All Ireland Championship 2025.

[JoG2]

What a championship this year is turning into

Even though we're out, you're absolutely right. Compare what is happening now to the 7 in a row years... Exceptional stuff 👌

[JoG2]

Tally is a coach not a manager which is very evident

Explain...

[thewobbler]

Tally is a coach not a manager which is very evident

I don't know about this.

Part of being a great manager is being in the right place at the right time.

Gallagher took Derry from underachieving to marginally overachieving. But I don't believe he'd have won an AI there with this generation of footballers. They don't have the firepower to see off 3 big teams in a row, regardless of coaching.

And I think the players know this too. Getting an Ulster and and NFL were within grasp. The next step is too high for now.

If Derry were to give Tally the same time that Armagh have allowed McGeeney - the time to build a squad, a system, an ethos - all while waiting for 3-4 scoring forwards to integrate. I think he'd deliver it.

But who has that patience? Probably not even Tally to be fair.

[Wildweasel74]

Hes nowhere near it, Down men could tell u that.

[Easttyrone23]

Hes nowhere near it, Down men could tell u that.

Think it's more likely that down just where nowhere near it. Tally won Irelands with both Tyrone and Kerry. Although I do agree with many views that he is more of a coach than a manager.

[thejuice]

Not to take too much away from our lads performance but Kerry gave us way too much space and time on the ball. Maybe they didn't respect us or perhaps Kerry have no depth to their squad.

The fact is we were the ones who went out and performed, we have depth to our squad now too and lads who can stand up when others are out.

[ElJeffe]

Tally is a coach not a manager which is very evident

Explain...

He's been a coach his entire life. Tyrone, Galway, Kerry ... never been the manager which is a different skill set. Everyone watching the match could see there was zero KO plan

[JoG2]

Hes nowhere near it, Down men could tell u that.

Hurler on the ditch 2025 goes too...a melter

[JoG2]

Tally is a coach not a manager which is very evident

Explain...

He's been a coach his entire life. Tyrone, Galway, Kerry ... never been the manager which is a different skill set. Everyone watching the match could see there was zero KO plan

He did have a kickout plan for yesterday, Lynch breaking down at the end of training on Thursday out pay to that, we didn't have a kickout plan b, well we did, just couldn't execute it unfortunately

[gallsman]

Keeper a problem position for Derry for a few years now. Not pinpointing McKinless at all but if they've a better option than him or Lynch, they very probably get out of that group

[marty34]

I think for a lot of teams, pre this year, kick outs were handy.

Now you have to win your own ball - Brian Cody's great philosophy was he wanted players to be good at winning their own ball. Give them the ball high or low but they had to win it regardless.

Kick outs in football now is like this. Kick it out and win it. Most teams before got the majority of kick outs away and keep possession. Changed days now.

A keeper can't be blamed all the time. If no runs are being made, a keeper's only option is to put it out high and long. Then win your own ball basically.

[Mario]

Keeper a problem position for Derry for a few years now. Not pinpointing McKinless at all but if they've a better option than him or Lynch, they very probably get out of that group

Lynch is a top keeper. Much derided last year because of tactics that left him exposed when other players lost the ball. He's a brilliant shot stopper, good under the high ball and good off the tee. It's just unfortunate he's been injured for the whole season nearly.

[guevara]

Dublin vs Derry was a very good game of football but being at it I felt Dublin made hard work of the win.

With the pace & power Dublin had and the introduction of the new rules I was surprised they never let the ball into Con O'Callaghan more when he was one on one.

The main problem with Derry's kickout was Glass had a very poor game and Derry got cleaned out of it around the middle.

Ciaran Kilkenny was superb and his strength on the ball was impressive as well as his ability to keep dictating play.

Brendan Cawley had a really really poor game. Ciaran McFaul should have had the most obvious black card you will see and a few times he moved the ball up for very little. Saying that he was poor for both teams.

Derry just ran out of legs and are so predictable in how they play, wsiting on McGuigan to become free to take on a shot. Outside of Ethan Doherty they had no other forward threat.

Great to see The Dubs get brought out of Croke Park and forced to adapt to venues like other teams.

[Wildweasel74]

Glass played ok i thought, he giving away 4inches on u man and wasn't getting a run at the kickouts. It's Derry one Dimensional kickouts cost us, so easy to read, we got beat repeatedly on break ball. Higgins should swapped with him early on as he's a physically bigger man.

[Wildweasel74]

Marty you not see the total variation on Dublin kickouts, There's alot more to kicking it long and win u own ball, and it's been biting Derry in the balls all year, from Celtic park to Ballyshannon in games. In saying that after Lynch, the current keeper probably be 5/6th of the current keepers in Derry.