Armagh v Derry. Group 4

[Solo_run]

5 points in it

[Solo_run]

Derry have had three other goal chances

[twohands!!!]

Armagh's 13 point lead in the 59 minute has narrowed to a 4 point lead with 4 minutes left.

[jb77]

Paddy tally will take another morale victory from this no matter what

[Blowitupref]

FT Armagh 2-21 Derry 2-17.  6 goal chances for Derry in that 2nd half.

[screenexile]

Jesus what happened to Armagh that second half??

[twohands!!!]

Paddy tally will take another morale victory from this no matter what

The thing is that if you do lose your first group game, it's vital not to lose by a wide margin as it really makes thing much more difficult to get out of the group, especially if the other team in the group only loses by a few points.

[Captain Obvious]

A win is a win for Armagh with two points on the table however if that performance especially defensively is repeated against Dublin,Galway it will be two certain defeats for Armagh.

[SouthOfThe Bann]

A win is a win for Armagh with two points on the table however if that performance especially defensively is repeated against Dublin,Galway it will be two certain defeats for Armagh.

Have Derry any hope v Galway?

[bennydorano]

Got a bit squeaky bum there but deserved winners, the score really flatters Derry imo, when it got a bit harem scarem anything could have happened but overall I thought Derry were pretty poor. Glass superb in 1st, Ethan Doherty in 2nd the only 2 I would have noticed tbh.

Armagh very leggy looking, good to get that first one on the board. I'd say very little discussion on MOTM  - has to be Darragh McMullan, best game in an Armagh jersey to date. Great to see Rian back at it, didn't think he'd be fit for that much. Oisin o'Neill out after 15 mins with an injury tho a huge blow.

[statto]

Very concerning second half from Armagh when the game was over looked in trouble when Derry ran at them.

Derry really struggled throughout game competing on breaks around middle and Armagh were much better side outside the last 5 mins of first half and last ten minutes.

Thought Glass fought a gallant battle on own at times in game Higgins improved things in second half. Glass took on a two pointer late on when Derry had momentum and was the wrong choice had 4/5 men to his left, this was just after mcguigan had missed a chance for a two pointer which expected him get.

Positives for Armagh was Rian getting 55 mins and some minutes for Grimley and McElroy.  2-21 is good scoring.

[Wildweasel74]

All Derry problems start with a goalkeeping issue, his kickouts are so easy to read. Tally zonal marking
Allowing Armagh the easy kickout all first half. Derry just do not get a scoring return from their forwards.

[Mario]

Very concerning second half from Armagh when the game was over looked in trouble when Derry ran at them.

Derry really struggled throughout game competing on breaks around middle and Armagh were much better side outside the last 5 mins of first half and last ten minutes.

Thought Glass fought a gallant battle on own at times in game Higgins improved things in second half. Glass took on a two pointer late on when Derry had momentum and was the wrong choice had 4/5 men to his left, this was just after mcguigan had missed a chance for a two pointer which expected him get.

Positives for Armagh was Rian getting 55 mins and some minutes for Grimley and McElroy.  2-21 is good scoring.

I thought the first half was close to 50 50, McGuigan gave a soft ball after after the 3 man infringement free touching it on the ground and Armagh got a 2 pointer. Tohill missed a sitter on the buzzer that was the difference in the first half. Third quarter Armagh blew us away. 4th quarter we were excellent but gave ourselves too much to do. We missed enough to get something from that game. Armaghs first goal was very lucky too.

The difference is in the goalkeepers, 80% of Armaghs kickouts are uncontested. Ours are 50/50 battles. If Rafferty is in nets for Derry we win that game. Need lynch back for Galway.

Glad to see a bit of fight and something to take into the next game. I don't think we are far away if a few things go our way.

[David McKeown]

As poor as Derry were they could and probably should have won that game and may be kicking themselves.

Armagh were for long periods abject, indecisive and most worryingly badly organised.

That said Armagh were very good for 20 minutes in the second half so hopefully they can build on that as big improvements needed for the rest of the year.

[statto]

Very concerning second half from Armagh when the game was over looked in trouble when Derry ran at them.

Derry really struggled throughout game competing on breaks around middle and Armagh were much better side outside the last 5 mins of first half and last ten minutes.

Thought Glass fought a gallant battle on own at times in game Higgins improved things in second half. Glass took on a two pointer late on when Derry had momentum and was the wrong choice had 4/5 men to his left, this was just after mcguigan had missed a chance for a two pointer which expected him get.

Positives for Armagh was Rian getting 55 mins and some minutes for Grimley and McElroy.  2-21 is good scoring.

I thought the first half was close to 50 50, McGuigan gave a soft ball after after the 3 man infringement free touching it on the ground and Armagh got a 2 pointer. Tohill missed a sitter on the buzzer that was the difference in the first half. Third quarter Armagh blew us away. 4th quarter we were excellent but gave ourselves too much to do. We missed enough to get something from that game. Armaghs first goal was very lucky too.

The difference is in the goalkeepers, 80% of Armaghs kickouts are uncontested. Ours are 50/50 battles. If Rafferty is in nets for Derry we win that game. Need lynch back for Galway.

Glad to see a bit of fight and something to take into the next game. I don't think we are far away if a few things go our way.

McKinless didn't seem to want to look at any shorts first kickout went long a Derry supporter behind me started giving him abuse.

Found the Derry kickout strategy strange kicked alot right on top of the touchline which even if win ball makes it difficult to get out of the area or if kick it too long it goes out of play.

Would disagree think Armagh were much better side for 25 mins of first half then Derry got last three scores to keep them in game.  While Derry did well last quarter have to ask if this was because Derry were excellent or did Armagh go to sleep, probably a bit of both.