Best Club Championship

[bennydorano]

if you take Cross out the championship in Armagh is extremely competitive, with the other finalists changing constantly. Last year Cross were taken to the pin of their collar by a couple of teams and only a contentious decision disallowing a goal for the Harps prevented them toppling.

You are gauging the rest of Armagh by the fact that they cant beat Cross, BUT CROSS ARE PROBABLY THE GREATEST CLUB SIDE IN HISTORY!!

If the Armagh championship is so shit, how come in the last few years Cross have had their hardest games domestically and then cruise against the other county champions in Ulster?

thtas one of the easiest questions I will have to answer today...its because all their training and fitness is geared towards the Ulster club due to the FACT that they know they will walk it in Armagh on a half ful tank.

Fact This is a Donal Murtagh mouthing of myth.  Cross dont need to train like demons themselves during the summer as they have(had) a shitload of players on the Armagh panel, were them boys not fit for club championship football?  Aside from this I suspect Donal is a bit of an arrogant fella, who would like you to buy into the Cross invincibility business.

[mountainboii]

Another factor in Cross' dominance of Armagh is the relatively late starting date of the Armagh championship. Unlike many other counties that are back into the swing of things already, the first round of the championship here isn't til the middle of August. This gives Cross 5 months at a minimum to recharge the batteries from the previous year's AI/ Ulster club campaign.

[INDIANA]

fair point AFS Crokes had 5 weeks. They go into the backdoor but thats on next week. So they could be out in 2 weeks time.

[brokencrossbar1]

Another factor in Cross' dominance of Armagh is the relatively late starting date of the Armagh championship. Unlike many other counties that are back into the swing of things already, the first round of the championship here isn't til the middle of August. This gives Cross 5 months at a minimum to recharge the batteries from the previous year's AI/ Ulster club campaign.

Not true AFS, it is only in the last 2 seasons that this has been the case.  The majority of the time the first round is played in May and I recall playing a few times in April.  One in particular sticks out when we won the AI and then were out the last weekend of April against Ballyhegan.  I would agree however that the recent change in the way things are run, ie playing it later in the summer, does benefit us more than most.  We can use the league as a way of getting the younger lads up to the pace of the game.  I also know the type of training that was happening in the months building up to August and it certainly was beneficial in the Ballinderry games.

That is unreal about Crokes, that is the difference between us and a lot of teams in that no matter how much other teams are able to motivate themselves against us we have always been able to get through the tough sticky early rounds.  At least they have the back door, something which we would not have the advantage of.

[Drumanee 1]

Another factor in Cross' dominance of Armagh is the relatively late starting date of the Armagh championship. Unlike many other counties that are back into the swing of things already, the first round of the championship here isn't til the middle of August. This gives Cross 5 months at a minimum to recharge the batteries from the previous year's AI/ Ulster club campaign.

Not true AFS, it is only in the last 2 seasons that this has been the case.  The majority of the time the first round is played in May and I recall playing a few times in April.  One in particular sticks out when we won the AI and then were out the last weekend of April against Ballyhegan.  I would agree however that the recent change in the way things are run, ie playing it later in the summer, does benefit us more than most.  We can use the league as a way of getting the younger lads up to the pace of the game.  I also know the type of training that was happening in the months building up to August and it certainly was beneficial in the Ballinderry games.

That is unreal about Crokes, that is the difference between us and a lot of teams in that no matter how much other teams are able to motivate themselves against us we have always been able to get through the tough sticky early rounds.  At least they have the back door, something which we would not have the advantage of.

you dont need it

[mountainboii]

Another factor in Cross' dominance of Armagh is the relatively late starting date of the Armagh championship. Unlike many other counties that are back into the swing of things already, the first round of the championship here isn't til the middle of August. This gives Cross 5 months at a minimum to recharge the batteries from the previous year's AI/ Ulster club campaign.

Not true AFS, it is only in the last 2 seasons that this has been the case.  The majority of the time the first round is played in May and I recall playing a few times in April.  One in particular sticks out when we won the AI and then were out the last weekend of April against Ballyhegan.  I would agree however that the recent change in the way things are run, ie playing it later in the summer, does benefit us more than most.  We can use the league as a way of getting the younger lads up to the pace of the game.  I also know the type of training that was happening in the months building up to August and it certainly was beneficial in the Ballinderry games.

That is unreal about Crokes, that is the difference between us and a lot of teams in that no matter how much other teams are able to motivate themselves against us we have always been able to get through the tough sticky early rounds.  At least they have the back door, something which we would not have the advantage of.

Yeah fair enough this is a fairly recent thing.

[WhoAreYaWhoAreYa!]

Back to back winning all Irleands would seem to say that Dublin boasts the strongest clubs.

[armaghniac]

Back to back winning all Irleands would seem to say that Dublin boasts the strongest clubs.

As well they should, given the large populations in their catchment areas and the number of blow in players that they have.

[screenexile]

Back to back winning all Irleands would seem to say that Dublin boasts the strongest clubs.

As well they should, given the large populations in their catchment areas and the number of blow in players that they have.

Ah what did you do that for? The Dubs will be all over you for that one! Kilmacud and Vincents actually had very few blow ins in their winning teams... around the same amount as Crossmaglen

[INDIANA]

True but the big catchment area argument only applies southside . Take vincents for example - 6 clubs in a 5 mile radius. hardly much of a catchment area considering you've soccer,rugby etc to comepte with. The blow in point is well made-