Armagh Club football & hurling

[billy the kid]

Cross by 4+ unfortunately I think. Don't see the Athletic Grounds as ebing anything more than the slightest of advantages for Ógs, and certainly not to the same extent as games in Cross suited Rangers. Wasn't overly impressed by the Ógs against Killeavy and I don't think Cross have really gotten out of 3rd gear yet.

I agree Tac.  Ogs looked pretty average in the semi against a very very poor killeavey team that they struggled to put away despite the amout of possession they had. Killeavey were still in with a shout right up until the end and if S McDonnell had taken one of those goal chances it could have been a very different story.  Only R Clarke, who was on fire that day, Mc kinney and A Mallon looked better than the very poor opposition they were facing.

I honestly think Cross have still another gear or 2 in them and as much as Ogs winning would help the game in Armagh they have problems at mid-field and what do they do if clarke isnt scoring 1-5 or 1-6? They dont have enough ascoring forwards from what Ive seen of them and I think Cross will win but it will be tighter than last year...I hope.

Ps. Hope OGs fans dont start that booing and jeering they were at in the semi, when opposition are hitting frees, its not soccer and there is no place for that crap in our games. I have only ever heard that rubbish twice before and it was from Monaghan supporters who are usually mouths with no manners, both times.  

[full back]

Has the injuries that Cross had cleared up?
Will Mc Kenna & Oisin start?

[MrTaylor]

4 of the Harps minors can actually win the championship double when the minor hurling final is on next saturday. Just wondering if the double has been done before?

Happened in 1981, 1982 and 1983. Ógs and Cúchulainns both won three in a row. A lot of guys from that period have three football and three hurling.

Is minor final definitely next Saturday, and what is venue?

[RealSpiritof98]

4 of the Harps minors can actually win the championship double when the minor hurling final is on next saturday. Just wondering if the double has been done before?

Happened in 1981, 1982 and 1983. Ógs and Cúchulainns both won three in a row. A lot of guys from that period have three football and three hurling.

Is minor final definitely next Saturday, and what is venue?

The venue has still to be arranged but I think the Athletic Grounds has been Marked for it. It on next Saturday but if the Harps Minors draw then it could be put back. Middletown are big favourates, but we'll see what happens.

[Candyman]

Heart Cross, heads not sure yet.  Will Og's be driven by past failures to undo some of their perceived injustices?  Will they use the feel good factor from Clarkie's All Star to motivate them even further?  Will Cross be Cross and drive on in a final like they always do or will the pressure of the magnitude of teh game get to some of them?  If the minors win, which they could, will they build on the confidence that they garner from that and win it out?  So many variables!!!

On an aside to the whole thing, a fact came out of the semis that I doubt if too many here have realised in regards to the all new Athletic Grounds.  Cross were not able to tog out in the changing rooms of the wonderful new facility.  There are 4 dressing rooms and no referees room, therefore the ref had to change in one of the rooms.  Cross togged out in Callinbridge, did their warm up and arrived tooged out.  They had no changing room as the other game wasn't finished.  This is a disgrace that this can happen at a place where so much money has been invested.  The whole lot should have been sold 10 years ago to a developer, as was suggested at the time, and a new greenfield site developed.  The visionaries that are the county board threw this back and although it may seem like a great venture it is well short of requirements yet.

Cross minors by 2

Cross seniors by 3

It was the same for Ná Claírsígh. BTW there are now only 2 dressing rooms as the previous 4 were too small so they knocked 2 into 1 on each side. There is also a referees room, where our players had to use the only toilet available..... 

[BenDover]

We were in the changing rooms the Thursday night before your game Candyman and all the facilities were working fine then, maybe a bit of scullduggery between the thurs and the sunday

[Candyman]

I would suggest the fact that both Pearse Og and Killeavy were in the changing rooms at the time had something to do with it...
I didnt say the facilities were not working, I stated the referee's toilet was the ONLY 1 available at that time!! 

[brokencrossbar1]

Heart Cross, heads not sure yet.  Will Og's be driven by past failures to undo some of their perceived injustices?  Will they use the feel good factor from Clarkie's All Star to motivate them even further?  Will Cross be Cross and drive on in a final like they always do or will the pressure of the magnitude of teh game get to some of them?  If the minors win, which they could, will they build on the confidence that they garner from that and win it out?  So many variables!!!

On an aside to the whole thing, a fact came out of the semis that I doubt if too many here have realised in regards to the all new Athletic Grounds.  Cross were not able to tog out in the changing rooms of the wonderful new facility.  There are 4 dressing rooms and no referees room, therefore the ref had to change in one of the rooms.  Cross togged out in Callinbridge, did their warm up and arrived tooged out.  They had no changing room as the other game wasn't finished.  This is a disgrace that this can happen at a place where so much money has been invested.  The whole lot should have been sold 10 years ago to a developer, as was suggested at the time, and a new greenfield site developed.  The visionaries that are the county board threw this back and although it may seem like a great venture it is well short of requirements yet.

Cross minors by 2

Cross seniors by 3

It was the same for Ná Claírsígh. BTW there are now only 2 dressing rooms as the previous 4 were too small so they knocked 2 into 1 on each side. There is also a referees room, where our players had to use the only toilet available..... 

It's worse than I thought then.  This field is not fit for a double header of any kind whenever this is the state of play.  On Sunday, obviously Cross Minors and seniors can use one room, but will Harps and the Ogs share as well? 

[el_cuervo_fc]

It's worse than I thought then.  This field is not fit for a double header of any kind whenever this is the state of play.  On Sunday, obviously Cross Minors and seniors can use one room, but will Harps and the Ogs share as well? 

Share the spoils? 

[brokencrossbar1]

It's worse than I thought then.  This field is not fit for a double header of any kind whenever this is the state of play.  On Sunday, obviously Cross Minors and seniors can use one room, but will Harps and the Ogs share as well? 

Share the spoils? 

maybe??

[full back]

Have Cross a full panel to choose from bc?

[BenDover]

I'm sure if youse hada asked nicely Candyman The Ogs woulda let ye's use their toilets, the sight of a few Harpsmen kacking themselves would bring a smile to anyones face 

[brokencrossbar1]

Have Cross a full panel to choose from bc?

Haven't been speaking to anyone this week.  There were a few doubts at the weekend so don't know if they have cleared up yet.  Don't think David will be fit to start though.

[winsamsoon]

Can someone explain to me the involvement of the og's and the new athletic grounds. Do the og's own it?? will they be returning to it as there home pitch??? If so what will happen to Ballycrummy??

[Candyman]

Can someone explain to me the involvement of the og's and the new athletic grounds. Do the og's own it?? will they be returning to it as there home pitch??? If so what will happen to Ballycrummy??

Pearse Og never had a pitch of their own and always used the athletic grounds for home games. They then got hold of Ballycrummy on long term lease and that is their home venue.