Ulster U20 and Minor Championships 2025

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imtommygunn

Yeah I thought that too. The ginger haired fella from Donegal was going mad.


Mikhailov

Quote from: greatpoint on April 30, 2025, 09:50:43 PMIt looked like he didn't make the same call against Tyrone a few minutes earlier when they didn't have the players back

Exactly this. The ref looked back, was then facing it but refused to blow

Norf Tyrone

The ref will not call this in Championship football.
It'll be the linesman or 4th official.
Owen Roe O'Neills GAC, Leckpatrick, Tyrone

Mikhailov

Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 30, 2025, 10:19:44 PMThe ref will not call this in Championship football.
It'll be the linesman or 4th official.

The ref turned around and looked straight at it - surely it is up to him then to call it.

Norf Tyrone

Quote from: Mikhailov on April 30, 2025, 10:24:51 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 30, 2025, 10:19:44 PMThe ref will not call this in Championship football.
It'll be the linesman or 4th official.

The ref turned around and looked straight at it - surely it is up to him then to call it.

I think he turned around as 4 or 5 Donegal men were roaring. Why I don't know.
Owen Roe O'Neills GAC, Leckpatrick, Tyrone

the goal was on

Watching from terrace tyrone def only 2 back. Thought ref was gonna call it back after play had stopped. Would have been 2 point opportunity and there was a helping breeze. If this happens in bigger game with more cameras then it will be a real shame.

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Quote from: Mikhailov on April 30, 2025, 10:24:51 PM
Quote from: Norf Tyrone on April 30, 2025, 10:19:44 PMThe ref will not call this in Championship football.
It'll be the linesman or 4th official.

The ref turned around and looked straight at it - surely it is up to him then to call it.

I think he turned around as 4 or 5 Donegal men were roaring. Why I don't know.
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ONeill

That's a plucky Tyrone side. Mightn't be as laced with talent as previous U20s but hard to put away.

Those last 4 minutes of normal time (2 mins either side of 60) was something else. Donegal knew exactly the distance Tyrone couldn't score from, and Tyrone knew exactly the time left. No one was prepared to take a chance until 40 secs left. I know it would never be allowed to happen, but had Donegal decided to surprise Tyrone, and attacked the line of Tyrone ball carriers as a group, a turnover was 50/50.

I suppose 50/50 isn't good odds.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

J70

Quote from: greatpoint on April 30, 2025, 09:33:13 PMWhat was going on with the ref? Seemed very harsh on Donegal with a few decisions.

Forgot about it this evening until I saw a FB post from a relative who was it. To say they were not happy with the ref would be seriously understating it!

omagh_gael

I was at it on the half way line. Tyrone did have a small break in the 4v3 but Eoin mcelholm was instructed by linesman to get back and he did. The rules changed to give this leeway if I'm correct?

Donegal breeched it by a country mile for the deciding free kick.

The wind was much stronger there than if might have appeared on TV. Tyrone were 100% correct to hold on to the ball as the Donegal anti football philosophy meant that they'd completely clogged up the scoring zone. Would have been sucicidal to risk bringing the ball into contact.

On a separate note, You'd wonder if Donegal people would ever get fed up of the way they play football. f**k it's a hard watch and forces the other team to mirror them. Hardly a ball kicked more than 30m and as soon as they lose the ball it's a sprint back to 12 men inside the arc.

RoundBall

Quote from: omagh_gael on April 30, 2025, 11:35:46 PMI was at it on the half way line. Tyrone did have a small break in the 4v3 but Eoin mcelholm was instructed by linesman to get back and he did. The rules changed to give this leeway if I'm correct?

Donegal breeched it by a country mile for the deciding free kick.

The wind was much stronger there than if might have appeared on TV. Tyrone were 100% correct to hold on to the ball as the Donegal anti football philosophy meant that they'd completely clogged up the scoring zone. Would have been sucicidal to risk bringing the ball into contact.

On a separate note, You'd wonder if Donegal people would ever get fed up of the way they play football. f**k it's a hard watch and forces the other team to mirror them. Hardly a ball kicked more than 30m and as soon as they lose the ball it's a sprint back to 12 men inside the arc.

Spot on, pure and utter muck. It's absolutely putrid. Tyrone learned from the game in Ballybofey a few weeks back where they consistently fell into the spiders web and were hit on the counter. Unfortunately the only way to beat it is to mirror it.
An Ríocht Uí Néill

bennydorano

You could see a Tyrone man scampering back as clear as day on TV, not just crossing the line misdemeanour style, didnt look like McElholm, might have got away with a few.

Wildweasel74

Donegal U20 been like that past few yrs. Done the same with Derry last year.

ONeill

Quote from: bennydorano on April 30, 2025, 11:46:40 PMYou could see a Tyrone man scampering back as clear as day on TV,

This is funny as hell.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

thebigfullforward

Quote from: Truthsayer on April 30, 2025, 09:00:12 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 30, 2025, 08:55:31 PMSaid it at the start of the year and I'll lay money it'll be same at the end of the year. There'll be as many good/shite games under the new rules as the old.
There has been a huge improvement but if teams don't want to play is nothing you can do about it...
That's it like. When it comes to these high pressure situation games where a mistake at the wrong time could completely change the momentum of the game teams are going to try and control the game. Tyrone picked it up in extra time and had the quality and bravery to go for 2 pointers but there'd be plenty of teams that wouldn't be going for them if there was no need to be

thebigfullforward

Quote from: timmyot501 on April 30, 2025, 09:02:17 PMTyrone looked like they didn't want to win that. The no. 5 was a joke standing in the one spot while bouncing and soloing. I was hoping they'd run out of time b4 getting a shot at the end.
How did he do anything wrong though? Keep the ball and make sure you get the last shot off. It happens all the time in senior football now and it happens all the time in basketball. Why would you willingly give the opposition another chance to get up the pitch and score?