Majority of Republicans Doubt Theory of Evolution

[heganboy]

Thats typical liberal bullshit is that.

Here is what happened. The democrats lost one of if not the safest democratic senate seat in America, you know the one muppet,  The republician candidate ran on an anti obamacare ticket, worked his arse off, got his message out and the good people of massachussetts agreed with him and voila, a republician senator takes the place of one ted kennedy.
I am right when I say the American people have lost their patience with Obama and his numbskull approach to healthcare, the economy and pretty much everything else he touches. I want him to do well but I have a feeling that the electorate will send him a message loud and clear come mid term election time.

Jeez stew I don't even know where to start on this one...
when the supreme court just made that ruling on lobbying I thought it was bad news, right now I am seriously worried...

[muppet]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/27847/majority-republicans-doubt-theory-evolution.aspx

Who would have thought that both sides in the Stormont negotiations would have so similar views!

Remember these are the people who think a government giving health care to the sick is treasonous. Religion is a badge to chest thump for some, it is certainly not something to live by.

Thats a load of shit to be fair. the proposed universal health care bill cannot be sustained by the tax paying public, the country cannot afford it and that is why people dont want it.

Jaysus when Wall Street got sick, there was no shortage of billions thrown at it.

Not to mention the various wars.

[Zapatista]

Thats a load of shit to be fair. the proposed universal health care bill cannot be sustained by the tax paying public, the country cannot afford it and that is why people dont want it.

I guess they're all glad they're insured so.

[stew]

Hardly a surprising poll result given the role of the religious right within the Republican party and the shocking level of scientific knowledge among Americans in general. But what do you expect when people are brought up to think that they'll go to hell if they don't accept Jesus and a literal interpretation of Genesis? When science educators are continuously fighting wave after wave of shape-shifting creationists trying to get their nonsense taught in school science classes (and its all about school kids - they don't give two f**ks about the science itself, only that young Joe Bob and Nancy Sue might be in danger of coming to possess the knowledge to think for themselves and put two and two together). The fact that Ken Ham could raise almost 30 million to build a ludicrous museum of creationism, complete with dioramas depicting dinosaurs living happily side by side with Adam and Eve tells you all you need to know about the state of science awareness in America.

Do you muppets actually believe that only republicians are religious people here in the states?

Whats wrong in believing in Jesus and who says that Darwin holds the keys to the human condition?

It is typical arrogance from athiests that religiously minded people cannot think for themselves, we can. Athiests and haters of christianity have been trying to undermine the Bible for years, it will never happen but hey, just because i dont give two shites about the cause of athiesm does not mean that I am going to ridicule those who believe in athiesm, I am not the one going to judge them.

[muppet]

Hardly a surprising poll result given the role of the religious right within the Republican party and the shocking level of scientific knowledge among Americans in general. But what do you expect when people are brought up to think that they'll go to hell if they don't accept Jesus and a literal interpretation of Genesis? When science educators are continuously fighting wave after wave of shape-shifting creationists trying to get their nonsense taught in school science classes (and its all about school kids - they don't give two f**ks about the science itself, only that young Joe Bob and Nancy Sue might be in danger of coming to possess the knowledge to think for themselves and put two and two together). The fact that Ken Ham could raise almost 30 million to build a ludicrous museum of creationism, complete with dioramas depicting dinosaurs living happily side by side with Adam and Eve tells you all you need to know about the state of science awareness in America.

Do you muppets actually believe that only republicians are religious people here in the states?

Whats wrong in believing in Jesus and who says that Darwin holds the keys to the human condition?

It is typical arrogance from athiests that religiously minded people cannot think for themselves, we can. Athiests and haters of christianity have been trying to undermine the Bible for years, it will never happen but hey, just because i dont give two shites about the cause of athiesm does not mean that I am going to ridicule those who believe in athiesm, I am not the one going to judge them.

Just to be clear does that include everyone that doesn't believe in creationism?

[J70]

Hardly a surprising poll result given the role of the religious right within the Republican party and the shocking level of scientific knowledge among Americans in general. But what do you expect when people are brought up to think that they'll go to hell if they don't accept Jesus and a literal interpretation of Genesis? When science educators are continuously fighting wave after wave of shape-shifting creationists trying to get their nonsense taught in school science classes (and its all about school kids - they don't give two f**ks about the science itself, only that young Joe Bob and Nancy Sue might be in danger of coming to possess the knowledge to think for themselves and put two and two together). The fact that Ken Ham could raise almost 30 million to build a ludicrous museum of creationism, complete with dioramas depicting dinosaurs living happily side by side with Adam and Eve tells you all you need to know about the state of science awareness in America.

Do you muppets actually believe that only republicians are religious people here in the states?

Whats wrong in believing in Jesus and who says that Darwin holds the keys to the human condition?

It is typical arrogance from athiests that religiously minded people cannot think for themselves, we can. Athiests and haters of christianity have been trying to undermine the Bible for years, it will never happen but hey, just because i dont give two shites about the cause of athiesm does not mean that I am going to ridicule those who believe in athiesm, I am not the one going to judge them.

Stew, if you are going to call me names, at least discuss what I said, not what you imagined or wanted me to have said!


Nowhere did I even hint that only Republicans are religious (I doubt if anyone would make such a ridiculous statement!). Nowhere did I say that there was anything wrong with believing in Jesus or that Darwin "held the keys to the human condition".


What I did say was that the fact that almost ¾ doubted evolution was hardly surprising given the influence and dominance of the religious right in the Republican party and the appalling standard of scientific education and knowledge among Americans IN GENERAL!  I then made the point that this statistic had little or nothing to do with actual science, but was almost purely a religious issue. I couldn't give two fucks if you personally reject evolution because you think it goes against Jesus and the Bible, as long as you are HONEST that it is religiously motivated and has nothing to do with science. If you want to adulate the bible, knock yourself out. But once you try to fraudulently put the Bible/Jesus/creationism forward as a legitimate and worthy alternative to science and evolution and attempt to sow illegitimate seeds of doubt in the minds of children it is a totally different matter. If the objections of creationists to evolution are intellectually honest and based on science and not a priori rejection of the subject because it conflicts with their religious views, then why the hell are they invariably found to be hopelessly ignorant of even the most basic principles of what evolutionary theory actually states? The creationist body of work is replete with strawmen, misrepresentation, quote mining and ludicrously half-baked ideas about the second law of thermodynamics, dust on the moon, tectonic plates speeding across the mantle, "hydrodynamic sorting" of fossils during Noah's flood and so on; stuff that sounds plausible to the scientifically ignorant, especially when supplemented with emotional appeals to the bible and religion. If these people aren't afraid to let their kids think for themselves, why all the deceit and need to poke bogus holes in science by "teaching the controversy"? At least religions like catholicism are honest and have reconciled their faith with science. And I have no problems with people like that on this issue. Some of them, like Kenneth Miller, are among the strongest and most outspoken opponents of creationism around!

[Tyrones own]

Stew...they're only winding for a reaction, well outside of muppet anyway..the rest simply can't
be indicative of the intolerance and ignorance towards others that's back there ...

[stephenite]

they're only winding for a reaction,

[heganboy]

the rest simply can't be indicative of the intolerance and ignorance towards others that's back there ...

TO,
not sure that I get your point- sorry

[Hardy]

If you want to adulate the bible, knock yourself out. But once you try to fraudulently put the Bible/Jesus/creationism forward as a legitimate and worthy alternative to science and evolution and attempt to sow illegitimate seeds of doubt in the minds of children it is a totally different matter. If the objections of creationists to evolution are intellectually honest and based on science and not a priori rejection of the subject because it conflicts with their religious views, then why the hell are they invariably found to be hopelessly ignorant of even the most basic principles of what evolutionary theory actually states? The creationist body of work is replete with strawmen, misrepresentation, quote mining and ludicrously half-baked ideas about the second law of thermodynamics, dust on the moon, tectonic plates speeding across the mantle, "hydrodynamic sorting" of fossils during Noah's flood and so on; stuff that sounds plausible to the scientifically ignorant, especially when supplemented with emotional appeals to the bible and religion. If these people aren't afraid to let their kids think for themselves, why all the deceit and need to poke bogus holes in science by "teaching the controversy"? At least religions like catholicism are honest and have reconciled their faith with science. And I have no problems with people like that on this issue. Some of them, like Kenneth Miller, are among the strongest and most outspoken opponents of creationism around!

That's as concise a statement as I've seen anywhere on the subject, Dawkins included. Well said.

[Billys Boots]

If you want to adulate the bible, knock yourself out. But once you try to fraudulently put the Bible/Jesus/creationism forward as a legitimate and worthy alternative to science and evolution and attempt to sow illegitimate seeds of doubt in the minds of children it is a totally different matter. If the objections of creationists to evolution are intellectually honest and based on science and not a priori rejection of the subject because it conflicts with their religious views, then why the hell are they invariably found to be hopelessly ignorant of even the most basic principles of what evolutionary theory actually states? The creationist body of work is replete with strawmen, misrepresentation, quote mining and ludicrously half-baked ideas about the second law of thermodynamics, dust on the moon, tectonic plates speeding across the mantle, "hydrodynamic sorting" of fossils during Noah's flood and so on; stuff that sounds plausible to the scientifically ignorant, especially when supplemented with emotional appeals to the bible and religion. If these people aren't afraid to let their kids think for themselves, why all the deceit and need to poke bogus holes in science by "teaching the controversy"? At least religions like catholicism are honest and have reconciled their faith with science. And I have no problems with people like that on this issue. Some of them, like Kenneth Miller, are among the strongest and most outspoken opponents of creationism around!

That's as concise a statement as I've seen anywhere on the subject, Dawkins included. Well said.

Well said J70.

[muppet]

If you want to adulate the bible, knock yourself out. But once you try to fraudulently put the Bible/Jesus/creationism forward as a legitimate and worthy alternative to science and evolution and attempt to sow illegitimate seeds of doubt in the minds of children it is a totally different matter. If the objections of creationists to evolution are intellectually honest and based on science and not a priori rejection of the subject because it conflicts with their religious views, then why the hell are they invariably found to be hopelessly ignorant of even the most basic principles of what evolutionary theory actually states? The creationist body of work is replete with strawmen, misrepresentation, quote mining and ludicrously half-baked ideas about the second law of thermodynamics, dust on the moon, tectonic plates speeding across the mantle, "hydrodynamic sorting" of fossils during Noah's flood and so on; stuff that sounds plausible to the scientifically ignorant, especially when supplemented with emotional appeals to the bible and religion. If these people aren't afraid to let their kids think for themselves, why all the deceit and need to poke bogus holes in science by "teaching the controversy"? At least religions like catholicism are honest and have reconciled their faith with science. And I have no problems with people like that on this issue. Some of them, like Kenneth Miller, are among the strongest and most outspoken opponents of creationism around!

That's as concise a statement as I've seen anywhere on the subject, Dawkins included. Well said.

Well said J70.

Succinctly put.