All Ireland Championship 2025.

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David McKeown

I'd worry about Armagh defensively particularly if MCCambridge injury was bad. That said I don't think Armagh have put two good half's back to back yet. If they do that they could be hard beaten.
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Quote from: An Watcher on June 16, 2025, 01:27:09 PMRead that myself this morning about mcguinness.  Yeah, he's trying to work an angle.

Also armagh fans seem to have gone very quiet all of a sudden.  They had a nice wee path sorted to the semi finals until meath fecked it up and now they're realising they're probably going to be playing kerry.  While I expect armagh to beat a kerry team playing 3 weeks on the trot it's funny how the best laid plans can come s cropper
Realistically if we're going to win an All Ireland which is obviously the aim, we'd most likely need to beat Kerry at some point. Surely getting them in a quarter final playing 3 weeks on the bounce and with a few injuries is our best chance at beating them. (Assuming the prelims go to script)

My thoughts exactly, prob best time to get them.  Armagh shouldn't have a big fear of any team coming out of that group tbh.  They seem to be comfortable competing against these big teams at the moment.  Shouldn't be any fear facing whoever.   

Regarding McGuniness, and to an extent Murphy, who was also feeding that 'hard done by travelling' narrative in his post game MOM interview, Donegal are situated in the top west corner of Ireland.  Unfortunately for them, being situated there will result in travelling.  Dropping in Inishowen, one of the most northerly points to exaggerate the point is petty stuff altogether. 


How about Gaoth Dobhair or Glencolmcille?

Your point being?
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Quote from: David McKeown on June 16, 2025, 07:31:00 PMI'd worry about Armagh defensively particularly if MCCambridge injury was bad. That said I don't think Armagh have put two good half's back to back yet. If they do that they could be hard beaten.

I don't think anyone has put together two good halves yet, at least against the better teams.

Armagh have definitely been the most impressive across the season though and look by far the most injury-proof as a squad.

David McKeown

Quote from: J70 on June 16, 2025, 07:50:17 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 16, 2025, 07:31:00 PMI'd worry about Armagh defensively particularly if MCCambridge injury was bad. That said I don't think Armagh have put two good half's back to back yet. If they do that they could be hard beaten.

I don't think anyone has put together two good halves yet, at least against the better teams.

Armagh have definitely been the most impressive across the season though and look by far the most injury-proof as a squad.

Seem to have a lot of injuries at the minute.
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Quote from: An Watcher on June 16, 2025, 01:27:09 PMRead that myself this morning about mcguinness.  Yeah, he's trying to work an angle.

Also armagh fans seem to have gone very quiet all of a sudden.  They had a nice wee path sorted to the semi finals until meath fecked it up and now they're realising they're probably going to be playing kerry.  While I expect armagh to beat a kerry team playing 3 weeks on the trot it's funny how the best laid plans can come s cropper
Realistically if we're going to win an All Ireland which is obviously the aim, we'd most likely need to beat Kerry at some point. Surely getting them in a quarter final playing 3 weeks on the bounce and with a few injuries is our best chance at beating them. (Assuming the prelims go to script)

My thoughts exactly, prob best time to get them.  Armagh shouldn't have a big fear of any team coming out of that group tbh.  They seem to be comfortable competing against these big teams at the moment.  Shouldn't be any fear facing whoever.   

Regarding McGuniness, and to an extent Murphy, who was also feeding that 'hard done by travelling' narrative in his post game MOM interview, Donegal are situated in the top west corner of Ireland.  Unfortunately for them, being situated there will result in travelling.  Dropping in Inishowen, one of the most northerly points to exaggerate the point is petty stuff altogether. 


How about Gaoth Dobhair or Glencolmcille?

Your point being?

That the point is not exaggerated. It's a simple fact that a majority of the county has a fairly long trip just to get to Bundoran, never mind Roscommon town.

It's also a simple fact, as you say, that there wasn't much that could be done about it in this particular instance, but if McGuinness thinks he can get some mileage out of his with respect to his team's morale and attitude, he's entitled to do that. Everyone else is equally entitled to call him a moany bollocks!



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Quote from: David McKeown on June 16, 2025, 07:56:42 PM
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Quote from: David McKeown on June 16, 2025, 07:31:00 PMI'd worry about Armagh defensively particularly if MCCambridge injury was bad. That said I don't think Armagh have put two good half's back to back yet. If they do that they could be hard beaten.

I don't think anyone has put together two good halves yet, at least against the better teams.

Armagh have definitely been the most impressive across the season though and look by far the most injury-proof as a squad.

Seem to have a lot of injuries at the minute.

Maybe, but you're better equipped than anyone else to handle them, hence my point about the squad as a whole (which in retrospect was maybe less clear in meaning than I intended).

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Quote from: Armagh18 on June 16, 2025, 02:57:39 PM
Quote from: An Watcher on June 16, 2025, 01:27:09 PMRead that myself this morning about mcguinness.  Yeah, he's trying to work an angle.

Also armagh fans seem to have gone very quiet all of a sudden.  They had a nice wee path sorted to the semi finals until meath fecked it up and now they're realising they're probably going to be playing kerry.  While I expect armagh to beat a kerry team playing 3 weeks on the trot it's funny how the best laid plans can come s cropper
Realistically if we're going to win an All Ireland which is obviously the aim, we'd most likely need to beat Kerry at some point. Surely getting them in a quarter final playing 3 weeks on the bounce and with a few injuries is our best chance at beating them. (Assuming the prelims go to script)

My thoughts exactly, prob best time to get them.  Armagh shouldn't have a big fear of any team coming out of that group tbh.  They seem to be comfortable competing against these big teams at the moment.  Shouldn't be any fear facing whoever.   

Regarding McGuniness, and to an extent Murphy, who was also feeding that 'hard done by travelling' narrative in his post game MOM interview, Donegal are situated in the top west corner of Ireland.  Unfortunately for them, being situated there will result in travelling.  Dropping in Inishowen, one of the most northerly points to exaggerate the point is petty stuff altogether. 


How about Gaoth Dobhair or Glencolmcille?

Your point being?

That the point is not exaggerated. It's a simple fact that a majority of the county has a fairly long trip just to get to Bundoran, never mind Roscommon town.

It's also a simple fact, as you say, that there wasn't much that could be done about it in this particular instance, but if McGuinness thinks he can get some mileage out of his with respect to his team's morale and attitude, he's entitled to do that. Everyone else is equally entitled to call him a moany bollocks!




Donegal is a long  county, top to bottom, and any  match is a bit of a trek,  for  north Donegal folk in particular. . But  if you go   by Mc Guinness's halfish-way geographical logic,  most neutral games Donegal  play would need  to  be in Ballyshannon .

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It's the worse draw possible for Down but also the worst for Galway, Down at the Marshes will be no walkover for Galway.

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Quote from: Main Street on June 16, 2025, 09:50:14 PMIt's the worse draw possible for Down but also the worst for Galway, Down at the Marshes will be no walkover for Galway.
Worst for Galway? As opposed to Kerry or Donegal away? I think Down will give them their fill of it but I'm sure they'd have taken Down out of the options available.

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Quote from: David McKeown on June 16, 2025, 07:31:00 PMI'd worry about Armagh defensively particularly if MCCambridge injury was bad. That said I don't think Armagh have put two good half's back to back yet. If they do that they could be hard beaten.

Armagh are easily the best defence left in the championship. I can't think of one better than them.
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Quote from: J70 on June 16, 2025, 07:50:17 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 16, 2025, 07:31:00 PMI'd worry about Armagh defensively particularly if MCCambridge injury was bad. That said I don't think Armagh have put two good half's back to back yet. If they do that they could be hard beaten.

I don't think anyone has put together two good halves yet, at least against the better teams.

Armagh have definitely been the most impressive across the season though and look by far the most injury-proof as a squad.

I think Meath put two very good halves against Kerry on sat
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Quote from: An Watcher on June 16, 2025, 01:27:09 PMRead that myself this morning about mcguinness.  Yeah, he's trying to work an angle.

Also armagh fans seem to have gone very quiet all of a sudden.  They had a nice wee path sorted to the semi finals until meath fecked it up and now they're realising they're probably going to be playing kerry.  While I expect armagh to beat a kerry team playing 3 weeks on the trot it's funny how the best laid plans can come s cropper
Realistically if we're going to win an All Ireland which is obviously the aim, we'd most likely need to beat Kerry at some point. Surely getting them in a quarter final playing 3 weeks on the bounce and with a few injuries is our best chance at beating them. (Assuming the prelims go to script)

My thoughts exactly, prob best time to get them.  Armagh shouldn't have a big fear of any team coming out of that group tbh.  They seem to be comfortable competing against these big teams at the moment.  Shouldn't be any fear facing whoever.   

Regarding McGuniness, and to an extent Murphy, who was also feeding that 'hard done by travelling' narrative in his post game MOM interview, Donegal are situated in the top west corner of Ireland.  Unfortunately for them, being situated there will result in travelling.  Dropping in Inishowen, one of the most northerly points to exaggerate the point is petty stuff altogether. 


How about Gaoth Dobhair or Glencolmcille?

Your point being?

That the point is not exaggerated. It's a simple fact that a majority of the county has a fairly long trip just to get to Bundoran, never mind Roscommon town.

It's also a simple fact, as you say, that there wasn't much that could be done about it in this particular instance, but if McGuinness thinks he can get some mileage out of his with respect to his team's morale and attitude, he's entitled to do that. Everyone else is equally entitled to call him a moany bollocks!




Donegal is a long  county, top to bottom, and any  match is a bit of a trek,  for  north Donegal folk in particular. . But  if you go  by Mc Guinness's halfish-way geographical logic,  most neutral games Donegal  play would need  to  be in Ballyshannon .

The only logical way to sort it is to use the respective county grounds as the distance points. Otherwise you can argue about your Inishowens and Blacksods and Clonakilties all day long. Galway with the Aran Islands in fact is probably never going to lose in that argument. Some counties will always be longer and wider than others

In respect of that, Donegal still got the short straw. I can understand why he was annoyed, even outside of him using it as a rallying call. Mayo know the place inside out. I also thought there was a very good explanation back from the GAA after the draw today explaining why all other halfway house venues were out of use

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Quote from: An Watcher on June 16, 2025, 01:27:09 PMRead that myself this morning about mcguinness.  Yeah, he's trying to work an angle.

Also armagh fans seem to have gone very quiet all of a sudden.  They had a nice wee path sorted to the semi finals until meath fecked it up and now they're realising they're probably going to be playing kerry.  While I expect armagh to beat a kerry team playing 3 weeks on the trot it's funny how the best laid plans can come s cropper
Realistically if we're going to win an All Ireland which is obviously the aim, we'd most likely need to beat Kerry at some point. Surely getting them in a quarter final playing 3 weeks on the bounce and with a few injuries is our best chance at beating them. (Assuming the prelims go to script)

My thoughts exactly, prob best time to get them.  Armagh shouldn't have a big fear of any team coming out of that group tbh.  They seem to be comfortable competing against these big teams at the moment.  Shouldn't be any fear facing whoever.   

Regarding McGuniness, and to an extent Murphy, who was also feeding that 'hard done by travelling' narrative in his post game MOM interview, Donegal are situated in the top west corner of Ireland.  Unfortunately for them, being situated there will result in travelling.  Dropping in Inishowen, one of the most northerly points to exaggerate the point is petty stuff altogether. 


How about Gaoth Dobhair or Glencolmcille?

Your point being?

That the point is not exaggerated. It's a simple fact that a majority of the county has a fairly long trip just to get to Bundoran, never mind Roscommon town.

It's also a simple fact, as you say, that there wasn't much that could be done about it in this particular instance, but if McGuinness thinks he can get some mileage out of his with respect to his team's morale and attitude, he's entitled to do that. Everyone else is equally entitled to call him a moany bollocks!




Donegal is a long  county, top to bottom, and any  match is a bit of a trek,  for  north Donegal folk in particular. . But  if you go  by Mc Guinness's halfish-way geographical logic,  most neutral games Donegal  play would need  to  be in Ballyshannon .

The only logical way to sort it is to use the respective county grounds as the distance points. Otherwise you can argue about your Inishowens and Blacksods and Clonakilties all day long. Galway with the Aran Islands in fact is probably never going to lose in that argument. Some counties will always be longer and wider than others

In respect of that, Donegal still got the short straw. I can understand why he was annoyed, even outside of him using it as a rallying call. Mayo know the place inside out. I also thought there was a very good explanation back from the GAA after the draw today explaining why all other halfway house venues were out of use

The matches have to be played somewhere. It would have been in Sligo if the pitch wasn't out of action. So one of the 2 teams were gonna be screwed, it just happened to be Donegal. f**k me get over it.
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It could have Leitrim but it wouldn't have the capacity of Hyde. Other venues like Breffni or Enniskillen weren't available.

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Quote from: An Watcher on June 16, 2025, 01:27:09 PMRead that myself this morning about mcguinness.  Yeah, he's trying to work an angle.

Also armagh fans seem to have gone very quiet all of a sudden.  They had a nice wee path sorted to the semi finals until meath fecked it up and now they're realising they're probably going to be playing kerry.  While I expect armagh to beat a kerry team playing 3 weeks on the trot it's funny how the best laid plans can come s cropper
Realistically if we're going to win an All Ireland which is obviously the aim, we'd most likely need to beat Kerry at some point. Surely getting them in a quarter final playing 3 weeks on the bounce and with a few injuries is our best chance at beating them. (Assuming the prelims go to script)

My thoughts exactly, prob best time to get them.  Armagh shouldn't have a big fear of any team coming out of that group tbh.  They seem to be comfortable competing against these big teams at the moment.  Shouldn't be any fear facing whoever.   

Regarding McGuniness, and to an extent Murphy, who was also feeding that 'hard done by travelling' narrative in his post game MOM interview, Donegal are situated in the top west corner of Ireland.  Unfortunately for them, being situated there will result in travelling.  Dropping in Inishowen, one of the most northerly points to exaggerate the point is petty stuff altogether. 


How about Gaoth Dobhair or Glencolmcille?

Your point being?

That the point is not exaggerated. It's a simple fact that a majority of the county has a fairly long trip just to get to Bundoran, never mind Roscommon town.

It's also a simple fact, as you say, that there wasn't much that could be done about it in this particular instance, but if McGuinness thinks he can get some mileage out of his with respect to his team's morale and attitude, he's entitled to do that. Everyone else is equally entitled to call him a moany bollocks!




Donegal is a long  county, top to bottom, and any  match is a bit of a trek,  for  north Donegal folk in particular. . But  if you go  by Mc Guinness's halfish-way geographical logic,  most neutral games Donegal  play would need  to  be in Ballyshannon .

The only logical way to sort it is to use the respective county grounds as the distance points. Otherwise you can argue about your Inishowens and Blacksods and Clonakilties all day long. Galway with the Aran Islands in fact is probably never going to lose in that argument. Some counties will always be longer and wider than others

In respect of that, Donegal still got the short straw. I can understand why he was annoyed, even outside of him using it as a rallying call. Mayo know the place inside out. I also thought there was a very good explanation back from the GAA after the draw today explaining why all other halfway house venues were out of use

Did Kerry not get a  shorter straw?