Wee James Is The New Down Manager

[western exile]

Management Selection

This is a crucial juncture in our County's recent history and the wrong selection now could set back our senior team for many years.

The most successful counties over the last 15 years since our last triumph have all evolved towards a system whereby the coach is most seperate and distinct from the manager. The coach takes training, gets players fit and works on skills while the manager deals with strategy and crucially communication. The two front runners Pete and wee James have styles that unfortunately do not fall into one category or the other and are blends of both positions. I would even go further and say that Pete is not an intercounty manager per se but rather an excellent coach. However he is not a manager as he is a very poor person to person and group communicator. He is functional and factual like a GPS system!

Take a look at Dublin and Pat Gilroy. He seems to have gone further than anyone else in this intercounty "new manager" model. Upto his appointment, Tyrone (Harte and Tally) Armagh (Kernan and Grimley) Kerry (O'Connor and Finnegan) seemed to be the front runners in creating a new job description for an Inter county manager. They abdicated responsibility for fitness and basic coaching and involved most of their time in strategy, managing resource, PR, pyschology etc. Even the great Micko has been doing likewise over the last 5 or so years with Arthur French. But Gilroy's appointment went a step further. Pat Gilroy is a very successful Chief Executive of the Irish division of a French Multinational. He should not have the spare time to manage any county team let alone Dublin. But he brings a professionalism and strategy to the role. His sole task is to allocate resource and identify need and determine strategy. He has replicated his model for business success to the dressing room. He is most definitely not working out drills!!

We need to read the writing on the wall. We need to embrace the professional business like approaches to management and organisational development and motivation. Simply appointing an ex manager or ex player is not enough. ...

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Yesterday did not help your case much here.  That "model" has yet to be proven. Business managerial skills may be a good asset, but An Bainisteoir needs to know quite a lot about football too!

[Lecale2]

Joe Kernan has been approached.

[Cúig huaire]

Joe Kernan has been approached.

[Lecale2]

Joe Kernan has been approached.

It's true! Negotiations broke down when the County Board couldn't meet his food demands.

[Trevor Hill]

Heard Mickey Morans name mentioned for the Down job over the weekend, slightly more credible than Big Joe, but I would seriously doubt it.

[Nailed On]

Heard Mickey Morans name mentioned for the Down job over the weekend, slightly more credible than Big Joe, but I would seriously doubt it.

You never know, he is a bit of a journey man.

[Farrandeelin]

I thought he committed himself to Laythrum for another year?

[DCR]

Heard Mickey Morans name mentioned for the Down job over the weekend, slightly more credible than Big Joe, but I would seriously doubt it.

And John Morrison AAGGGHAAAAA!!!!!

Also as a Tyrone man I was wondering what anyone from Derry could teach Down about football

[wobbller]

Just home this evening  from a week hols abroad, lots of surprises in weekend championships

With 4 more games still to be decided and will be added on this prediction league.

1   13   Bacon
2   13   bridgegael
3   12   DownFanatic
4   12   Dubh driocht
5   12   dunrumite
6   12   fred the ref
7   12   general
8   12   goalswingames
9   12   Irelands32
10   12   Johnnie99
11   12   Leo
12   12   minus15
13   12   True Blue
14   12   western exile
15   11   An Cloch Scoilte
16   11   Blue Island
17   11   Bredaghgael86
18   11   BRIDGE LAD
19   11   Cloneman
20   11   D45
21   11   Down6061689194
22   11   eyeswideopen
23   11   Green + Gold
24   11   meatsy86
25   11   Mid Down Gael
26   11   mourenrambler
27   11   Mourne Rover
28   11   Niall Quinn
29   11   off the laces
30   11   souljaboy
31   11   southdown
32   11   Square Ball
33   11   T O Hare
34   11   Umpire
35   11   wobbller
36   10   Bitta-Banter
37   10   Fitroyalty
38   10   Islandboy
39   10   marsbarkid
40   10   NO1
41   10   The Worker
42   10   TheClutch
43   10   thewobbler
44   10   too long ref
45   9   behind the wire
46   9   centre 3/4s
47   9   dundroma
48   9   Fender
49   9   goldenyears
50   9   lfdown2
51   9   miss mess
52   9   Statto-gael
53   9   Trevor Hill
54   9   waitingforsam
55   8   amallon
56   8   Brick Tamlin
57   8   dodgy umpire
58   8   passedit
59   8   Supersub

   Can we not do a competition similar to the Championship Prediction Table for who everyone thinks should be the new Manager?

[wobbller]

Just home this evening  from a week hols abroad, lots of surprises in weekend championships

With 4 more games still to be decided and will be added on this prediction league.

1   13   Bacon
2   13   bridgegael
3   12   DownFanatic
4   12   Dubh driocht
5   12   dunrumite
6   12   fred the ref
7   12   general
8   12   goalswingames
9   12   Irelands32
10   12   Johnnie99
11   12   Leo
12   12   minus15
13   12   True Blue
14   12   western exile
15   11   An Cloch Scoilte
16   11   Blue Island
17   11   Bredaghgael86
18   11   BRIDGE LAD
19   11   Cloneman
20   11   D45
21   11   Down6061689194
22   11   eyeswideopen
23   11   Green + Gold
24   11   meatsy86
25   11   Mid Down Gael
26   11   mourenrambler
27   11   Mourne Rover
28   11   Niall Quinn
29   11   off the laces
30   11   souljaboy
31   11   southdown
32   11   Square Ball
33   11   T O Hare
34   11   Umpire
35   11   wobbller
36   10   Bitta-Banter
37   10   Fitroyalty
38   10   Islandboy
39   10   marsbarkid
40   10   NO1
41   10   The Worker
42   10   TheClutch
43   10   thewobbler
44   10   too long ref
45   9   behind the wire
46   9   centre 3/4s
47   9   dundroma
48   9   Fender
49   9   goldenyears
50   9   lfdown2
51   9   miss mess
52   9   Statto-gael
53   9   Trevor Hill
54   9   waitingforsam
55   8   amallon
56   8   Brick Tamlin
57   8   dodgy umpire
58   8   passedit
59   8   Supersub

   Can we not do a competition similar to the Championship Prediction Table for who everyone thinks should be the new Manager?

  Eugene Mc Kenna.

[johnneycool]

Can I add a few comments about jingo??   

[Lecale2]

Can I add a few comments about jingo??   

Does he want to stay on? There's a 5 man committee considering all the hurling mangers posts.

[johnneycool]

Can I add a few comments about jingo??   

Does he want to stay on? There's a 5 man committee considering all the hurling mangers posts.

And who are they?

[Lecale2]

Can I add a few comments about jingo??   

Does he want to stay on? There's a 5 man committee considering all the hurling mangers posts.

And who are they?

Kevin Bell, Seamus Ennis, Gerry Mullan, Mickey Keenan & me.

[johnneycool]

Can I add a few comments about jingo??   

Does he want to stay on? There's a 5 man committee considering all the hurling mangers posts.

And who are they?

Kevin Bell, Seamus Ennis, Gerry Mullan, Mickey Keenan & me.

I trust some of you will take time to talk to some of the more considered of the playing panel.