'Ten...Nine...Eight...Seven...Six...Five.................. - Whacked

Started by drici, September 30, 2010, 07:50:26 PM

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DuffleKing


Un less i missed it, there's no mention of the clock stopping for injuries or subs so what happens if the ref tells the sideline there'll be 2 mins of extra time and then there is an injury?

Logan

Quote from: DuffleKing on October 01, 2010, 08:35:34 AM

Un less i missed it, there's no mention of the clock stopping for injuries or subs so what happens if the ref tells the sideline there'll be 2 mins of extra time and then there is an injury?

Will the ref not signal to the line when the clock is to stop and start?

Milltown Row2

If its the same as the ladies its simple, the clock/watch is only stopped during an injury in the match. the referee signals to the assistant and he stops the clock during the game.

The good thing is that it will stop the whining from teams about time added on or not
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

The Forfeit Point

this will be an absolute disaster unless they use common sense and have the game over the next time ball goes out of play after the hooter goes

AZOffaly

Quote from: The Forfeit Point on October 01, 2010, 01:11:41 PM
this will be an absolute disaster unless they use common sense and have the game over the next time ball goes out of play after the hooter goes

Exactly. Anything else will be a recipe for common sense. (Not a typo)

DuffleKing

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 01, 2010, 12:20:17 PM
If its the same as the ladies its simple, the clock/watch is only stopped during an injury in the match. the referee signals to the assistant and he stops the clock during the game.

The good thing is that it will stop the whining from teams about time added on or not

Where is it mentioned at all about the clock being stopped?
My understanding is that after 35 mins the ref communicates how much injury time there should be and the hooter sounds after that time?

Mike Sheehy

So, who is going to get the ball to a player on team A when team B kicks it into row Z with 10 seconds remaining and a point in it ? would the clock only stop for injuries or anytime the ball went dead ?


drici

Quote from: Take Your Points on October 10, 2010, 08:17:04 PM
GAA want more time over changes

Sunday October 10 2010

GAA chiefs have decided to defer the proposed implementation of a new clock and hooter system due to cost and practical difficulties.

The system was due to be introduced on an experimental basis in next year's National Leagues.

But the GAA has now decided to delay its implementation until at least the 2012 National Leagues.

The estimated financial cost of the new system, which is used in ladies football, is approximately €250,000.


http://www.herald.ie

By Frank Roche


Wednesday January 21 2009

The Dublin County Board has joined the chorus of complaint over the high cost of the Croke Park fireworks display marking the GAA's 125th anniversary celebrations.

And so too has Tyrone boss Mickey Harte, who labelled the expenditure of close to €500,000 as "a bit extravagant".

orangeman

Quote from: drici on October 10, 2010, 08:26:27 PM
Quote from: Take Your Points on October 10, 2010, 08:17:04 PM
GAA want more time over changes

Sunday October 10 2010

GAA chiefs have decided to defer the proposed implementation of a new clock and hooter system due to cost and practical difficulties.

The system was due to be introduced on an experimental basis in next year's National Leagues.

But the GAA has now decided to delay its implementation until at least the 2012 National Leagues.

The estimated financial cost of the new system, which is used in ladies football, is approximately €250,000.


http://www.herald.ie

By Frank Roche


Wednesday January 21 2009

The Dublin County Board has joined the chorus of complaint over the high cost of the Croke Park fireworks display marking the GAA's 125th anniversary celebrations.

And so too has Tyrone boss Mickey Harte, who labelled the expenditure of close to €500,000 as "a bit extravagant".


That's class !!!!!!! They'd tell you anything if you were foolish enough to buy it.

tonto1888

Quote from: Logan on October 01, 2010, 08:11:40 AM
I think this is one useful idea they've come up with!

Next can we try game suspensions rather than weeks?

this would be a great idea

lawnseed

will this time keeper be an oul fella in a white coat.... because..  ::) :)
A coward dies a thousand deaths a soldier only dies once

drici

The Irish Times


GAELIC GAMES NEWS: 
IN WHAT is a further embarrassment for the GAA's annual congress, the motion passed last April to introduce automatic timing to matches on a trial basis has had to be deferred pending a major redrafting.

Saturday's Central Council meeting decided the implementation of the clock and hooter, as used in women's football and international rules, and successfully piloted through congress by the Clonard club in Wexford would have to be deferred on grounds of "cost (€250,000) and practical difficulties".

The figure of quarter of a million euro was arrived at after consultation with the women's football authorities.

It is unusual to see accepted congress motions set aside on the grounds of cost but that was not the significant factor in the decision, according to Feargal McGill, the GAA's operations manager, who is also an officer of the Central Competitions Control Committee (CCCC), which delivered an assessment of the Wexford proposal at the weekend.

"The view of Central Council was more that it was a lot of money to spend on something that hadn't been fully worked out. CCCC was asked to consider the situation from a practical point of view and we felt that the cost was a practical issue in the light of the uncertainty.

"There are a number of ambiguities in the agreed motion and we need to get them sorted out first. For instance, the proposal appears to envisage the clock only starting from the moment the fourth official raises their board – and the feeling is that that was not what was intended."

The Wexford county committee was due to consider the matter at last night's meeting and brief delegates on the weekend's decision, which included an undertaking to revisit the matter at next year's congress.

According to the county's central council delegate Paddy Wickham the issue is one of drafting.

"The biggest problem was that the motion wasn't worded right. It's only a matter of going back to congress."

The procedural difficulties include a lack of specific detail as to how the clock would operate: when would it be stopped, would there be a countdown, as in the women's, or a count-up?

There were also some relevant rules affecting match time-keeping, which has always been a matter for referees, that should have been cited as needing amendment.

Asked whether the matter could not have been sorted out by procedures intended to prevent defective motions from being ruled out of order, McGill said that the deficiencies had been too comprehensive.

"There's no problem asking the Rules Advisory Committee to tidy up a motion that's missing one or two rules references but in this case we'd have to try and second guess what congress intended in originally accepting the proposal."

The Clonard motion that passed congress last April was as follows: "That the clock/hooter system be introduced to signal the conclusion of a game following the notification by the fourth official or other designated person of the finishing time to include added time to be played. This procedure be initially introduced in 2011 on a trial basis for all senior intercounty league games in all divisions in both hurling and football and if successful it also be implemented for all intercounty championship games in both codes in 2012."

The events of the weekend leave the decision of last April's congress to trial the idea during next year's National Leagues shelved and it will now be 2012 before the initiative can be implemented.

A year previously at the 2009 congress, a motion in respect of the Leinster hurling championship was accepted and required a special congress the following autumn to sort out the anomaly created.

One of the obvious difficulties at last April's congress in Newcastle, Co Down, was that in what was a five-yearly opportunity to amend the playing rules, there were simply too many motions on the clár.

Clonard's was number 40 and taken on Saturday afternoon but without much debate other than the procedural withdrawal of other motions on the same subject in favour of the Wexford one.

As a result the matter will have to be completely redrafted and submitted once again to congress where it is hoped that it will receive more careful consideration.

Bogball XV

Quote from: drici on September 30, 2010, 07:50:26 PM
The Irish Times - Thursday, September 30, 2010

Poster Bogball XV's Clock-hooter experiment ready to roll

IAN O'RIORDAN Reports

It was so close Drici, and now, to be dragged away from me again like this - i'm not sure that i'll ever truly recover (well maybe if a joint motion including the hooter and the sin bin are passed next year).

Of course we all know that cost wasn't the issue, rather lack of revenue, the hooter makes it less likely that there'll be draws and we know that aint good for the coffers!!