Doire v Mhuineacháin 24/5/09

Gabriel_Hurl · May 27, 2009, 02:58:56 PM

Quote from: peterquaife on May 27, 2009, 11:20:54 AM
"ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!!??"

Any gael confirm the date and time for the Derry v Armagh / Tyrone semi-final? Have heard both a Sunday afternoon and Saturday evening throw being bandied about
cheers

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/the_championship/7840342.stm

lynchbhoy · May 27, 2009, 04:42:46 PM

After all the controversy Monaghan are putting out a less aggressive side for the qualifiers:
Probable Monaghan team for the qualifiers

Player (Club side)

Darth Vader (Death star)

G. Bush Sr (NRA)
Martin johnson ( Tir Chonnail gaels)
Ricky Hatton (Manchester Gaels)

G. Bush Jr (NRA)
Hunter Hearst Helmsley (WWF Rangers)
paul gascoine (AA)

Roy Keane (Langer GFC)
Steve Collins (St Saviours GFC)

Sauron (St. Mordors)
O. Bin Laden (leading the attack - naturally)
Joe o'reilly (Joy 'Gaels')

The Undertaker (Castleblaney faughs)
Davy tweed (Balymena assassins)
Rory woods (scotstown)

Main Street · May 27, 2009, 05:35:19 PM

That's not funny Lynchboy.

You know what would be funny, us getting a home draw against Derry in the 2nd round of the qualifiers.
But if Derry will find that pot of pure football at the end of the rainbow then
any team travelling to face us better have a few toilets on their coach.

lynchbhoy · May 27, 2009, 05:41:53 PM

Quote from: Main Street on May 27, 2009, 05:35:19 PM
That's not funny Lynchboy.
You know what would be funny, us getting a home draw against Derry in the 2nd round of the qualifiers.
But if Derry will find that pot of pure football at the end of the rainbow then
any team travelling to face us better have a few toilets on their coach.

the manager has to sort that kind of reaction/retaliation out of the Derry side.
for example all teams will target Fergal Doc to try and get him sent off form now on...

If Derry can learn to channel ALL their aggression into playing football and responding with hard tackling and not resorting to fighting/aggressor/retialiation then they will be a long way down the right road.

Monaghan will continue to cause problems for most teams and can still go well this season in the qualifiers.

Armamike · May 27, 2009, 06:09:54 PM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on May 27, 2009, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 27, 2009, 05:35:19 PM
That's not funny Lynchboy.
You know what would be funny, us getting a home draw against Derry in the 2nd round of the qualifiers.
But if Derry will find that pot of pure football at the end of the rainbow then
any team travelling to face us better have a few toilets on their coach.
the manager has to sort that kind of reaction/retaliation out of the Derry side.
for example all teams will target Fergal Doc to try and get him sent off form now on...

If Derry can learn to channel ALL their aggression into playing football and responding with hard tackling and not resorting to fighting/aggressor/retialiation then they will be a long way down the right road.

Spot on. There's a big difference between physicality and indiscipline. Derry walked a fine line on Sunday. Teams can get easily sidetracked into all the niggly stuff and lose focus. Better teams than Monaghan would have punished Derry.

Main Street · May 27, 2009, 06:23:02 PM

Monaghan have a naturally aspirated aggression, Derry looked like they had swallowed the wrong type of mushroom, the fly agaric ones.

Maguire01 · May 27, 2009, 07:23:11 PM

Quote from: lynchbhoy on May 27, 2009, 04:42:46 PM
After all the controversy Monaghan are putting out a less aggressive side for the qualifiers:
Probable Monaghan team for the qualifiers

Player (Club side)

Darth Vader (Death star)

G. Bush Sr (NRA)
Martin johnson ( Tir Chonnail gaels)
Ricky Hatton (Manchester Gaels)

G. Bush Jr (NRA)
Hunter Hearst Helmsley (WWF Rangers)
paul gascoine (AA)

Roy Keane (Langer GFC)
Steve Collins (St Saviours GFC)

Sauron (St. Mordors)
O. Bin Laden (leading the attack - naturally)
Joe o'reilly (Joy 'Gaels')

The Undertaker (Castleblaney faughs)
Davy tweed (Balymena assassins)
Rory woods (scotstown)

Rory Woods isn't Scotstown.

Kickboxer · May 27, 2009, 07:27:43 PM

your ma is Scotstown

Oakleafer93 · May 27, 2009, 07:40:41 PM

Quote from: Main Street on May 27, 2009, 06:23:02 PM
Monaghan have a naturally aspirated aggression, Derry looked like they had swallowed the wrong type of mushroom, the fly agaric ones.

Does this mean they are naturally dirty whereas Derry had to work on it it a bit?

saffron sam2 · May 27, 2009, 07:51:11 PM

Quote from: Armamike on May 27, 2009, 06:09:54 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on May 27, 2009, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 27, 2009, 05:35:19 PM
That's not funny Lynchboy.
You know what would be funny, us getting a home draw against Derry in the 2nd round of the qualifiers.
But if Derry will find that pot of pure football at the end of the rainbow then
any team travelling to face us better have a few toilets on their coach.
the manager has to sort that kind of reaction/retaliation out of the Derry side.
for example all teams will target Fergal Doc to try and get him sent off form now on...

If Derry can learn to channel ALL their aggression into playing football and responding with hard tackling and not resorting to fighting/aggressor/retialiation then they will be a long way down the right road.

Spot on. There's a big difference between physicality and indiscipline. Derry walked a fine line on Sunday. Teams can get easily sidetracked into all the niggly stuff and lose focus. Better teams than Monaghan would have punished Derry.

Better teams than Monaghan wouldn't have felt the need to adopt Monaghan-esque thuggery against Derry (sure in the knowledge that they (Kerry, Galway, Dublin etc.) could beat the London boys by playing genuine football) and it is likely that, outside of a game against the Bushmen Tyrone, Derry wouldn't have felt the need to play like they did on Sunday.

Maguire01 · May 27, 2009, 08:21:49 PM

Quote from: saffron sam2 on May 27, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
Quote from: Armamike on May 27, 2009, 06:09:54 PM
Quote from: lynchbhoy on May 27, 2009, 05:41:53 PM
Quote from: Main Street on May 27, 2009, 05:35:19 PM
That's not funny Lynchboy.
You know what would be funny, us getting a home draw against Derry in the 2nd round of the qualifiers.
But if Derry will find that pot of pure football at the end of the rainbow then
any team travelling to face us better have a few toilets on their coach.
the manager has to sort that kind of reaction/retaliation out of the Derry side.
for example all teams will target Fergal Doc to try and get him sent off form now on...

If Derry can learn to channel ALL their aggression into playing football and responding with hard tackling and not resorting to fighting/aggressor/retialiation then they will be a long way down the right road.

Spot on. There's a big difference between physicality and indiscipline. Derry walked a fine line on Sunday. Teams can get easily sidetracked into all the niggly stuff and lose focus. Better teams than Monaghan would have punished Derry.

Better teams than Monaghan wouldn't have felt the need to adopt Monaghan-esque thuggery against Derry (sure in the knowledge that they (Kerry, Galway, Dublin etc.) could beat the London boys by playing genuine football) and it is likely that, outside of a game against the Bushmen Tyrone, Derry wouldn't have felt the need to play like they did on Sunday.

Are you saying that Derry aren't a better team than Monaghan then?

saffron sam2 · May 27, 2009, 08:35:21 PM

No.

Maguire01 · May 27, 2009, 10:04:35 PM

Really? You're saying that better teams than Monaghan wouldn't adopt this 'thuggery'. But Derry did. Therefore, by your argument, they aren't a better team than Monaghan.

cadhlancian · May 27, 2009, 10:21:00 PM

always love to hear Spillane spouting his muck! If any of you watch the great Kerry team of the 70s/80s I reckon Spillane spent most of his time in his own teams full and half back lines, before foraging forward , much like the way the current Tyrone team play and much like a certain Brian dooher, and he reckons Monaghans Halfforwardswere playing too deep!! Also talks about the quality and standard of current games, recently watched a clip of the Bould Pat "trying " to kick a point from about 16 yards out in front of the post in a munster final ( mid 70s), the ball dropped SHORT into Billy Morgans hands , who then proceeded to drop it after his own full back ran into him and the ball finnished in the net. ( I think this is correct, working on memory) anyways Pats full of mad dogs dung

saffron sam2 · May 27, 2009, 10:44:14 PM

Quote from: Maguire01 on May 27, 2009, 10:04:35 PM
Really? You're saying that better teams than Monaghan wouldn't adopt this 'thuggery'. But Derry did. Therefore, by your argument, they aren't a better team than Monaghan.

Ah, I get it. A very twisted and ultimately flawed logic. You left out the important gambit "against Derry" from your post, which should now read "You're saying that better teams than Monaghan wouldn't adopt this 'thuggery' against Derry. But Derry did.". Derry didn't adopt this thuggery against Derry, that is physically impossible and negates any point you're trying to make.

Better teams than Monaghan, like those I outlined above haven't adopted Monaghan-esque thuggery against Derry. If Derry were to play against any of those, the Oakleafers would be fairly safe to assume that Dublin, Kerry, Galway etc. will attempt to play football. If Derry were to play Monaghan again, it is an even safer assumption that Monaghan will revert to the disgraceful tactics honed under the McEnaney / McElkennon axis. Derry will play football in the correct spirit when it is possible (there is nothing in Cass's CV to suggest otherwise); if referees and the GAA hierarchy do not protect them against Monaghan, then they are entitled, as they did on Sunday, to ensure that they create the circumstances allowing pure football to be played.

In such circumstances,they will prove that they are indeed a much better side than the Farneymen.

Hope this helps.