Ulster Semifinal- Derry v Tyrone 21/6/09 Casement Park

[SidelineKick]

Yip and bottom line only for the dose of a referee he wouldnt have got the line, but it was a yellow card. 

For Cavanagh or McGuckin?
I agree, both probably deserved yellows.

By the way, it was hardly a fine point from Cavanagh... he could have been blown up twice for over-carrying.

Aye, and if your granny had balls she'd be yer granda

No she woudln't. She'dstill be his granny, just with a set of balls.

[ziggysego]

Yip and bottom line only for the dose of a referee he wouldnt have got the line, but it was a yellow card. 

For Cavanagh or McGuckin?
I agree, both probably deserved yellows.

By the way, it was hardly a fine point from Cavanagh... he could have been blown up twice for over-carrying.

Aye, and if your granny had balls she'd be yer granda

No she woudln't. She'dstill be his granny, just with a set of balls.

What kind of scary ass Grannys do you have in Derry Sideline?

[tyssam5]

Yip and bottom line only for the dose of a referee he wouldnt have got the line, but it was a yellow card. 

For Cavanagh or McGuckin?
I agree, both probably deserved yellows.

By the way, it was hardly a fine point from Cavanagh... he could have been blown up twice for over-carrying.

Aye, and if your granny had balls she'd be yer granda

And if Derry had 2 more All-Irelands they'd have as many as Tyrone.

[mylestheslasher]

What about the 100 years before that, did you do any betting from the heart back then? I suppose betting, just like football in Tyrone was born in 2003

Do you always have to be so negative?! 

I'm positive Derry will win - go on and bet on them, It'll ease the pain when ye lose.

If anyone sees a houseless Cavan man wandering the laneways and byways, open up your hearts (and your door), he's a man badly in need of solace 

Feck Tír Eoghain anyway, had €20 on them to win by between 4 and 6 points, that'll teach me to be so negative 

It was all part of a cunning plan that I haven't quite finished yet. Put the house on Cavan by 3 against Antrim and then to hammer the shite out of Tyrone. The bookies may require you to put a definition on "beat the shite out of" so maybe say Cavan by 10 points. You'll probably only get evens on that its such a certainty.

All insane joking aside, I couldn't believe how crap Derry were. I put a lot of it down to overkill on tactics. Football is a simple enough game. Derry had the players  to trouble Tyrone but instead spent all their time trying to stop Tyrone instead of playing to their own strengths. Embarrasing for Derry I think and I honestly think Antrim or Cavan will give Tyrone a better game in the final, although I can't possibly see how Tyrone could be bet.

[SidelineKick]

Yip and bottom line only for the dose of a referee he wouldnt have got the line, but it was a yellow card. 

For Cavanagh or McGuckin?
I agree, both probably deserved yellows.

By the way, it was hardly a fine point from Cavanagh... he could have been blown up twice for over-carrying.

Aye, and if your granny had balls she'd be yer granda

And if Derry had 2 more All-Irelands they'd have as many as Tyrone.

And if Tyrone had 32 (THIRTY TWO) more All-Ireland's they'd have as many as Kerry 

Ziggy I'm not saying my granny has a set of balls. Although I've never checked 

[talktothehand]

Yip and bottom line only for the dose of a referee he wouldnt have got the line, but it was a yellow card. 

For Cavanagh or McGuckin?
I agree, both probably deserved yellows.

By the way, it was hardly a fine point from Cavanagh... he could have been blown up twice for over-carrying.

Aye, and if your granny had balls she'd be yer granda

And if Derry had 2 more All-Irelands they'd have as many as Tyrone.

And if Tyrone had 32 (THIRTY TWO) more All-Ireland's they'd have as many as Kerry 

Ziggy I'm not saying my granny has a set of balls. Although I've never checked 

and if kerry held SAM at the minute they'd be tyrone!

[SidelineKick]

Yip and bottom line only for the dose of a referee he wouldnt have got the line, but it was a yellow card. 

For Cavanagh or McGuckin?
I agree, both probably deserved yellows.

By the way, it was hardly a fine point from Cavanagh... he could have been blown up twice for over-carrying.

Aye, and if your granny had balls she'd be yer granda

And if Derry had 2 more All-Irelands they'd have as many as Tyrone.

And if Tyrone had 32 (THIRTY TWO) more All-Ireland's they'd have as many as Kerry 

Ziggy I'm not saying my granny has a set of balls. Although I've never checked 

and if kerry held SAM at the minute they'd be tyrone!

Again, no they woudln't. They'd still be Kerry except they'd have SAM.

If some people had brains they'd be dangerous!

[screenmachine]

Yip and bottom line only for the dose of a referee he wouldnt have got the line, but it was a yellow card. 

For Cavanagh or McGuckin?
I agree, both probably deserved yellows.

By the way, it was hardly a fine point from Cavanagh... he could have been blown up twice for over-carrying.

Aye, and if your granny had balls she'd be yer granda

And if Derry had 2 more All-Irelands they'd have as many as Tyrone.

And if Tyrone had 32 (THIRTY TWO) more All-Ireland's they'd have as many as Kerry 

Ziggy I'm not saying my granny has a set of balls. Although I've never checked 

and if kerry held SAM at the minute they'd be tyrone!

Again, no they woudln't. They'd still be Kerry except they'd have SAM.

If some people had brains they'd be dangerous!

[nrico2006]

All insane joking aside, I couldn't believe how crap Derry were. I put a lot of it down to overkill on tactics. Football is a simple enough game. Derry had the players  to trouble Tyrone but instead spent all their time trying to stop Tyrone instead of playing to their own strengths. Embarrasing for Derry I think and I honestly think Antrim or Cavan will give Tyrone a better game in the final, although I can't possibly see how Tyrone could be bet.

I believe that tactics are important but to say Derry lost as they focused on keeping Tyrone from playing is crap.  Derry went out with 15 players, each new their personal and collective objective was to win and to do that the defenders try and stop their men from scoring and the forwards try and score - do you really think that the Derry players were trying to do anything other than this?

[talktothehand]

just to point out the the derry fans that cassidy being in his first year is no excuse. both mickey harte and big joe K won SAM in their first year!!

[ziggysego]

just to point out the the derry fans that cassidy being in his first year is no excuse. both mickey harte and big joe K won SAM in their first year!!

In fairness, Mickey had the most of them lads from minor, u21s to seniors. It took him a long time to win the All-Ireland at minor stage with them set of lads. Can't comment on Joe though.

[imtommygunn]

They were ulster champions who took Kerry to a semi final replay and should have beat them before he came along. Also he had the cross al ireland winners. So both had a much better platform to build on. IMO.

[screenexile]

All insane joking aside, I couldn't believe how crap Derry were. I put a lot of it down to overkill on tactics. Football is a simple enough game. Derry had the players  to trouble Tyrone but instead spent all their time trying to stop Tyrone instead of playing to their own strengths. Embarrasing for Derry I think and I honestly think Antrim or Cavan will give Tyrone a better game in the final, although I can't possibly see how Tyrone could be bet.

I believe that tactics are important but to say Derry lost as they focused on keeping Tyrone from playing is crap.  Derry went out with 15 players, each new their personal and collective objective was to win and to do that the defenders try and stop their men from scoring and the forwards try and score - do you really think that the Derry players were trying to do anything other than this?

In all honesty I think this is a big reason as to why Derry didn't perform. They gave Tyrone too much respect. I mean GO'K's attacking influence was curtailed from keeping tabs on Cavanagh for the whole game, Diver the same on McGinley and Sean Leo McGoldrick and Barry McGuigan both are known for being attacking footballers but seemed to get too bogged down in their defensive duties.

I'm not saying had these lads been on top form we would have won but I would like to think it would have made for a better performance from our lads. Also add in the fact that Fergal is the main leader of that team and the man everyone looks to and I think his presence would have lifted our game as well.

I'm disappointed with the manner of our performance at this stage but I am confident that the lads will learn a lot from it and that it will improve for the next game.

[bellaghy_lad]

derry didnt want to win. its just to raise the odds in the bookies. clean sweep to the all ireland now for us boys. get your money out!

[rrhf]

No its case of derry men falling out and hating each other, half the county want the other half to feck away off into Tyrone whiilst the other half want that half to slide into the sea.  For a serious GAA county yes are too embittered unable to see above yer own club boundaries with a county board that are a joke.  If yes dont want the Balinderry men we'll take them.