Armagh Club football & hurling

[thewanderer]

with mackin and mc keeve available which i think will be regularily shortly they will beat almost all teams at home if they show the hunger and desire of last night. ogs still should have won the game easily but kicked at least 6 chances wide in the last 10 minutes and got a sucker punch at the end when the referee mr beds who is not up to refereeing senior football wrongly blew a foul against shorty clarke after a great clean catch. a good game for both teams and with a few more players returning from injury and most of the rest due back in the next 2 weeks the ogs will get stronger. only bad point is no 11, o hare is just a dirty player and took away from the spirit of the game.

[illdecide]

Has anyone any insight on how the b leagues are going this year? and what were the results from last night...

clans beat Eire Og last night in a re-fixture (not to sure of the exact score)

[winsamsoon]

Which O'Hare? I know Liam and he is a very good player. The other brother seems to be a bit of a hallion always leaving digs in. Hitting of the ball and accidently on purpose falling on people on the ground. He is renowned for this and it doesn't surprise me one bit. He is also very selective as to whom he does it on if you get my drift

[winsamsoon]

Score was 3-11 to 1-09 i think

[Candyman]

with mackin and mc keeve available which i think will be regularily shortly they will beat almost all teams at home if they show the hunger and desire of last night. ogs still should have won the game easily but kicked at least 6 chances wide in the last 10 minutes and got a sucker punch at the end when the referee mr beds who is not up to refereeing senior football wrongly blew a foul against shorty clarke after a great clean catch. a good game for both teams and with a few more players returning from injury and most of the rest due back in the next 2 weeks the ogs will get stronger. only bad point is no 11, o hare is just a dirty player and took away from the spirit of the game.

Complete Joke!! Even bigger joke is him telling some of our lads he played senior football for Killeavy for 15years... WTF??? 

[IVEDECIDED]

Speaking of refs I was at the Clans Harps minor game on Monday where the clans won 18-17 but the ref had it Harps 18-17! After the final whistle protests which in fact involved some Harps ones trying to tell him his mistake (Fair play to the ones beside us too) he decided on a draw.

Not that this was the right thing to do but given what he did later it would at least have been reasonable to give the draw - because when he got away out of everyones road he rang the result in as a Harps win!

Having said that his performance during the game makes this unsurprising. His decisions ruined a good minor game which would have been played in the right spirit and at a very fast pace only for him. Not sure who he was but he was well over weight and couldn even run after the play. I know refs can be scarce and I dont want to start another row about how difficult their job is but this is a joke - Are the county board going to sit back and constantly watch as incompetent officiating ruins the development of our game??

Ill be totally honest, such is my views on the state of refereeing in this county, it wouldnt take a lot to impress me so if a ref was anywhere near close to even trying to do it right I would be happy. So by that you can easily conclude how bad some of these guys are!!

[winsamsoon]

Are the county board going to sit back and constantly watch as incompetent officiating ruins the development of our game??

Nothing new here saan they have been sitting back watching it for years and these guys are still being permitted to ref games

[el_cuervo_fc]

Which O'Hare? I know Liam and he is a very good player. The other brother seems to be a bit of a hallion always leaving digs in. Hitting of the ball and accidently on purpose falling on people on the ground. He is renowned for this and it doesn't surprise me one bit. He is also very selective as to whom he does it on if you get my drift

No. 11 was Liam.

Sent off after two yellow cards, both of which should have been straight reds.  The first was a kick on one of our lads when he was on the ground, right in front of the ref.  The second was when one of our forwards were running through, he caught him clean in the face with his elbow.

[Sam of the Sarsfields]

Winsamsoon, I see you neglected to answer me in the Armagh v Monaghan thread. Maybe the discussion is more relevant now in this thread so I'll post it again.

Yes main i am a clansman

on the issue of Dyas i am going to make this my last post as i don't want to come across as slating the lad.

My original point of this debate centred on the fact that there are 7-8 players in Armagh that would do a better job than some of the lads on the current panel. There are footballers in Armagh that have footballing talent but are not neccessarily big men and they are being overlooked because they don't fit into the Armagh machine that has existed in the last decade.

I am a firm believer that players must prove themselves, they shouldn't be selected on name, reputation or events that have occured maybe 5 or 6 years ago. There have been players on the Armagh squad that have been brought in on these pretences. If i were running a county team i would select the players who are performing at present irregardless of size or any other factor. Players should have to prove themselves and if they are doing a job for theri club they should get a chance at county level.

Part of the problem within Armagh is that the county players don't get enough club football. There are teams that are going without county players for two to three week stretches and this is unacceptable. Other counties are having county players playing for their clubs 4 or 5 nights prior to championship games. Sure you run the risk of injury but that is the chance you take. At the same time all players are getting proper game time and the overall standard is increasing. I stick by my criticism of the selection processes in Armagh.

I've been informed that Dyas actually was on the panel and made his championship debut against Derry in 2007 before he went to Australia.

You make many sweeping statements about the standard of the current Armagh squad. Care to back up your argument with specifics?

Who are the 7-8 players in the county that should be on the panel? And who are the current Armagh squad members who are not there on merit that should be replaced?

[CountyGK]

UMHC Semi Final - Sun 13.06.10
Armagh v Down
@ Casement Park, 1 30pm

All support welcome!

[thewanderer]

unfortunately wont be much of a crowd now that london are not playin down in the senior game, but that might suit armagh minors as they wouldnt be used to playing in front of a big crowd?

[thewanderer]

Which O'Hare? I know Liam and he is a very good player. The other brother seems to be a bit of a hallion always leaving digs in. Hitting of the ball and accidently on purpose falling on people on the ground. He is renowned for this and it doesn't surprise me one bit. He is also very selective as to whom he does it on if you get my drift

No. 11 was Liam.

Sent off after two yellow cards, both of which should have been straight reds.  The first was a kick on one of our lads when he was on the ground, right in front of the ref.  The second was when one of our forwards were running through, he caught him clean in the face with his elbow.

what did expect with a second rate referee who is easily intimidated and doesnt know the rules.  el did o hare not also elbow chris rafferty when both fell to the ground. a complete thug but he will get his rewards some day on the field as most clubs are aware of his thuggish play.

[illdecide]

Which O'Hare? I know Liam and he is a very good player. The other brother seems to be a bit of a hallion always leaving digs in. Hitting of the ball and accidently on purpose falling on people on the ground. He is renowned for this and it doesn't surprise me one bit. He is also very selective as to whom he does it on if you get my drift

No. 11 was Liam.

Sent off after two yellow cards, both of which should have been straight reds.  The first was a kick on one of our lads when he was on the ground, right in front of the ref.  The second was when one of our forwards were running through, he caught him clean in the face with his elbow.

what did expect with a second rate referee who is easily intimidated and doesnt know the rules.  el did o hare not also elbow chris rafferty when both fell to the ground. a complete thug but he will get his rewards some day on the field as most clubs are aware of his thuggish play.

Our CHB marked Liam last year in Cullyhanna and he didn't try any hitting or off the ball stuff with him, although this isn't the first time i've heard about him throwing his weight about

[el_cuervo_fc]

Which O'Hare? I know Liam and he is a very good player. The other brother seems to be a bit of a hallion always leaving digs in. Hitting of the ball and accidently on purpose falling on people on the ground. He is renowned for this and it doesn't surprise me one bit. He is also very selective as to whom he does it on if you get my drift

No. 11 was Liam.

Sent off after two yellow cards, both of which should have been straight reds.  The first was a kick on one of our lads when he was on the ground, right in front of the ref.  The second was when one of our forwards were running through, he caught him clean in the face with his elbow.

what did expect with a second rate referee who is easily intimidated and doesnt know the rules.  el did o hare not also elbow chris rafferty when both fell to the ground. a complete thug but he will get his rewards some day on the field as most clubs are aware of his thuggish play.

He did. 

[winsamsoon]

The other brother is worse lads a complete hallion. Sam if you read back a few pages in that thread you will see y I ain't answering that. This thread is for club football lad so it's best kept that way