bettter 

Yea, seems to enjoy the limelight alright. Even when he was shipped off to France he still managed to get his head onto local TV here. He's another D'Arcy

There was a two page feature of him in the Irish News (Vatican Times) with pics of him in front of the Eiffel Tower and on the Paris underground. Yeah-his two minutes of fame was addictive.

[Main Street]

Gerry Adams on RTE news at one (headline news interview) is telling the emotive story of the history of abuse in his family, starting with his father.

[pintsofguinness]

what's he saying? just reading about it on RTE, jeeze.

[orangeman]

what's he saying? just reading about it on RTE, jeeze.

Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams has revealed that his late-father subjected family members to emotional, physical and sexual abuse.

In an interview with RTÉ News, Mr Adams spoke about the issues and also called on his brother, Liam, to give himself up to the authorities.

Liam Adams is wanted by the PSNI so that he can answer charges of abuse against his daughter over a period of several years during her childhood.

AdvertisementGerry Adams urged his brother to go to the PSNI for the sake of his niece Áine, Liam's daughter.

Mr Adams explained that he only discovered when he was 50 years old that his father, Gerry Adams Senior, had also abused some of his own children.

The Sinn Féin president said his father was in denial for many years about his actions and he eventually died a lonely old man.

Mr Adams said that he had a personal dilema when his father's coffin was covered in the Tricolour, as he said he felt his father had 'besmerched' the flag.

He said the police was not involved because his father's victims did not want to contact them.

Mr Adams said all the abuse was 'historic' and no children were at risk when the abuse was eventually revealed.

Regarding Liam Adams, Gerry Adams said that there is no evidence that his brother has abused any children other than his own daughter.

Mr Adams said that he had tried to have his brother 'kicked out' of Sinn Féin.

He said that perhaps he should have taken more personal initiative in dealing with the issues but as all the victims were adults now, it was for them to decide to take legal action.

[Main Street]

what's he saying? just reading about it on RTE, jeeze.

It will be available for listening from the RTE web site. Worth listening to - a harrowing interview.

[pintsofguinness]

what's he saying? just reading about it on RTE, jeeze.

It will be available for listening from the RTE web site. Worth listening to - a harrowing interview.

Cant get that, not in Ireland.  Maybe it'll go up on youtube.

[Massey-135]

holy jesus boys, Adams just released this statement, doesn't say if he was abused himself:

*Nollaig 20 2009*

* *

*Statement by Gerry Adams on behalf of the Adams Family.*

I am issuing this statement on my own behalf and on behalf of my brothers
and sisters.

In the late 1990's we discovered that our father had been sexually,
emotionally and physically abusing members of our family.

This abuse happened over many years. This discovery and  the  abuse which
preceded  it  have had a devastating impact on our entire family.

We are still struggling to come to terms with what happened. We live with
the consequences every single day. We have been dealing with this with the
support of a number of professionals who have the expertise to deal with
these matters. We thank them for their help.

Abuse of any kind is horrendous but sexual abuse particularly of a child,  is
indescribably  wounding and heartbreaking.  Our family have debated for
some time whether we should publicise our father's abusive behaviour.

We do so now in the hope that in time, this will assist the victims and
survivors to come to terms with what happened and help them to move on from
these dreadful events.

All citizens need to be educated and children need to be listened to,
empowered and protected.

Many people in other families have suffered from abuse. Our family knows how
deeply hurtful and traumatic that can be. No one should have to deal with
abuse or its consequences in isolation.

Victims of abuse in our family are still, years later, recovering from the
trauma inflicted on us.

Our prayer is that everyone will be healed.  Most of us have grown in
strength with the help of other family members, partners and friends. We
know this will continue.  Our family are united.  We believe that there is a
way out of this awfulness.

We hope this knowledge can be of some help to other families who are in the
same situation. Anyone effected by these issues should contact The
Samaritans or any appropriate agency.

We would ask the media to give us some privacy, particularly over this
Christmas period.

Gerry Adams

CRIOCH.

[pintsofguinness]

shocking but very brave of them to publicise as there will be no doubt nasty people queuing up to put the boot in. 

He said he learned of it when he was 50 so that suggests he wasn't abused himself.  The more people coming forward and making it public whether it will be the adams' or victims of the priests etc it will encourage others to do the same.  It's just shocking how widespread it seems to have been.

[ardmhachaabu]

Adams might not have known about his brother but he knew about other paedophiles and rapists in Sinn Fein and the IRA.  On at least one occasion he knew that the perpetrator of such abuse had been shipped off to Donegal (where he still remains) so that he couldn't face prosecution or even charges.  This happened under orders from the local OC.  Before anyone says Gerry knew nothing, I happen to know for a fact he knew the full facts on that occasion.

[pintsofguinness]

Adams might not have known about his brother but he knew about other paedophiles and rapists in Sinn Fein and the IRA.  On at least one occasion he knew that the perpetrator of such abuse had been shipped off to Donegal (where he still remains) so that he couldn't face prosecution or even charges.  This happened under orders from the local OC.  Before anyone says Gerry knew nothing, I happen to know for a fact he knew the full facts on that occasion.

Why cant he be arrested by the guards and handed over?

[ardmhachaabu]

Adams might not have known about his brother but he knew about other paedophiles and rapists in Sinn Fein and the IRA.  On at least one occasion he knew that the perpetrator of such abuse had been shipped off to Donegal (where he still remains) so that he couldn't face prosecution or even charges.  This happened under orders from the local OC.  Before anyone says Gerry knew nothing, I happen to know for a fact he knew the full facts on that occasion.

Why cant he be arrested by the guards and handed over?

Good question and I don't have an answer for it

[Evil Genius]

Mr Adams said that he had tried to have his brother 'kicked out' of Sinn Féin.

He said that perhaps he should have taken more personal initiative in dealing with the issues but as all the victims were adults now, it was for them to decide to take legal action.

Never mind the poor girl (and others?) who were raped and sexually assaulted etc in this matter, you gotta feel sorry for the real victim in all this - aye, that's right, Gerry Adams himself.

You see, it turns out that not only is he the brother of a sc**bag, but he's the son of a sc**bag, too. Worse still, there's not anything he could have done, no nothing whatever.

For not only did he have no influence over his brother, but he had no influence over Sinn Fein either, eg to get his brother expelled from the party, since he (Gerry) was merely President of that organisation.

And, of course, he could never trust the RUC, nor could he even approach any members of any "community organisation" which might have been addressing such "anti-social behaviour" as child abuse, since there was no such organisation in existence and even if there had, Gerry wouldn't even have known anyone in it, never mind have had any sort of influence over them.

Of course, there were cases where publicly-spirited individuals would occasionally become so outraged by anti-social elements
in their area that they could not prevent themselves from spontaneously picking up guns, going to the flat of a 79 year old "paedophile" in the New Lodge and shooting him in both ankles and knees, so that he'd never be able to walk again, never mind abuse children.

But no doubt Gerry had no idea who was behind that, since it occurred in May 1998, therefore cannot have been eg the IRA, since they were on "ceasefire" at the time. Besides, as we all know, Gerry was never in the IRA. Unlike his father, Gerry. And his brother, Liam. And his uncle, Dominic. And half the other male member of the Adams (and Hannaway) families in Belfast at one time or another...

Indeed even if he had somehow had some sort of means of contacting these defenders of public morality administered their unique brand of "restorative justice", this would still have presented poor Gerry with a terrible dilemma. For on the one hand, the political party over which he had no real influence (SF) refused to condemn the gunmen. On the other, you couldn't even trust them to go the right flat, so that an entirely innocent man* might end up getting maimed and terrorised for what remained of his years on this earth....

Worst of all, there might even be people out there who conclude - entirely unfairly, of course - that if you are suspected in hardline Republican areas of being involved in what entirely unelected, faceless men deem to be "anti-social behaviour" like child rape, then you risk getting kneecapped (or worse) unless, of course, your surname is Adams...

P.S. POG stated in an eartlier post  that "nasty" people will use this as an excuse "to sink the boot in" on Gerry Adams. to which I would reply: "Too f**king right!"

After all, it's not as if he can send round a "punishment squad" from an organisation of which he was never a member, to deal with us anymore...

* - To save people the bother of Googling, I refer to John Brown:
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/03/05/world/no-end-to-violence-in-ulster-each-side-now-kills-its-own.html?pagewanted=all
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm199798/cmhansrd/vo980723/debtext/80723-09.htm )