Armagh management :Paddy O'Rourke!!!

Started by armaghniac, July 21, 2009, 05:35:51 PM

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armaghniac

A minor title 18 years ago is feck all use in determining your prospects for the future.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Armamike

Quote from: qz on September 08, 2009, 11:24:57 PM
Quote from: Armamike on September 03, 2009, 09:34:46 PM
The old chestnut thrown at Armagh supporters a couple of years back was the lack of new talent coming through. Since 2004 Armagh underage teams (minor and under 21) have been very competitive:

2004 Under 21 Ulster and AI winners
2005 Minor Ulster winners
2007 Under 21 Ulster winners (beat by Cork, AI winners by a point in the semis)
2009 Under 21 Ulster finalists; Under 18 Ulster winners and AI finalist

Reasons to be positive.

one underage all Ireland title in 50 yrs is hardly a sign of new talent coming through. You Armagh lads need to get real. What you're listing might win a provincial title or two but no more.
Look north to Tyrone where there are 8 minor/u 21 all irelands in the last 18 years  to deliver 3 sams. A minor win this year would be a step in the right direction but only a step.

Aye and if you know your football history as well as you make out you'd also be keenly aware that Armagh's AI win and other many successes over a decade was based on a lot slimmer pickings from underage success than that list i've given above.  We tend to make the most of what underage talent there is available to us.
That's just, like your opinion man.

Logan

Quote from: Armamike on September 09, 2009, 12:05:37 AM
Quote from: qz on September 08, 2009, 11:24:57 PM
Quote from: Armamike on September 03, 2009, 09:34:46 PM
The old chestnut thrown at Armagh supporters a couple of years back was the lack of new talent coming through. Since 2004 Armagh underage teams (minor and under 21) have been very competitive:

2004 Under 21 Ulster and AI winners
2005 Minor Ulster winners
2007 Under 21 Ulster winners (beat by Cork, AI winners by a point in the semis)
2009 Under 21 Ulster finalists; Under 18 Ulster winners and AI finalist

Reasons to be positive.

one underage all Ireland title in 50 yrs is hardly a sign of new talent coming through. You Armagh lads need to get real. What you're listing might win a provincial title or two but no more.
Look north to Tyrone where there are 8 minor/u 21 all irelands in the last 18 years  to deliver 3 sams. A minor win this year would be a step in the right direction but only a step.

Aye and if you know your football history as well as you make out you'd also be keenly aware that Armagh's AI win and other many successes over a decade was based on a lot slimmer pickings from underage success than that list i've given above.  We tend to make the most of what underage talent there is available to us.
Correct

Rawhide

Quote from: Armamike on September 08, 2009, 08:50:34 PM
Quote from: man in black on September 08, 2009, 11:28:45 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on September 08, 2009, 08:05:27 AM
I think Justy might be a decent choice, however it'll be important that he gets the right people around him!

I think he would be an excellent choice also. A lad that couldnt play football put in charge of a county going nowhere fast. A marriage made in heaven.

Sounds like Micky Harte and Tyrone in 2002.

Very badly misinformed. Harte got a team that had just won a National League, and much more importantly the Ulster Championship under Mc Rory and Mc Kenna. They were hardly going no where
cccc is a true supporter lol

lowball



Brick Tamlin

My Money is on wee james and Paddy O Rourke team.

naka


qz

Quote from: Logan on September 09, 2009, 12:45:38 AM
Quote from: Armamike on September 09, 2009, 12:05:37 AM
Quote from: qz on September 08, 2009, 11:24:57 PM
Quote from: Armamike on September 03, 2009, 09:34:46 PM
The old chestnut thrown at Armagh supporters a couple of years back was the lack of new talent coming through. Since 2004 Armagh underage teams (minor and under 21) have been very competitive:

2004 Under 21 Ulster and AI winners
2005 Minor Ulster winners
2007 Under 21 Ulster winners (beat by Cork, AI winners by a point in the semis)
2009 Under 21 Ulster finalists; Under 18 Ulster winners and AI finalist

Reasons to be positive.

one underage all Ireland title in 50 yrs is hardly a sign of new talent coming through. You Armagh lads need to get real. What you're listing might win a provincial title or two but no more.
Look north to Tyrone where there are 8 minor/u 21 all irelands in the last 18 years  to deliver 3 sams. A minor win this year would be a step in the right direction but only a step.

Aye and if you know your football history as well as you make out you'd also be keenly aware that Armagh's AI win and other many successes over a decade was based on a lot slimmer pickings from underage success than that list i've given above.  We tend to make the most of what underage talent there is available to us.
Correct

Sam Maguire wins is the only measure of success for the top counties these days. armagh have made the most of their slim pickings only once in history .We outside the county await to see if the latest underage teams will be made the most of. The right choice in manager will also be critical.  Could anyone suggest any collective reasons why Grimley, Kernan & mcGeeny are all avoiding this opportunity then given the reasons to be positive?

naka

Quote from: qz on September 09, 2009, 01:18:46 PM
Quote from: Logan on September 09, 2009, 12:45:38 AM
Quote from: Armamike on September 09, 2009, 12:05:37 AM
Quote from: qz on September 08, 2009, 11:24:57 PM
Quote from: Armamike on September 03, 2009, 09:34:46 PM
The old chestnut thrown at Armagh supporters a couple of years back was the lack of new talent coming through. Since 2004 Armagh underage teams (minor and under 21) have been very competitive:

2004 Under 21 Ulster and AI winners
2005 Minor Ulster winners
2007 Under 21 Ulster winners (beat by Cork, AI winners by a point in the semis)
2009 Under 21 Ulster finalists; Under 18 Ulster winners and AI finalist

Reasons to be positive.

one underage all Ireland title in 50 yrs is hardly a sign of new talent coming through. You Armagh lads need to get real. What you're listing might win a provincial title or two but no more.
Look north to Tyrone where there are 8 minor/u 21 all irelands in the last 18 years  to deliver 3 sams. A minor win this year would be a step in the right direction but only a step.

Aye and if you know your football history as well as you make out you'd also be keenly aware that Armagh's AI win and other many successes over a decade was based on a lot slimmer pickings from underage success than that list i've given above.  We tend to make the most of what underage talent there is available to us.
Correct

Sam Maguire wins is the only measure of success for the top counties these days. armagh have made the most of their slim pickings only once in history .We outside the county await to see if the latest underage teams will be made the most of. The right choice in manager will also be critical.  Could anyone suggest any collective reasons why Grimley, Kernan & mcGeeny are all avoiding this opportunity then given the reasons to be positive?
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Real1995

Quote from: qz on September 09, 2009, 01:18:46 PM
Could anyone suggest any collective reasons why Grimley, Kernan & mcGeeny are all avoiding this opportunity then given the reasons to be positive?

With the exception of Big Joe...The other two boys will not touch the Armagh job until certain members of the CB leave...its as simple as that...
Nice guys always finish second!

under the bar

Any word on an outcome to this GAA comedy side-show?

Armamike

Quote from: Rawhide on September 09, 2009, 09:58:57 AM
Quote from: Armamike on September 08, 2009, 08:50:34 PM
Quote from: man in black on September 08, 2009, 11:28:45 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on September 08, 2009, 08:05:27 AM
I think Justy might be a decent choice, however it'll be important that he gets the right people around him!

I think he would be an excellent choice also. A lad that couldnt play football put in charge of a county going nowhere fast. A marriage made in heaven.

Sounds like Micky Harte and Tyrone in 2002.

Very badly misinformed. Harte got a team that had just won a National League, and much more importantly the Ulster Championship under Mc Rory and Mc Kenna. They were hardly going no where

Anyone who watched Tyrone's comical performance against Sligo in 2002 could see that that team were going nowhere fast under Art and Eugene.  The powers that be in Tyrone knew that, that's why they shafted the two lads and brought in Harte. It was brought into sharp focus round about late September that year.

That's just, like your opinion man.

The Pundit

#568
Inside info that Grimbo is back in the frame for the armagh job!

Karl Kennedy

Quote from: The Pundit on September 09, 2009, 11:11:39 PM
Inside info that Grimbo is back in the frame for the armagh job!

Watching UTV Pundit were ya? ;)