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Doogie Browser

What of John Terry then?
Sky sports news were saying that his silence over the Man City link hints at an interest from him to listen at least?...

Archie Mitchell

John Terry and Mark Hughes were on holiday in the same resort last week in Dubai, before City's bid went in on Thursday night.

Norf Tyrone

Quote from: Doogie Browser on July 06, 2009, 11:17:26 AM
What of John Terry then?
Sky sports news were saying that his silence over the Man City link hints at an interest from him to listen at least?...

Personally. I think it's shite, but who knows. What about Ashley Young's silence about his move to the Bridge, or Mascherano's silence about heading to Barce. Players can't come out every time there is speculation and deny the links. Otherwise they'd be in front of the press every day.

What I do know, is that Chelsea should report City to the FA at this stage. Chelsea have quite rightly been hauled over the coals for misbehaviour in the transfer market, and what City (Reportedly) are doing now breaks FA laws.
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Archie Mitchell

I think I read somewhere that City seem to think they have acted accordingly. Not sure how they work that out though.

I think its fair to say though that all players are tapped up in some way. Some more so than others.


Archie Mitchell

Been here before with City offering big money and wages, but not sure it would be enough to tempt Terry away from the Bridge. He is Chelsea through and through and hard to see him leave this late in his career.

Good article on Chelsea's own Peter K. That man is a clown.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-1197668/Chelsea-s-Peter-K-funnier-original.html

Norf Tyrone

Quote from: Archie Mitchell on July 06, 2009, 02:29:31 PM
I think I read somewhere that City seem to think they have acted accordingly. Not sure how they work that out though.

I think its fair to say though that all players are tapped up in some way. Some more so than others.

I think there is a rule that states that clubs must NOT bid for a player after the other club categorically state that he is not for sale. It's sort of anti-unsettling clause.
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Minder

What do you make of Terry pimping himself to City Norf? Leverage for a new deal at Chelsea or head turned by a possible £250k p/w ?
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Norf Tyrone

Quote from: Minder on July 13, 2009, 01:06:30 PM
What do you make of Terry pimping himself to City Norf? Leverage for a new deal at Chelsea or head turned by a possible £250k p/w ?

Sorry I was away all day. What happened today? What did Terry say?
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Archie Mitchell

He hasn't said anything which is adding to the rumours. Think he met with the club on Saturday to discuss his future. It seems a bit odd that him or Chelsea hasn't come out to say that he's staying. From what I've read, he has become disillusioned with Chelsea constantly changing managers, no big name signings and a new challenge with City.

ONeill

Hugh's rarely too far off the mark:

Poor little rich boy
Hugh McIlvanney
Sunday Times

Apparently a major reason for the absence of a clear response from John Terry to Manchester City's money-laden overtures is the uneasiness stirred in the Chelsea captain by a sense that his present employers aren't doing enough to demonstrate their eagerness to keep him at Stamford Bridge. Isn't that poignant? Surely nobody at Chelsea is sufficiently insensitive to imagine that paying Terry a wage generally estimated at upwards of £130,000 per week can be regarded as adequate proof of the kind of cherishing he seemingly needs.

Isn't it an unbearable insult that the club owner, Roman Abramovich, hasn't personally backed up, preferably with hugs and manly Russian kisses, the uncharacteristically gushing assurances volunteered by the newly arrived manager, Carlo Ancelotti? The Italian waxed lyrical about Terry as a leader and inspiring symbol he sees as inseparable from his plans for Chelsea. But shouldn't the expression of loving appreciation take the form of a raising of the captain's wages to a level that relates more favourably to the gargantuan sums (guesses range from £200,000 to £300,000 a week) quoted in connection with Manchester City's bid for his services? You don't think so? Neither do I.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Norf Tyrone

There are really three schools of thought.

1. City have bid £30 to £40 million for Terry. Chelsea have turned it down. After the first offer, Chelsea told JT about the offer, and he stated his desire to remain at Chelsea for life. Terry nor Chelsea feel they are obliged to report to the press every five minutes that he still wants to stay at the Bridge.

2. City have bid £30 to £40 million for Terry. Chelsea have turned it down. After the first offer, Chelsea told JT about the offer, and he stated his desire to remain at Chelsea for life. Since then Terry (And agent) have hatched a plan to use this as a way of getting a extra few quid a week from Chelsea.

3. City have bid £30 to £40 million for Terry. Chelsea have turned it down. After the first offer, Chelsea told JT about the offer, and he stated his desire to remain at Chelsea for life. Since then City have tapped Terry up, and tempted him with a MASSIVE hike in wages. Terry wants the money. However he doesn't want to appear like a mercenary, so he needs Chelsea to accept an offer. Chelsea don't want to look like they are flogging their captain, so need Terry to hand in a transfer request.


I have seen very few direct quotes that give substance to numbers 2 and 3. Loads of a source said, Terry is believed to, and a City/Chelsea insider has said. However IF 'Mr Chelsea' wants more money, and more loyalty than the £125,000 a week he is currently on, I'll be happy to see him leave and take the £30 million.

It also be another nail in football's coffin for me.
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ONeill

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 13, 2009, 08:53:44 PM
There are really three schools of thought.

1. City have bid £30 to £40 million for Terry. Chelsea have turned it down. After the first offer, Chelsea told JT about the offer, and he stated his desire to remain at Chelsea for life. Terry nor Chelsea feel they are obliged to report to the press every five minutes that he still wants to stay at the Bridge.

2. City have bid £30 to £40 million for Terry. Chelsea have turned it down. After the first offer, Chelsea told JT about the offer, and he stated his desire to remain at Chelsea for life. Since then Terry (And agent) have hatched a plan to use this as a way of getting a extra few quid a week from Chelsea.

3. City have bid £30 to £40 million for Terry. Chelsea have turned it down. After the first offer, Chelsea told JT about the offer, and he stated his desire to remain at Chelsea for life. Since then City have tapped Terry up, and tempted him with a MASSIVE hike in wages. Terry wants the money. However he doesn't want to appear like a mercenary, so he needs Chelsea to accept an offer. Chelsea don't want to look like they are flogging their captain, so need Terry to hand in a transfer request.


I have seen very few direct quotes that give substance to numbers 2 and 3. Loads of a source said, Terry is believed to, and a City/Chelsea insider has said. However IF 'Mr Chelsea' wants more money, and more loyalty than the £125,000 a week he is currently on, I'll be happy to see him leave and take the £30 million.

It also be another nail in football's coffin for me.

Excellent post. The only credance you could offer for Terry's supposed dithering is the complete managerial uncertainty year after year under Abramovich, something that surely'd piss the long-term players off.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Minder

#988
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on July 13, 2009, 07:53:45 PM
Quote from: Minder on July 13, 2009, 01:06:30 PM
What do you make of Terry pimping himself to City Norf? Leverage for a new deal at Chelsea or head turned by a possible £250k p/w ?

Sorry I was away all day. What happened today? What did Terry say?

Chelsea tell Terry to put up or shut up - Sunday Times

Roman Abramovich met John Terry yesterday as Chelsea called their captain's bluff over his highly public flirtation with Manchester City. The Russian billionaire will reject a third, £30m-plus bid for their captain this week and has told Terry there is no intention of matching City's offer to double his pay to £250,000 a week.

While Abramovich is ready to make Terry the best-paid player at Stamford Bridge, Chelsea's owner will not go significantly beyond the £150,000-a-week salary granted to Frank Lampard last summer. For his part, Terry is understood to have requested permission to speak openly with City about their plans. Chelsea denied that was the case last night. There have already been significant under-the-table discussions and the England international has asked football dealmaker Chris Nathaniel to help negotiate with City.

Nathaniel already represents Robinho, City's current best-paid player, and Micah Richards. He has previously secured Terry a lucrative book deal, works extensively with his England teammate Rio Ferdinand and last season fronted a Nigerian takeover bid for Newcastle United that came to nothing.

Terry's advisers say he has been disquieted by the time it took Chelsea to contact him after initial news of City's bid broke, and that he has had to wait a week to speak directly with Abramovich. They do not rule out the possibility of the centre-back joining City.

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Should Terry decide to place Sheikh Mansour's petrobillions ahead of his frequently stated devotion to Chelsea, the London club will force Terry to hand in a formal transfer request and make clear that the player is the driving force behind a move.

City remain confident that Terry will be their player before the new Premier League season begins. The England captain spent part of a recent holiday in Dubai with Mark Hughes and their manager believes that Terry is unhappy with Chelsea's failure to add top-class players to their squad and a lack of consultation over Carlo Ancelotti's appointment.

When City made their first unsuccessful bid for Terry in January, the player's agent, Aaron Lincoln, was negotiating the transfer of Wayne Bridge to Eastlands. During that period, Terry had expressed his discontent with the training methods of Luiz Felipe Scolari, Chelsea manager at the time, and a message was sent to City that the central defender "wanted out".

Hughes is in the market for two centre-backs and has calculated that Terry can reinforce his defence, providing leadership to what has been an often fragile team while satisfying his employer's desire for a star signing. City's decision on Friday to withdraw an offer for Barcelona striker Samuel Eto'o was believed to be partly motivated by their belief that Terry will go through with his exit from Chelsea.

Chelsea believe Terry is using City's overtures as a means of further improving his financial position and status at Stamford Bridge, and that the 29-year-old has no serious interest of leaving.

It would certainly be politically difficult for Terry to be seen as the instigator of a move away from a club with whom he has fashioned a public image of slavish loyalty. Talking in February about City's initial bid for him, Terry said: "Chelsea told me what had happened as a courtesy. I was very happy with their reaction, as mine would have been the same. I have always said that I want to end my career at the club which I love and we all see no reason why that cannot happen."

Though Terry has had several injuries in recent seasons, Chelsea continue to insist he is "not for sale at any price". The club are, however, mindful of dealings with Terry over his last contract talks in 2007, when he signed a five-year deal.

During those negotiations, Terry asked for a 10-year contract that included a clause guaranteeing he would be the club's best-paid player for the duration of the deal. The defender also wanted an option to become Chelsea's manager when he retired from playing.
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Norf Tyrone

Young Miroslav Stoch away to Twente on loan. Good move for him. Rumours that Di Santo will join Blackburn on loan also floating about.

The Blues away to the U S of A today, and play Seattle on Saturday night. Some young centre half called Sean Terry or something has travelled I believe. Joe Cole has not gone, due to a minor operation.

Others of note going are, Sheva, Pizarro, and youngster Sam Hutchinson among the 26 man squad. Yuri Zhirkov to join the tour next week.
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