Tommy Mc Guigan Ban

Started by Oakleafer93, April 01, 2009, 11:20:43 PM

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RedandGreenSniper

Didn't see the Monaghan instances so I won't comment on those. There is a question of consistency perhaps but that can't be used to vindicate Tommy McGuigan.

First of all Sean Marty Lockhart is no angel, he did his best to embroil Sean Cavanagh into a fight in the goalmouth (Cavanagh's composure in that situation should have been highlighted as an example of how players should rise above goading and provocation - I thought he showed real class).

Secondly I've never seen Tommy McGuigan act the pup before and he seems like a decent sort.

But you can't sink your knee into someone's groin like he did and expect to get away with it. Especially when it is completely off the ball (there is a tendency in the GAA to let players off if a tackle is bad but the ball is somewhere in the picture, not right maybe, but when there's no ball involved at all there is little enough defence - perhaps this partly explains the Monaghan incidents, and a lot of the cynical dropping of knees we've seen in recent years). He was ticked for I don't know what because if the referee saw it right, he was gone with a straight red. Four weeks is fair enough. McMenamin was potentially going to receive more because his was a bit more premeditated and he also acted the bollix after the game).

I really hope there is no appeal from Tyrone either, because the focus for Mickey Harte should not be moaning about inconsistencies, but getting his players to stop losing their discipline, it could be very costly yet in a big championship game where all the appeals in the world won't bring his team back into the race for Sam.
Mayo for Sam! Just don't ask me for a year

Maguire01

Quote from: Tyrone Dreamer on April 02, 2009, 05:49:09 PM
Far from perfect, its a complete joke if Tommy McGuigan gets done. At least 3 worse incidents were caught on camera in the Monaghan game and not another word was said about it. Its always interesting to note the difference of posters reactions on here to. You know rightly if McGuigan gets done he and Ricey have been treated differently because of the county they're from.
Many would be of the opinion that a strike to the groin is more serious/undesirable than most incidents - and a pattern that has to be stopped before it becomes commonplace. Tackles in the course of play will never attract the same attention and scrutiny as such 'off the ball' incidents.

Mike Sheehy

QuoteI really hope there is no appeal from Tyrone either, because the focus for Mickey Harte should not be moaning about inconsistencies, but getting his players to stop losing their discipline,

Harte tacitly supports this behavior. It happens too often to be down to the players only. They wouldnt do it if they felt they faced any censure from Harte.

Oakleafer93

Fergal Doherty was done in the Derry v Donegal Mash for lashing out with his hand, stayed on the pitch at the time and no one questioned the video trial that was to follow. If you ask the Admin maybe he could dig the thread about it out of the archives and you can see what was said about it. Fergal got 4 weeks and rightly so because the crime fits the time.

In last years league several Meath and Dublin were suspended following trial by video footage.

In last years championship, Collie Moran of Dublin, was before the CCCC, so too was Kevin Reilly of Meath, and Also Martin Cole of Down (who was subsequently banned), ironically when playing Tyrone...maybe Davey Harte 'over exaggerated it' as some are suggesting with SML... And how can we forget the most high profile story of last summer almost eclipsing Tyrone's win, one Mr Paul Galvin and the diving notebook(!) Paul Finlay, Gary Mc Quaid both suspended last year for mouthing at ref and punching respectively (note both got 8 weeks suspensions)

In a 2007 club game Paddy Bradley was suspended for 3 months for mouthing at a referee,  It was used for Dublin/Tyrone brawl at Healy Park in 2006, What about 'Semplegate' a few years ago? In fact as far back as 2000 Video evidence was used in the Cavan/Sligo brawl in Markievicz Park.

Also..if you want find out why Ryan Mc Menamin got a call up to the Tyrone Panel, I couldn't possibly post for fear of getting banned but let's just say it is charming to say the least.... Reading the rest of him profile, he is a nasty piece of work to say the least. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_mcmenamin

So it isn't just Tyrone, and also it's interesting to note the length of bans, Finlay got 8 weeks for Mouthing at the ref, Ricey was crying he got 6 weeks for a whole lot worse.

pintsofguinness

Quote from: The GAA on April 02, 2009, 04:06:02 PM

Basically The tyrone complaint here is that its not fair their players get caught all the time?

Ha ha, exactly!

When are they going to learn to leave other men's balls alone?
Which one of you bitches wants to dance?

Family guy

Welcome to gaelic football,part and parcel of the game,bet ya sean marty lockhart isnt still goin on about it so why is everyone else goin on bout it,these things happen on the field when the full time whistle goes the boys all shake hands and thats it time to get the head down and train for the next game

tyronefan

Quote from: Oakleafer93 on April 02, 2009, 07:38:53 PM
Fergal Doherty was done in the Derry v Donegal Mash for lashing out with his hand, stayed on the pitch at the time and no one questioned the video trial that was to follow. If you ask the Admin maybe he could dig the thread about it out of the archives and you can see what was said about it. Fergal got 4 weeks and rightly so because the crime fits the time.

In last years league several Meath and Dublin were suspended following trial by video footage.

In last years championship, Collie Moran of Dublin, was before the CCCC, so too was Kevin Reilly of Meath, and Also Martin Cole of Down (who was subsequently banned), ironically when playing Tyrone...maybe Davey Harte 'over exaggerated it' as some are suggesting with SML... And how can we forget the most high profile story of last summer almost eclipsing Tyrone's win, one Mr Paul Galvin and the diving notebook(!) Paul Finlay, Gary Mc Quaid both suspended last year for mouthing at ref and punching respectively (note both got 8 weeks suspensions)

In a 2007 club game Paddy Bradley was suspended for 3 months for mouthing at a referee,  It was used for Dublin/Tyrone brawl at Healy Park in 2006, What about 'Semplegate' a few years ago? In fact as far back as 2000 Video evidence was used in the Cavan/Sligo brawl in Markievicz Park.

Also..if you want find out why Ryan Mc Menamin got a call up to the Tyrone Panel, I couldn't possibly post for fear of getting banned but let's just say it is charming to say the least.... Reading the rest of him profile, he is a nasty piece of work to say the least. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_mcmenamin

So it isn't just Tyrone, and also it's interesting to note the length of bans, Finlay got 8 weeks for Mouthing at the ref, Ricey was crying he got 6 weeks for a whole lot worse.


Are you serious   it might be something to do with the fact he is a very good footballer

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on April 02, 2009, 07:31:12 PM
QuoteI really hope there is no appeal from Tyrone either, because the focus for Mickey Harte should not be moaning about inconsistencies, but getting his players to stop losing their discipline,

Harte tacitly supports this behavior. It happens too often to be down to the players only. They wouldnt do it if they felt they faced any censure from Harte.

Another peach of a quote from the biggest bullsh!tter on the board

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: Oakleafer93 on April 02, 2009, 07:38:53 PM
Also..if you want find out why Ryan Mc Menamin got a call up to the Tyrone Panel, I couldn't possibly post for fear of getting banned but let's just say it is charming to say the least.... Reading the rest of him profile, he is a nasty piece of work to say the least. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_mcmenamin[/urll]



Jesus Christ - have you boys nothing better to be doing than going round editing Wikipedia pages with shite like that

Fear ón Srath Bán

Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Mike Sheehy

QuoteAnother peach of a quote from the biggest bullsh!tter on the board

weren't you crying a while back about throwing insults on this board ?

Always had you down for a hypocritical holier-than-thou w**ker and this is further proof.

Gabriel_Hurl

You are nearly worse than Fearon MS - trotting out the same old tired bollocks week after week

Oakleafer93

Quote from: tyronefan on April 02, 2009, 08:01:29 PM
Quote from: Oakleafer93 on April 02, 2009, 07:38:53 PM
Fergal Doherty was done in the Derry v Donegal Mash for lashing out with his hand, stayed on the pitch at the time and no one questioned the video trial that was to follow. If you ask the Admin maybe he could dig the thread about it out of the archives and you can see what was said about it. Fergal got 4 weeks and rightly so because the crime fits the time.

In last years league several Meath and Dublin were suspended following trial by video footage.

In last years championship, Collie Moran of Dublin, was before the CCCC, so too was Kevin Reilly of Meath, and Also Martin Cole of Down (who was subsequently banned), ironically when playing Tyrone...maybe Davey Harte 'over exaggerated it' as some are suggesting with SML... And how can we forget the most high profile story of last summer almost eclipsing Tyrone's win, one Mr Paul Galvin and the diving notebook(!) Paul Finlay, Gary Mc Quaid both suspended last year for mouthing at ref and punching respectively (note both got 8 weeks suspensions)

In a 2007 club game Paddy Bradley was suspended for 3 months for mouthing at a referee,  It was used for Dublin/Tyrone brawl at Healy Park in 2006, What about 'Semplegate' a few years ago? In fact as far back as 2000 Video evidence was used in the Cavan/Sligo brawl in Markievicz Park.

Also..if you want find out why Ryan Mc Menamin got a call up to the Tyrone Panel, I couldn't possibly post for fear of getting banned but let's just say it is charming to say the least.... Reading the rest of him profile, he is a nasty piece of work to say the least. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_mcmenamin

So it isn't just Tyrone, and also it's interesting to note the length of bans, Finlay got 8 weeks for Mouthing at the ref, Ricey was crying he got 6 weeks for a whole lot worse.


Are you serious   it might be something to do with the fact he is a very good footballer

That aside, the reason that set him from the rest. Also, if this is the basis Tyrone are recruiting players on, is it any wonder their behaviour is so bad.

Fear ón Srath Bán

Quote from: Oakleafer93 on April 02, 2009, 08:36:26 PM
That aside, the reason that set him from the rest. Also, if this is the basis Tyrone are recruiting players on, is it any wonder their behaviour is so bad.

Of your 28 posts on this board so far, how many of them don't involve you having a go at Tyrone (I'll answer that if you want)?
Carlsberg don't do Gombeenocracies, but by jaysus if they did...

Mike Sheehy

QuoteYou are nearly worse than Fearon MS - trotting out the same old tired bollocks week after week

Why dont you just stick to yer cricket brit boy.