Casement Park in line for major overhaul - 40,000 all seater Stadium.

[trileacman]

Why are most of you singling out Casement Pk for funding?. Funding is allocated to projects from Governments both Brits, Irish and Lottery etc all the time and has done for years. The grants can be questioned for all projects and asked is it value for money and is it needed. Did we need Ravenhill, Windsor Park, Dundonald Ice Bow. Did all the schools need upgraded or rebuilt, do Translink need £100m every year for subsidiary, do we need all this?. The truth is we can build cheaper and stop free travel for pensioners and pay for prescriptions, the point is funding is provided all the time and in most cases will not be value for money.
Did Ulster Council and GAA f**K it up?. Absolutely they did, no one is denying this but FFS just get on with it and build the poxy thing, you can go on-line and yap about something else to fill your joyful day or get a life.

Whether we like it or not we are taxpaying members of the British state, so every time they piss millions up the wall its coming out of our pockets. Spending hundreds of millions on a stadium that will be lucky to be filled 15 times in the next 20 years is bordering on the immoral. The IFA and Ulster rugby lads at least had the brains to cut their cloth accordingly. I don't see why we should be giving the GAA free reign to build a white elephant that will weigh around the neck of those funding it like a millstone.

If the GAA had sense and built a good sound 20,000 seater stadium for Antrim back in 2011 then we'd have none of this perpetual shitshow since. What's unforgiveable is that after nearly 20 years of getting kicked back they still haven't taken the hint that they should just build a smaller, more sensible stadium that's acceptable to the residents and acceptable for their sponsors (the british gov, GAA) to finance.

Of all the things you've listed none come anywhere near the level of waste that Casement will be. Ravenhill was redeveloped into an 18,000 seater for ~15 million, Windsor was 30 million. Ulster GAA are looking 250 million to do Casement. Comparing Casement funding to Translink or schools funding is just a strawman argument. Schools are used 5 days a week, 40 weeks a year, a vital part of our society and always have been. Translink move thousands of people daily, to work, for travel, to hospital appts. Just because there is sometimes waste or inefficiency their tendering in no way justifies spunking 100 million on a Ulster GAA vanity project.

Do the sensible thing Ulster GAA, take 100 mill, build the stadium you can afford.

[Wildweasel74]

I bad news for you, there about a 100 schools that need rebuilt!

[naka]

Why are most of you singling out Casement Pk for funding?. Funding is allocated to projects from Governments both Brits, Irish and Lottery etc all the time and has done for years. The grants can be questioned for all projects and asked is it value for money and is it needed. Did we need Ravenhill, Windsor Park, Dundonald Ice Bow. Did all the schools need upgraded or rebuilt, do Translink need £100m every year for subsidiary, do we need all this?. The truth is we can build cheaper and stop free travel for pensioners and pay for prescriptions, the point is funding is provided all the time and in most cases will not be value for money.
Did Ulster Council and GAA f**K it up?. Absolutely they did, no one is denying this but FFS just get on with it and build the poxy thing, you can go on-line and yap about something else to fill your joyful day or get a life.

Whether we like it or not we are taxpaying members of the British state, so every time they piss millions up the wall its coming out of our pockets. Spending hundreds of millions on a stadium that will be lucky to be filled 15 times in the next 20 years is bordering on the immoral. The IFA and Ulster rugby lads at least had the brains to cut their cloth accordingly. I don't see why we should be giving the GAA free reign to build a white elephant that will weigh around the neck of those funding it like a millstone.

If the GAA had sense and built a good sound 20,000 seater stadium for Antrim back in 2011 then we'd have none of this perpetual shitshow since. What's unforgiveable is that after nearly 20 years of getting kicked back they still haven't taken the hint that they should just build a smaller, more sensible stadium that's acceptable to the residents and acceptable for their sponsors (the british gov, GAA) to finance.

Of all the things you've listed none come anywhere near the level of waste that Casement will be. Ravenhill was redeveloped into an 18,000 seater for ~15 million, Windsor was 30 million. Ulster GAA are looking 250 million to do Casement. Comparing Casement funding to Translink or schools funding is just a strawman argument. Schools are used 5 days a week, 40 weeks a year, a vital part of our society and always have been. Translink move thousands of people daily, to work, for travel, to hospital appts. Just because there is sometimes waste or inefficiency their tendering in no way justifies spunking 100 million on a Ulster GAA vanity project.

Do the sensible thing Ulster GAA, take 100 mill, build the stadium you can afford.

Agreed on this
Build a stadium like pairc Esler or the athletic grounds .
More than sufficient for the needs of Antrim gaa.

[imtommygunn]

Do the sensible thing Ulster GAA, take 100 mill, build the stadium you can afford.

Exactly this. At this rate it will barely be done in a lot of our lifetimes. Antrim(unfortunately) would never fill a 30k stadium. The athletics grounds and pairc esler are perfect examples.

Yes a grand new casement could be something to be proud of but it's scale is not needed.

[93-DY-SAM]

Do the sensible thing Ulster GAA, take 100 mill, build the stadium you can afford.

Exactly this. At this rate it will barely be done in a lot of our lifetimes. Antrim(unfortunately) would never fill a 30k stadium. The athletics grounds and pairc esler are perfect examples.

Yes a grand new casement could be something to be proud of but it's scale is not needed.

Have said this countless times. Build what you can now with the money, but build it a bit at a time so it can be extended in future if required. It took 10+ years to fully develop Croke Park. It doesn't need to be a completely brand new shiny stadium from day dot. If they had done that 15 years ago, they'd have the stadium they wanted now.

[Armagh18]

Do the sensible thing Ulster GAA, take 100 mill, build the stadium you can afford.

Exactly this. At this rate it will barely be done in a lot of our lifetimes. Antrim(unfortunately) would never fill a 30k stadium. The athletics grounds and pairc esler are perfect examples.

Yes a grand new casement could be something to be proud of but it's scale is not needed.

Have said this countless times. Build what you can now with the money, but build it a bit at a time so it can be extended in future if required. It took 10+ years to fully develop Croke Park. It doesn't need to be a completely brand new shiny stadium from day dot. If they had done that 15 years ago, they'd have the stadium they wanted now.

100%

[GTP]

Until someone says how much money is available from all sources GAA, Irish Government, Stormont and UK the GAA won't know what it can or cannot build.
3 uncovered stands and one side of covered seating seems to be a wasted opportunity and would show a lack of ambition. Doesn't have to be an all seater mega stadium but lets hope Ulster and Antrim end up with something we actually want to attend, not another set of concrete steps to stand out in the rain on.

[tiempo]

You don't want an Ikea flat pack stadium either, need something with a bit of soul

[imtommygunn]

Do the sensible thing Ulster GAA, take 100 mill, build the stadium you can afford.

Exactly this. At this rate it will barely be done in a lot of our lifetimes. Antrim(unfortunately) would never fill a 30k stadium. The athletics grounds and pairc esler are perfect examples.

Yes a grand new casement could be something to be proud of but it's scale is not needed.

Have said this countless times. Build what you can now with the money, but build it a bit at a time so it can be extended in future if required. It took 10+ years to fully develop Croke Park. It doesn't need to be a completely brand new shiny stadium from day dot. If they had done that 15 years ago, they'd have the stadium they wanted now.

It's become so political now I don't know if that would happen but yes it would be the sensible approach.

[naka]

Until someone says how much money is available from all sources GAA, Irish Government, Stormont and UK the GAA won't know what it can or cannot build.
3 uncovered stands and one side of covered seating seems to be a wasted opportunity and would show a lack of ambition. Doesn't have to be an all seater mega stadium but lets hope Ulster and Antrim end up with something we actually want to attend, not another set of concrete steps to stand out in the rain on.

tbf the smaller stadiums in ulster are perfect for atmosphere,
soulless is antrim footballers playing in a 30k stadium with say 3k at the match
as i said Athletic grounds type stadium would be perfect if the stadium is solely about football and hurling

[giveherlong]

Funding announcement due tomorrow (Weds)
When does planning permission expire?

[Rossfan]

Until someone says how much money is available from all sources GAA, Irish Government, Stormont and UK the GAA won't know what it can or cannot build.
3 uncovered stands and one side of covered seating seems to be a wasted opportunity and would show a lack of ambition. Doesn't have to be an all seater mega stadium but lets hope Ulster and Antrim end up with something we actually want to attend, not another set of concrete steps to stand out in the rain on.

It's already known the Stormont has £62m, GAA £15m, 26 Co taxpayers €50m.
Only unknown is will the Brits give anything and how much.
Ambition is a great yoke but the real world needs you to pay for it.

[snoopdog]

Until someone says how much money is available from all sources GAA, Irish Government, Stormont and UK the GAA won't know what it can or cannot build.
3 uncovered stands and one side of covered seating seems to be a wasted opportunity and would show a lack of ambition. Doesn't have to be an all seater mega stadium but lets hope Ulster and Antrim end up with something we actually want to attend, not another set of concrete steps to stand out in the rain on.

It's already known the Stormont has £62m, GAA £15m, 26 Co taxpayers €50m.
Only unknown is will the Brits give anything and how much.
Ambition is a great yoke but the real world needs you to pay for it.

Already more than enough money to get it done . The GAA don't need a 40k all seater. 2 stands and 2 open terraces can surely be more than delivered with figures above.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Until someone says how much money is available from all sources GAA, Irish Government, Stormont and UK the GAA won't know what it can or cannot build.
3 uncovered stands and one side of covered seating seems to be a wasted opportunity and would show a lack of ambition. Doesn't have to be an all seater mega stadium but lets hope Ulster and Antrim end up with something we actually want to attend, not another set of concrete steps to stand out in the rain on.

It's already known the Stormont has £62m, GAA £15m, 26 Co taxpayers €50m.
Only unknown is will the Brits give anything and how much.
Ambition is a great yoke but the real world needs you to pay for it.

That €50m from Dublin was for the Euro's build. It's off the table now. It's now soccers turn for stadium upgrades and academies.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

Until someone says how much money is available from all sources GAA, Irish Government, Stormont and UK the GAA won't know what it can or cannot build.
3 uncovered stands and one side of covered seating seems to be a wasted opportunity and would show a lack of ambition. Doesn't have to be an all seater mega stadium but lets hope Ulster and Antrim end up with something we actually want to attend, not another set of concrete steps to stand out in the rain on.

It's already known the Stormont has £62m, GAA £15m, 26 Co taxpayers €50m.
Only unknown is will the Brits give anything and how much.
Ambition is a great yoke but the real world needs you to pay for it.

That €50m from Dublin was for the Euro's build. It's off the table now. It's now soccers turn for stadium upgrades and academies.

Incorrect.