The OFFICIAL Liverpool Supporters thread

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Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 20, 2009, 09:13:41 PMMaybe it has been mentioned but does anyone else think Reina is dropping a lot of balls lately ?

Reina has always been kind of dodgy on crosses

ONeill

Quote from: corn02 on January 20, 2009, 09:24:57 AM

2- zonal marking -. Firstly, forget what Andy Gray says, Liverpool do not play zonal marking. They play a mixture of zonal and man marking.

Anyone else snigger at this?
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

corn02

Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2009, 10:02:29 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 20, 2009, 09:24:57 AM

2- zonal marking -. Firstly, forget what Andy Gray says, Liverpool do not play zonal marking. They play a mixture of zonal and man marking.

Anyone else snigger at this?

Why would you snigger?

Armamike

Regardless of whether Benitez is too cautious (imo he was again last night in taking off a couple of strikers for midfielders and removing the one player - Torres - that Everton were petrified of) or whether he uses the right formations at times, it will be a lack of quality that will continue to cost Liverpool points. How many of us at the start of the season really believed that Liverpool could win the title with players like Benayoun, Lucas, (Kuyt - sorry Corn), Aurelio, Arbeloa in the team? I've been scratching my head the past couple of months wondering how we've actually managed to top the league. It was that lack of quality that cost us last night. Just not enough chances created and a poor piece of defending leading up the free kick and then on the free kick itself. There just are a few too many players there who are not title winning material imho and that will continue to cost the team points as the season goes on.
That's just, like your opinion man.

corn02

Quote from: hardstation on January 20, 2009, 11:25:14 PM
I think he finds it funny/strange that you state that Liverpool don't play zonal marking but they do a bit.

Then again, I don't know a f**k.

Yes, that is why I said a mixture. Zonal marking involves defending players beeing stationed at various positions while man-marking is obvious. Raf deploys four or five to zones and the rest man mark accordingly. I would imagine Liverppol have either the best or second best defensive record to set pieces this year.

Very effective if people keep their role, if players do not do their job it is costly = Torres v United last season.

ONeill

It's like saying I don't eat chips. I eat chips and eel.

Liverpool zonal mark. It's a massive part of their defensive set-up.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Armamike

Whether it's zonal marking or not, for the very most part it works week in week out. Last night excepted though when someone decided not to keep close tabs on Everton's most dangerous player in the box.
That's just, like your opinion man.

Hound

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on January 20, 2009, 09:41:03 PM
Quote from: The Real Laoislad on January 20, 2009, 09:13:41 PMMaybe it has been mentioned but does anyone else think Reina is dropping a lot of balls lately ?

Reina has always been kind of dodgy on crosses
He has probably been dropping a few more recently. He's better than he's ever been when it comes to shot stopping though. Plus I love the way he's so keen to get attacks going. Never lets anyone fall asleep.

He wasn't good for the Everton goal. Cahill's header went right into the middle of the goals, and he was nowhere near.

10 consecutive games without a goal for Kuyt. 6 as striker, 4 as right midfielder.

corn02

Quote from: ONeill on January 20, 2009, 11:48:48 PM
It's like saying I don't eat chips. I eat chips and eel.

Liverpool zonal mark. It's a massive part of their defensive set-up.

Yes that is why I say they use a mixture, so I still don;t understand the snigger?

Chrisowc

Quote from: Hound on January 21, 2009, 08:44:05 AM
10 consecutive games without a goal for Kuyt. 6 as striker, 4 as right midfielder.

According to BBC's rumour page Italian media saying that Juve are in for the Diggler this summer.  £10m.
it's 'circle the wagons time again' here comes the cavalry!

corn02

Quote from: Chrisowc on January 21, 2009, 11:28:07 AM
Quote from: Hound on January 21, 2009, 08:44:05 AM
10 consecutive games without a goal for Kuyt. 6 as striker, 4 as right midfielder.

According to BBC's rumour page Italian media saying that Juve are in for the Diggler this summer.  £10m.

No chance.

corn02

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I would be more worried about Keane to be honest right now. He barely touched the ball last night. Was completely anonymous and he's getting slaughtered on the forums today because of it. Granted the service wasn't great to the front two but Torres still had a good game bar the miss in the first half. I know Keane is in and out of the team but when he gets a chance to play he has to take it and last night he was nowhere to be seen.

Kuyt didn't have a good game but in true Dirk style still worked hard and put himself about. After a good start to the season though he's been pretty poor the last month or so. A decent squad player but that would be it in an ideal world.

In hindsight we would probably have been better served keeping Crouch and spending the money we spent on Keane on a proper right winger.

Really? If you have been following the Benitez contract saga, you would see the stumbling block is Rafa having autonomy over transfers, something which he does not have at the minute. So how can he be to blame?
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he's spent over 30m on wing men (40m if you include kuyt), and we still dont have a decent right sided midfielder. Now i do think Rick Parry is a terrible chief exec espec when it comes to transfer dealings, but surely Rafa must shoulder some of the blame for the right sided problem. He mightnt have autonomy when it comes to transfers, but surely he has a significant input!!

by the way, i would be in the pro Rafa camp, but I am just pointing out some of the mistakes I think he's made.
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Don't disagree with either. Certainly an attacking full back could take advantage of the space Kuyt creates. And, as I said, I would rather have Ypissi or Babel starting at home to Stoke etc.

AZOffaly

QuoteCertainly an attacking full back could take advantage of the space Kuyt creates.

Again with that?? :D

corn02

Quote from: AZOffaly on January 21, 2009, 01:50:14 PM
QuoteCertainly an attacking full back could take advantage of the space Kuyt creates.

Again with that?? :D

quoted wrong Stevo-08 post again. Opps.

Ah yes, AZ that old argument. We'll not get back at it.  :P

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