Hurling 2025

Started by marty34, January 11, 2025, 11:05:26 AM

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Bord na Mona man

The scoreline exaggerates the difference between the sides. Dublin did ok if a lot of parts of the game. Conceding goals every few minutes punctures a team's morale and eventually they lose the will to keep chasing.

Cork isolated the Dublin full back line and rained down a lot of quick and early ball in there. The interplay of the Cork FF was excellent too. Maybe Dublin should have got a sweeper back there earlier to shore up the FB line, but no team expects to concede 7 in an AISF and then suddenly it happens.

RedHand88

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2025, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 05, 2025, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2025, 08:16:58 PM
Quote from: The Trap on July 05, 2025, 06:34:10 PMAs a sporting contest its absolutely terrible.
Antrim used to be more competitive in all ireland semi finals!
But sure these are the sort of scorefests some people find entertaining.


So Armaghs drubbing last week was ok but today was wrong?

Looking forward to Tyrone's game next

Armagh lost by 8 and there was nothing in it at half time.
Today Dublin lost by 20(!) And it was over after 20mins.

If Armagh bothered with hurling the scores would be higher again, but they, like Tyrone and so on don't bother giving it an equal approach, football is easier to play.

Just need to be physically big and fit to play football, but there's a skill level requirement for hurling, required effort though

Is that why Antrim don't bother with Hurling either?

Saffrongael

Tim O'Mahoney is some athlete, constantly getting ahead of the ball
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

marty34

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on July 05, 2025, 10:08:02 PMThe scoreline exaggerates the difference between the sides. Dublin did ok if a lot of parts of the game. Conceding goals every few minutes punctures a team's morale and eventually they lose the will to keep chasing.

Cork isolated the Dublin full back line and rained down a lot of quick and early ball in there. The interplay of the Cork FF was excellent too. Maybe Dublin should have got a sweeper back there earlier to shore up the FB line, but no team expects to concede 7 in an AISF and then suddenly it happens.

In fairness to Ó'Ceallacháin and the Dublin management, they went for it. Didn't go with sweeper so fair play to them. They knew the ball over top in front of that Cork ff line would create goal chances....and it certainly did!

But I admire Dublin for that - easiest thing would be to park the bus and sit back etc. Dublin actually played well. Cork were just different class today. Goals win matches. Ferghal Whiteley hit the bar at a crucial stage in first half but then Cork pushed on until half-time. Would have been interesting to see what would have happened if that shot had had hit the net.

It's all on the day. Like Dublin today, after coming off a high of the Limerick game in Croke Park, Cork will be in the same boat V Tipp/KK in 2 weeks.

Looking forward to see Tipp V KK. Hopefully be a cracker. 

Truthsayer

Quote from: Dag Dog on July 05, 2025, 08:53:45 PMHow did Limerick manage to lose to that Dublin team? Today makes Limerick's loss even more of a disgrace.
Well if that don't bate all.. labelling your county a disgrace for one shock defeat after winning five of the last seven All Ireland titles and multiple All Stars. And hadn't won an All Ireland before this era since 1973! You must have been some player sur..

Milltown Row2

Quote from: RedHand88 on July 05, 2025, 10:34:25 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2025, 09:12:23 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 05, 2025, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 05, 2025, 08:16:58 PM
Quote from: The Trap on July 05, 2025, 06:34:10 PMAs a sporting contest its absolutely terrible.
Antrim used to be more competitive in all ireland semi finals!
But sure these are the sort of scorefests some people find entertaining.


So Armaghs drubbing last week was ok but today was wrong?

Looking forward to Tyrone's game next

Armagh lost by 8 and there was nothing in it at half time.
Today Dublin lost by 20(!) And it was over after 20mins.

If Armagh bothered with hurling the scores would be higher again, but they, like Tyrone and so on don't bother giving it an equal approach, football is easier to play.

Just need to be physically big and fit to play football, but there's a skill level requirement for hurling, required effort though

Is that why Antrim don't bother with Hurling either?

When was the last time Tyrone played div one Hurling?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought.

Wildweasel74

The problem with ulster teams is there so few of them ,what's in Derry 10? Should be 20. Tyrone got what 5/6? Should be the same. The problem is there's nobody in clubs with hurling bck grounds to successfully start a club hurling team up and keep it going.

Brendan

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 06, 2025, 02:44:38 AMThe problem with ulster teams is there so few of them ,what's in Derry 10? Should be 20. Tyrone got what 5/6? Should be the same. The problem is there's nobody in clubs with hurling bck grounds to successfully start a club hurling team up and keep it going.

Derry with 9 adult teams now St Finbarrs have broken through but will soon return to 8 when Coleraine fold their hurling team. Outside of that any of the new clubs are a long way off having senior teams

marty34

Quote from: Wildweasel74 on July 06, 2025, 02:44:38 AMThe problem with ulster teams is there so few of them ,what's in Derry 10? Should be 20. Tyrone got what 5/6? Should be the same. The problem is there's nobody in clubs with hurling bck grounds to successfully start a club hurling team up and keep it going.

Tyrone and Donegal have more hurling clubs than Derry I'd say.

Especially at underage.

Premier Emperor

Fair play to the Cork supporters who travelled in big numbers to such a non-event.
The 3rd placed out of the Leinster championship vs. the Munster champions will always be a huge mismatch on paper, and today it was a huge mismatch on the field.


Premier Emperor

Today is a great opportunity for Tipp. Cork are now unbackable favourites to win the All Ireland. They'll never be able to control the hype. They'll forget how easily controllable their full forward line is when they meet a proper defence.

People claiming that Tipp aren't ready yet don't understand that when we face our dreaded enemies, our desire to sicken them makes every Tipp player a foot taller and a yard faster.
Every doubt and question raised about Tipp this year has been answered. We're going in today with the hurling world expecting a Kilkenny win and that will allow us play with freedom.

It's been too long since the roof was lifted off Croke Park with the cries of "Tipp, Tipp, Tipp". Today we'll be putting right a lot of wrongs.

mouview

Quote from: Premier Emperor on July 06, 2025, 10:04:05 AMToday is a great opportunity for Tipp. Cork are now unbackable favourites to win the All Ireland. They'll never be able to control the hype. They'll forget how easily controllable their full forward line is when they meet a proper defence.

People claiming that Tipp aren't ready yet don't understand that when we face our dreaded enemies, our desire to sicken them makes every Tipp player a foot taller and a yard faster.
Every doubt and question raised about Tipp this year has been answered. We're going in today with the hurling world expecting a Kilkenny win and that will allow us play with freedom.

It's been too long since the roof was lifted off Croke Park with the cries of "Tipp, Tipp, Tipp". Today we'll be putting right a lot of wrongs.

Sounds rather like a dispatch from Kim Jong-Un's propaganda dept.

johnnycool

Quote from: marty34 on July 05, 2025, 10:52:29 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on July 05, 2025, 10:08:02 PMThe scoreline exaggerates the difference between the sides. Dublin did ok if a lot of parts of the game. Conceding goals every few minutes punctures a team's morale and eventually they lose the will to keep chasing.

Cork isolated the Dublin full back line and rained down a lot of quick and early ball in there. The interplay of the Cork FF was excellent too. Maybe Dublin should have got a sweeper back there earlier to shore up the FB line, but no team expects to concede 7 in an AISF and then suddenly it happens.

In fairness to Ó'Ceallacháin and the Dublin management, they went for it. Didn't go with sweeper so fair play to them. They knew the ball over top in front of that Cork ff line would create goal chances....and it certainly did!

But I admire Dublin for that - easiest thing would be to park the bus and sit back etc. Dublin actually played well. Cork were just different class today. Goals win matches. Ferghal Whiteley hit the bar at a crucial stage in first half but then Cork pushed on until half-time. Would have been interesting to see what would have happened if that shot had had hit the net.

It's all on the day. Like Dublin today, after coming off a high of the Limerick game in Croke Park, Cork will be in the same boat V Tipp/KK in 2 weeks.

Looking forward to see Tipp V KK. Hopefully be a cracker. 

Dublin IMO got it wrong along the sideline.  They dropped off the Cork half back line allowing them to put the ball on a plate for their forwards who made serious hay.  Thought the yellows for the two Dublin lads were harsh and changed their attitude to full blooded tackling.
Clare showed how to get about this Cork team by not giving them an inch all over the park.  Teams that drop off against Cork get punished.
Dublin made an awful lot of unforced errors themselves and didn't give big Hetherington much to work with.

Fair play to Cork, they know how to rack up big scores and will be confident of picking up Liam in a few weeks time.

Now for the silver medal game   ;)

Captain Obvious

The accent on your wan on RTE is awful. 

Cyril Farrell fan

Kilkenny half line cleaning up. Tipp at nothing apart from the goal.