Armagh Club football & hurling

[corn02]

a bit late entering this argument, but i would have dromintee ahead of og's in the ranking.
When was the last year a team other than crossmaglen knocked them out of the senior championship and i can only think of one occasion where dromintee and ogs went head to head in championship and drom won.
Fair enough i think it was well back possibly 2003 for semi final in silverbridge.
But i always feel that dromintee if they had 15 men on form on the day could take cross, however i think its turned into a mental block at this stage for dromintee and frustratingly dont think the current team will ever beat them. esp now the dyas factor is gone (temporarily in my opinion)

And thier have undoubtedly been times when dromintee should have taken cross particularily in silverbridge 2007 cross managed to scrape a replay and then detroyed them the next day.

But i think Cullyhanna are a good three years off seriously challenging cross they have a couple of passengers on that team.

Have the nab not had a few great underage teams come/coming through in the last few years.

Not getting into the argument because I think there is little between a lot of clubs but to answer your question, the last team to beat us other than Cross I think was Ogs in 2000.

[TacadoirArdMhacha]

Cullyhana definitely won it. I think it may have been round 2003 - ish.

correct saan

2002 I think.

[pintsofguinness]

I think it will be still quite a while before an Armagh team beat cross in the championship because all some people seem to be interested in is who's second best.   

[corn02]

I think it will be still quite a while before an Armagh team beat cross in the championship because all some people seem to be interested in is who's second best.   

Wow, you fairly missed the point there completely.

[pintsofguinness]

how so?

[corn02]

Just because Cross are out on their own it does not mean you can not discuss the merits of certain teams. It is not a competition to see who is second best, it is discussing strenths and weaknesses of teams which happens in every sport in every league across the globe.

Every team being mentioned is aiming to be number one, so nobody is fighting it out to be second best. But I would rather a bit of a realistic attitude instead of teams saying they were better than Cross when they are not.

[pintsofguinness]

All I see is yet another discussion on who's second best. 

[Smokin Joe]

All I see is yet another discussion on who's second best. 

So you think there needs to be a discussion about who is the best?

[pintsofguinness]

Nope, who is best is very clear.

[IVEDECIDED]

Well lads hows the Clans pre-season preparations going?

Very well IVEDECIDED...only lost 1 match to a very strong Derry team. It looks like Marsden and O Hagan won't be missed after all...and these new lads are only cubs so we should have them for the next decade

I thought it would be a few years before bumpy and grumpy would be replaced.  Anyhow glad to hear its going well someone told me theres 12 of the panel in their first year of senior football? Is that true?

[corn02]

All I see is yet another discussion on who's second best. 

You're not looking very closely then. Do you not agree that teams can discuss their merits against each other irrespective of league standing , etc?

[pintsofguinness]

All I see is yet another discussion on who's second best. 

You're not looking very closely then. Do you not agree that teams can discuss their merits against each other irrespective of league standing , etc?

Yeah if there's not an underlying motive to discover or argue about who's second best. 

[corn02]

All I see is yet another discussion on who's second best. 

You're not looking very closely then. Do you not agree that teams can discuss their merits against each other irrespective of league standing , etc?

Yeah if there's not an underlying motive to discover or argue about who's second best. 

Jesus maybe you are looking too hard instead of not closely.

If that is ho you see it, so be it.

[ogshead]

Going by what I have noticed it does seem like a discussion on who's second best. I think it's a pointless argument. Any of the teams outside of Cross are all capable of beating each other and as an Ogs man I know that we are not the only challengers. The Ogs haven't played Dromintee in Championship football since the 2003 semi final in Ballymacnab so it's not the Ogs' fault for the draw not pairing us up. I believe that any game between the two teams would go down to the wire. Going by the amount of county players we have been going through in the last few years with a couple of All Stars on top of that I'm a bit disappointed that we haven't at least one county title. Everyones always going to be biased and say that their team will do this and that. I know for a fact that if the Ogs play the Harps in the championship that it wouldn't be an easy match, I still think that we'd win as you would expect being a supporter of the team. Also I'd like to add that I admire Dromintee for the way they keep coming back every year. I know with the Ogs there was a couple of attempts and then it took a few years before we came back with another challenge. But on the whole there's not much between any of the teams at the top. Second place though is a bit of an embarrassing argument on Armagh club football's behalf

[brokencrossbar1]

Snigger,snigger,snigger