Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[Truthsayer]

Listening to the radio..
Radio Ulster... "105 people have been killed in air strikes in north Gaza according to the Hamas-run health ministry".
Q Radio: "Medics in Gaza have said 105 people... "
BBC & RTÉ reports have been disgrace throughout this genocide...

[general_lee]

Listening to the radio..
Radio Ulster... "105 people have been killed in air strikes in north Gaza according to the Hamas-run health ministry".
Q Radio: "Medics in Gaza have said 105 people... "
BBC & RTÉ reports have been disgrace throughout this genocide...

The British state broadcaster will never be impartial, especially given the British government's shameless complicity in the Genocide in Gaza.

[From the Bunker]

Anyone who was around in the '70's and '80's will know all about how the British media and how they framed the Narrative for Northern Ireland. That said the Irish Media down south were not much better.

[Truthsayer]

Anyone who was around in the '70's and '80's will know all about how the British media and how they framed the Narrative for Northern Ireland. That said the Irish Media down south were not much better.

True. RTÉ are despicable

[JoG2]

Listening to the radio..
Radio Ulster... "105 people have been killed in air strikes in north Gaza according to the Hamas-run health ministry".
Q Radio: "Medics in Gaza have said 105 people... "
BBC & RTÉ reports have been disgrace throughout this genocide...

Rte radio 1 the same this evening during the news... Shameful

[Milltown Row2]

What other sources can they use though! I'm not sure any other way of saying that?

In conflicts (I'm not talking about this one) the sources on death tolls will be carried out by those who have lost lives?

[Wildweasel74]

Hard to get confirmed death tolls when Israel deliberately wouldn't let anybody in for the scenes of devastation would be on tv.

[Baile Brigín 2]

What other sources can they use though! I'm not sure any other way of saying that?

In conflicts (I'm not talking about this one) the sources on death tolls will be carried out by those who have lost lives?

I read the Economist 'justification' for using Hamas Ministry figures. Basically they have previously been accurate and there are no other organisationson the ground. If anything they are understated as Hamas is trying to minimise the death toll of their fighters.

[Milltown Row2]

Hard to get confirmed death tolls when Israel deliberately wouldn't let anybody in for the scenes of devastation would be on tv.

I'm not arguing on those things, I'm just saying that's how it should be informed, as in both sides of any conflict would present figures and outside media will state that they got this information from such and such a source..

The figures are never accurate and in most circumstances (in any conflict) well under reported

The bbc and other networks have been guilty of some horrendous one sided reporting but not sure how they go with this differently

[Truthsayer]

What other sources can they use though! I'm not sure any other way of saying that?

In conflicts (I'm not talking about this one) the sources on death tolls will be carried out by those who have lost lives?

Q Radio: "Medics in Gaza have said..."
BBC and RTÉ know exactly what they're doing putting Hamas name in the same sentence with Israeli atrocities..

[Snapchap]

Hard to get confirmed death tolls when Israel deliberately wouldn't let anybody in for the scenes of devastation would be on tv.

I'm not arguing on those things, I'm just saying that's how it should be informed, as in both sides of any conflict would present figures and outside media will state that they got this information from such and such a source..

The figures are never accurate and in most circumstances (in any conflict) well under reported

The bbc and other networks have been guilty of some horrendous one sided reporting but not sure how they go with this differently

Are you for real?? You think the decision to force all reporters to preface the title of the Health Ministry with the preface "Hamas run" isn't propagandistic?

[JoG2]

Hard to get confirmed death tolls when Israel deliberately wouldn't let anybody in for the scenes of devastation would be on tv.

I'm not arguing on those things, I'm just saying that's how it should be informed, as in both sides of any conflict would present figures and outside media will state that they got this information from such and such a source..

The figures are never accurate and in most circumstances (in any conflict) well under reported

The bbc and other networks have been guilty of some horrendous one sided reporting but not sure how they go with this differently

Are you for real?? You think the decision to force all reporters to preface the title of the Health Ministry with the preface "Hamas run" isn't propagandistic?

Crazy that this has to be pointed out at this stage, Hareetz ran with 'medical agency' for example.

[Milltown Row2]

Hard to get confirmed death tolls when Israel deliberately wouldn't let anybody in for the scenes of devastation would be on tv.

I'm not arguing on those things, I'm just saying that's how it should be informed, as in both sides of any conflict would present figures and outside media will state that they got this information from such and such a source..

The figures are never accurate and in most circumstances (in any conflict) well under reported

The bbc and other networks have been guilty of some horrendous one sided reporting but not sure how they go with this differently

Are you for real?? You think the decision to force all reporters to preface the title of the Health Ministry with the preface "Hamas run" isn't propagandistic?

I'm simply asking how is it best to run with the numbers of murders carried out by the IDF?  All I've asked is there another way of conducting that? The example by Q radio seemed a better option..

I'm at no point saying the Hamas figures are wrong, they, as I said are probably lower than the actual figures..

Just feel in the grand scheme of things happening in the region to be getting riled about, the BBC and others have (even just there now on the radio on the way into work) used language or interviewees that are allowed to be half challenged when speaking.. 

[johnnycool]

Hard to get confirmed death tolls when Israel deliberately wouldn't let anybody in for the scenes of devastation would be on tv.

I'm not arguing on those things, I'm just saying that's how it should be informed, as in both sides of any conflict would present figures and outside media will state that they got this information from such and such a source..

The figures are never accurate and in most circumstances (in any conflict) well under reported

The bbc and other networks have been guilty of some horrendous one sided reporting but not sure how they go with this differently

Are you for real?? You think the decision to force all reporters to preface the title of the Health Ministry with the preface "Hamas run" isn't propagandistic?

I'm simply asking how is it best to run with the numbers of murders carried out by the IDF?  All I've asked is there another way of conducting that? The example by Q radio seemed a better option..

I'm at no point saying the Hamas figures are wrong, they, as I said are probably lower than the actual figures..

Just feel in the grand scheme of things happening in the region to be getting riled about, the BBC and others have (even just there now on the radio on the way into work) used language or interviewees that are allowed to be half challenged when speaking.. 

That's the problem, when the BBC are interviewing one of the many pro Israelis they've on they never once premise their comments with the fact that the ICJ has arrest warrants out for Netanyahu and Gallant, yet they always comment that it's the Hamas run health ministry figures or "Israel disputes the use of the term genocide".

Ever wonder about that?

It's all about context, but we in the North should know better than most that the BBC is a propogandist organisation through and through.

[Milltown Row2]

Hard to get confirmed death tolls when Israel deliberately wouldn't let anybody in for the scenes of devastation would be on tv.

I'm not arguing on those things, I'm just saying that's how it should be informed, as in both sides of any conflict would present figures and outside media will state that they got this information from such and such a source..

The figures are never accurate and in most circumstances (in any conflict) well under reported

The bbc and other networks have been guilty of some horrendous one sided reporting but not sure how they go with this differently

Are you for real?? You think the decision to force all reporters to preface the title of the Health Ministry with the preface "Hamas run" isn't propagandistic?

I'm simply asking how is it best to run with the numbers of murders carried out by the IDF?  All I've asked is there another way of conducting that? The example by Q radio seemed a better option..

I'm at no point saying the Hamas figures are wrong, they, as I said are probably lower than the actual figures..

Just feel in the grand scheme of things happening in the region to be getting riled about, the BBC and others have (even just there now on the radio on the way into work) used language or interviewees that are allowed to be half challenged when speaking.. 

That's the problem, when the BBC are interviewing one of the many pro Israelis they've on they never once premise their comments with the fact that the ICJ has arrest warrants out for Netanyahu and Gallant, yet they always comment that it's the Hamas run health ministry figures or "Israel disputes the use of the term genocide".

Ever wonder about that?

It's all about context, but we in the North should know better than most that the BBC is a propogandist organisation through and through.

Hopefully Lineker will lift the lid on his silencing from the BBC and give everyone a better idea on the language that they have to use with regards to Gaza and Israel