All Ireland Championship 2025.

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AustinPowers

Thinking back now , I don't know why Rafferty didn't drive it as far as he could down the  field. He's easily capable  of hitting beyond midfield. Spread the game ,  push Kerry back. Get them away from the Armagh goal/arc

Yes, Kerry might still have won  the same amount of ball as they did , but they woukd have been further  away from  goals to do damage.  And as someone said , a  breaking ball  falling luckily could mean Conaty/McMullan etc  on his way towards the Kerry goal

Those couple of balls  going over the sideline gave Kerry  huge energy

tiempo

Quote from: AustinPowers on July 03, 2025, 12:41:43 PMThinking back now , I don't know why Rafferty didn't drive it as far as he could down the  field. He's easily capable  of hitting beyond midfield. Spread the game ,  push Kerry back. Get them away from the Armagh goal/arc

Yes, Kerry might still have won  the same amount of ball as they did , but they woukd have been further  away from  goals to do damage.  And as someone said , a  breaking ball  falling luckily could mean Conaty/McMullan etc  on his way towards the Kerry goal

Those couple of balls  going over the sideline gave Kerry  huge energy

Aiming for a target within a few yards of the sideline is beyond me too, once in a while maybe yes if someone is in space or on the run where you kick it into their path, but static targets with practically zero margin for error just seems silly, there was plenty of it over the weekend from a few teams, trying to create these sexy precision set piece plays at times when its not needed

omagh_gael

Was ego at play re Rafferty and risky kick outs? Would be hard not to buy into it.

I watched the first half of our game v Kerry in 2021 when Moran was still going strong for kingdom. Nearly every kick from Morgan went well beyond midfield. Now we lost plenty of them but Kerry got very little joy as they were too far away for a long ball into FF. We mainly went man to man in FB line as well so it wasn't as if there was a Donegal style mass retreat to flood the D.

tiempo

Big Finbar had it right the whole time with the rugby boots and a toe-hoke as high and far as humanly possible

DaleCooper

Morgan was incredible in that game and still he had a couple of big errors. Tyrones long kicking that year was incredible, they'll be hoping for some new tactical innovation to wrong foot the Kingdom.

DaleCooper

Quote from: omagh_gael on July 03, 2025, 02:57:09 PMWas ego at play re Rafferty and risky kick outs? Would be hard not to buy into it.

I watched the first half of our game v Kerry in 2021 when Moran was still going strong for kingdom. Nearly every kick from Morgan went well beyond midfield. Now we lost plenty of them but Kerry got very little joy as they were too far away for a long ball into FF. We mainly went man to man in FB line as well so it wasn't as if there was a Donegal style mass retreat to flood the D.

Rafferty definitely has swagger, some would say arrogance but I like players having a bit of dimension. Wish we had more rather than this sanitised "community hero" mould they all have to fit into.

AustinPowers

Quote from: tiempo on July 03, 2025, 03:04:31 PMBig Finbar had it right the whole time with the rugby boots and a toe-hoke as high and far as humanly possible

Aye, the Big Jack way.  People scoffed at him but he was  right

With the new rules, when you're playing the ball  to the corner back , and trying to work it out , your  passing and handling  from everyone has to be spot  on. One fumble, and the ball could be in your  net

These new kick out rules  are here to stay , and kick outs are now 50/50. So is it not better, just  to hoof it as far as you can?  Put it into the opposing half and  scrap like feck for it.  One fumble from  them/, and you're in on  their goal . I think that's what Armagh should have  done

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greatpoint

Quote from: tiempo on July 03, 2025, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 03, 2025, 12:41:43 PMThinking back now , I don't know why Rafferty didn't drive it as far as he could down the  field. He's easily capable  of hitting beyond midfield. Spread the game ,  push Kerry back. Get them away from the Armagh goal/arc

Yes, Kerry might still have won  the same amount of ball as they did , but they woukd have been further  away from  goals to do damage.  And as someone said , a  breaking ball  falling luckily could mean Conaty/McMullan etc  on his way towards the Kerry goal

Those couple of balls  going over the sideline gave Kerry  huge energy

Aiming for a target within a few yards of the sideline is beyond me too, once in a while maybe yes if someone is in space or on the run where you kick it into their path, but static targets with practically zero margin for error just seems silly, there was plenty of it over the weekend from a few teams, trying to create these sexy precision set piece plays at times when its not needed

The idea is that if the kickout misses its target the ball is more than likely going to go dead; a safer alternative to losing the kickout directly to the opposition with the ball in play.

clonian

Quote from: tiempo on July 03, 2025, 03:04:31 PMBig Finbar had it right the whole time with the rugby boots and a toe-hoke as high and far as humanly possible

Casement Park 1999 stands out for me - Mickey McVeigh and Finbar tried the whole game to hit each other with a kick out - absolute boomers straight down the middle for the whole game.

clonian

Quote from: greatpoint on July 03, 2025, 05:00:11 PM
Quote from: tiempo on July 03, 2025, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 03, 2025, 12:41:43 PMThinking back now , I don't know why Rafferty didn't drive it as far as he could down the  field. He's easily capable  of hitting beyond midfield. Spread the game ,  push Kerry back. Get them away from the Armagh goal/arc

Yes, Kerry might still have won  the same amount of ball as they did , but they woukd have been further  away from  goals to do damage.  And as someone said , a  breaking ball  falling luckily could mean Conaty/McMullan etc  on his way towards the Kerry goal

Those couple of balls  going over the sideline gave Kerry  huge energy

Aiming for a target within a few yards of the sideline is beyond me too, once in a while maybe yes if someone is in space or on the run where you kick it into their path, but static targets with practically zero margin for error just seems silly, there was plenty of it over the weekend from a few teams, trying to create these sexy precision set piece plays at times when its not needed

The idea is that if the kickout misses its target the ball is more than likely going to go dead; a safer alternative to losing the kickout directly to the opposition with the ball in play.

That sounds like it's right but with a big crowd getting on it, the ball over the side line feels like a turnover

BigGreenField

Quote from: clonian on July 03, 2025, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: tiempo on July 03, 2025, 03:04:31 PMBig Finbar had it right the whole time with the rugby boots and a toe-hoke as high and far as humanly possible

Casement Park 1999 stands out for me - Mickey McVeigh and Finbar tried the whole game to hit each other with a kick out - absolute boomers straight down the middle for the whole game.

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Blowitupref

Quote from: Blowitupref on June 26, 2025, 01:36:00 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on June 25, 2025, 05:39:48 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on June 25, 2025, 01:29:35 PMThe refs for the quarter finals

Monaghan v Donegal - Paddy Neilan (Roscommon)

Tyrone v Dublin - David Goldrick (Meath)

Meath v Galway- Martin McNally (Monaghan)

Armagh v Kerry - Brendan Cawley (Kildare)

Hurson and Faloon waiting for bigger days out?
Or McQuillan and Cassidy?


Retiring after this year so probably one last big game pencilled in for him?


To answer my own question,  yes.

Confirmed refs for the Semi finals

Kerry v Tyrone -  Joe McQuillan
Meath v Donegal - Paul Faloon
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tiempo

Quote from: clonian on July 03, 2025, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: tiempo on July 03, 2025, 03:04:31 PMBig Finbar had it right the whole time with the rugby boots and a toe-hoke as high and far as humanly possible

Casement Park 1999 stands out for me - Mickey McVeigh and Finbar tried the whole game to hit each other with a kick out - absolute boomers straight down the middle for the whole game.

;D  ;D  the height Finbar kickouts came in at weren't doing anyone any favours, nearly came down vertically, at club level no-one was catching them

tiempo

Quote from: greatpoint on July 03, 2025, 05:00:11 PM
Quote from: tiempo on July 03, 2025, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: AustinPowers on July 03, 2025, 12:41:43 PMThinking back now , I don't know why Rafferty didn't drive it as far as he could down the  field. He's easily capable  of hitting beyond midfield. Spread the game ,  push Kerry back. Get them away from the Armagh goal/arc

Yes, Kerry might still have won  the same amount of ball as they did , but they woukd have been further  away from  goals to do damage.  And as someone said , a  breaking ball  falling luckily could mean Conaty/McMullan etc  on his way towards the Kerry goal

Those couple of balls  going over the sideline gave Kerry  huge energy

Aiming for a target within a few yards of the sideline is beyond me too, once in a while maybe yes if someone is in space or on the run where you kick it into their path, but static targets with practically zero margin for error just seems silly, there was plenty of it over the weekend from a few teams, trying to create these sexy precision set piece plays at times when its not needed

The idea is that if the kickout misses its target the ball is more than likely going to go dead; a safer alternative to losing the kickout directly to the opposition with the ball in play.

I understand theres coaching logic behind that but its glass half empty, GAA teams are better suited to a seize the day mentality than risk containment, eventually it precipitates to overthinking fear and doubt