Bruton says Easter Rising was "unnecessary"

[Shamrock Shore]

John Unionist can go and shite. Along with the brother 'Ballygowan' Bruton.

Who can ever forget his multiple orgasms when Price Charles was here on the first official royal visit since 1911 in, what, 1994 or so. "Best day of my life" I think he was heard to slabber.

One cannot accurately speculate how events would have turned out had there been no Rising but the fact that the British Establishment ignored the wishes of the people in 1918 says enough for me. So-called 'Southern' Ireland (which existed for 1/2 hour or so officially) may have been granted something more in the 1960s but by then we would have probably have lost the will to be independent and be like Scotland now - afraid to leave Westminster's tit.

Churchill forecast in the mid 30s that another war was coming and he was against to the 'Treaty Ports' reverting to the Free State in 1938. But he wasn't in power so he had to suck it up. How different would Ireland be had we been fully involved in WW2 - having the shite bombed out of Dublin and the west coast ports and cities like Galway and Limerick. How many lives lost there? Would our participation have shortened the war? Doubt it.

So Bruton should climb back into his fur lined hole and remain there.

[AZOffaly]

The term 'West Brit' was coined for people like John Bruton. Whether you regard it as an insult or a compliment, he obviously has very pro-British sentiments. My opinion is that John Bruton would much prefer Ireland to be a commonwealth country, independently governed, but with the Queen as nominal head of state. A Canada or Australia lite.

[Rossfan]

John Unionist can go and shite.
Who can ever forget his multiple orgasms when Price Charles was here on the first official royal visit since 1911 in, what, 1994 or so. "Best day of my life" I think he was heard to slabber.

+1.
That was so embarrassing.
He also damn near effd up the Peace Process. Thank God Bertie and Blair came along when they did and got things back on track.
If they had only been assassinated then they'd be heroes now instead of two tainted scumbags.

As for 1916 - it would have been unnecessary if the Brits had implemented the Home Rule Act that they just passed instead of postponing it.
However they didn't and the rest is History.
If it hadn't happened we'd probably have got 2 Welsh type Home Rule thingys - 1 for all Ulster and one for the other 3 Provinces.
The Nazis would probably have invaded Ireland in 1940 and a large part of WW2 would have been fought across our Country with massive destruction and loss of life.
John Bruton would probably be now Lord Dunboyne and Syferus would be waving a Union Jack every time one of their so called majesties came to visit.

[muppet]

What is our fascination with the bloody side of things only?

Where is the celebration of Catholic Emancipation?
Where is the celebration of the achievements of the Land League?

Leaving aside opinions on 1916, why do we feel (Britain does this to an absurd degree) the need to celebrate war and conflict and we are inclined to ignore the other successes on the road to (in our case) independence.

By "in our case", I assume you mean in the case of just a part of the nation?

Not really. The Brits celebrate all their glorious victories in war, but none of those wars were to achieve (partial) independence, which is different to 'our case'.

This is quite confusing to me, as if you believe that Ireland should be 32 counties, and I do, then why would you celebrate 1916 or even 1921? Conversely Bruton, of all people, appears quite happy with partition and should be the one celebrating.

[Sidney]

The volunteers of 1916 were genuine volunteers. They fought to free a small country from the rule of an imperial oppressor.

The "volunteers" of World War I were paid mercenaries.

World War I was an utterly pointless conflict of imperial arrogance and hubris. Commemoration of those who died without recognising that those who died were sacrificed for nothing by selfish elites is simply glorification of war for war's sake.

There is no comparison. Those who fought in the Easter Rising fought for a noble cause. There was nothing noble about World War I and the world is still living with its disastrous historical consequences.

[theticklemister]

What differences are there in Burton meeting the Queen of England or McGuinness or any other leader including An Taoiseach? It doesn't matter what period of history this took place; all tarred with the one brush.

West Brit would summarise 95% leader of every political party in Ireland.

[red hander]

John Britain would say that.

Fixed that for you, rrhf.

[Rossfan]

What differences are there in Burton meeting the Queen of England or McGuinness or any other leader including An Taoiseach?.

Bruton (not Burton) was climbing up Charlie Windsor's behind and leppin about like mad while McG was meeting in a formal setting in his role as Joint FM.