All Ireland 2025 championships. Call it.

[Premier Emperor]

The top three in Munster will be Clare and Limerick who will decide the Munster Final. Tipp will be in third place.
The top three in Leinster will be Kilkenny and Dublin who will decide the Leinster Final. Offaly will be in third place.
Kilkenny and Clare to win provincials. Tipp V Clare Semi. Kilkenny V Limerick other Semi. Tipp V KK Final. Tipp to win.

Clare won't make it out of Munster. The big 3 of Tipp, Cork and Limerick will.

It is more certain now that Clare won't even get out of Munster. The worst All Ireland winners since 2013.

[johnnycool]

The top three in Munster will be Clare and Limerick who will decide the Munster Final. Tipp will be in third place.
The top three in Leinster will be Kilkenny and Dublin who will decide the Leinster Final. Offaly will be in third place.
Kilkenny and Clare to win provincials. Tipp V Clare Semi. Kilkenny V Limerick other Semi. Tipp V KK Final. Tipp to win.

Clare won't make it out of Munster. The big 3 of Tipp, Cork and Limerick will.

It is more certain now that Clare won't even get out of Munster. The worst All Ireland winners since 2013.

 

[imtommygunn]

Really wide open now. Tipp and Clare and Tipp Waterford big ones - Tipp can probably finish Clare off there. You would expect Cork and Limerick to come through ok.I couldn't see Clare beating Limerick and would probably say the same for Waterford.

[johnnycool]

Really wide open now. Tipp and Clare and Tipp Waterford big ones - Tipp can probably finish Clare off there. You would expect Cork and Limerick to come through ok.I couldn't see Clare beating Limerick and would probably say the same for Waterford.

We don't really know where Limerick are as yet though. If they dispatch Waterford with ease this weekend in Walsh park then we can say the battle for the third spot is between Waterford, Tipp and Clare and Clare are now seriously handicapped in the head to head with Waterford.

It's tight either way still

[Premier Emperor]

Niall Rigney sees the problem too.

https://x.com/laoishurler/status/1916597063632253113

[Milltown Row2]

Niall Rigney sees the problem too.

https://x.com/laoishurler/status/1916597063632253113

Be manly, not an issue in any of that and if you give a slap then man up and expect to get it back and not bitch about it.. But in the young lads case it wasn't provoked from what I seen, he started and what has happened resulted in Tipp losing the match, they probably would have lost anyways but don't give the ref a 'hard' call to make

[NAG1]

Yeah don't think he gave the officials much option. All the umpires from behind would have seen was him driving the hurl into the Cork lad and him hitting the deck, what else do they tell the ref.

Even the Ref looked disappointed at the end when LC was giving off to him about it, basically shrugged his shoulders and was like what else could he do.

Thought Tipp battled rightly after it, but the game was gone.

Cork still a level above everyone at the moment, but wondering if they can maintain that level for the rest of the games to come.

[Lamps]

Yeah don't think he gave the officials much option. All the umpires from behind would have seen was him driving the hurl into the Cork lad and him hitting the deck, what else do they tell the ref.

Even the Ref looked disappointed at the end when LC was giving off to him about it, basically shrugged his shoulders and was like what else could he do.

Cahill can't be blaming the ref for him failing to keep his players under control.
What sort of loony team talk did Cahill give Tipp to have a teenager go out and launch such an assault?

[NAG1]

Yeah don't think he gave the officials much option. All the umpires from behind would have seen was him driving the hurl into the Cork lad and him hitting the deck, what else do they tell the ref.

Even the Ref looked disappointed at the end when LC was giving off to him about it, basically shrugged his shoulders and was like what else could he do.

Cahill can't be blaming the ref for him failing to keep his players under control.
What sort of loony team talk did Cahill give Tipp to have a teenager go out and launch such an assault?

Not sure he would have went that far, but it definitely did seem like a part of the game plan to get some rucks and messing going at the start of the game.
Maybe trying to upset the Cork rhythm. Backfired.

[johnnycool]

Yeah don't think he gave the officials much option. All the umpires from behind would have seen was him driving the hurl into the Cork lad and him hitting the deck, what else do they tell the ref.

Even the Ref looked disappointed at the end when LC was giving off to him about it, basically shrugged his shoulders and was like what else could he do.

Cahill can't be blaming the ref for him failing to keep his players under control.
What sort of loony team talk did Cahill give Tipp to have a teenager go out and launch such an assault?

Not sure he would have went that far, but it definitely did seem like a part of the game plan to get some rucks and messing going at the start of the game.
Maybe trying to upset the Cork rhythm. Backfired.

It backfired only because the referee singled out one player for what was thought to be a dig to the balls when all around there was all and sundry going on including one Cork player "pushing" his head into a Tipp lad.

If Dalton was punished by a red card rather than McCarthy Tipp could rightly say it worked.

Clare got about Cork in the second half in a similar manner, one Cork lad reacted and got a red, thems the breaks

Hurling was very sanitised for a lot of years, this is kinda a throwback to the 90's, is that a bad thing?

Every team needs a Sylvie Linnane 

[NAG1]

Yeah don't think he gave the officials much option. All the umpires from behind would have seen was him driving the hurl into the Cork lad and him hitting the deck, what else do they tell the ref.

Even the Ref looked disappointed at the end when LC was giving off to him about it, basically shrugged his shoulders and was like what else could he do.

Cahill can't be blaming the ref for him failing to keep his players under control.
What sort of loony team talk did Cahill give Tipp to have a teenager go out and launch such an assault?

Not sure he would have went that far, but it definitely did seem like a part of the game plan to get some rucks and messing going at the start of the game.
Maybe trying to upset the Cork rhythm. Backfired.

It backfired only because the referee singled out one player for what was thought to be a dig to the balls when all around there was all and sundry going on including one Cork player "pushing" his head into a Tipp lad.

If Dalton was punished by a red card rather than McCarthy Tipp could rightly say it worked.

Clare got about Cork in the second half in a similar manner, one Cork lad reacted and got a red, thems the breaks

Hurling was very sanitised for a lot of years, this is kinda a throwback to the 90's, is that a bad thing?

Every team needs a Sylvie Linnane 

Didn't say it was a bad idea JC 

Just that he got caught out in this instance, many another day he would have got a yellow and the game go on.

That is the risk in that type of tactic though. I'd imagine Cork will be expecting this type of treatment for the rest of the year with teams 'testing' them.

[Milltown Row2]

Yeah don't think he gave the officials much option. All the umpires from behind would have seen was him driving the hurl into the Cork lad and him hitting the deck, what else do they tell the ref.

Even the Ref looked disappointed at the end when LC was giving off to him about it, basically shrugged his shoulders and was like what else could he do.

Cahill can't be blaming the ref for him failing to keep his players under control.
What sort of loony team talk did Cahill give Tipp to have a teenager go out and launch such an assault?

Not sure he would have went that far, but it definitely did seem like a part of the game plan to get some rucks and messing going at the start of the game.
Maybe trying to upset the Cork rhythm. Backfired.

It backfired only because the referee singled out one player for what was thought to be a dig to the balls when all around there was all and sundry going on including one Cork player "pushing" his head into a Tipp lad.

If Dalton was punished by a red card rather than McCarthy Tipp could rightly say it worked.

Clare got about Cork in the second half in a similar manner, one Cork lad reacted and got a red, thems the breaks

Hurling was very sanitised for a lot of years, this is kinda a throwback to the 90's, is that a bad thing?

Every team needs a Sylvie Linnane 

I remember saying to the lads one year that I'll initiate a ruckus and I want everyone one to get involved, sorta see where we are, it was a challenge game, and in those days the ref's didn't send ya off in those games, and if they did it didn't count, so me the smallest runt on the team gets it going!

Christ the worst thing ever, I don't think I thought it through as I 'did' it when surrounded by them and our lads where up with the ball I cleared and it was on their sideline ... We, in the end, got the desired effect but I got rescued a bit later than I'd have hoped lol! 

So it can backfire massively, maybe in the case Tipp could lose out

Though you do defo miss those days

[johnnycool]

Yeah don't think he gave the officials much option. All the umpires from behind would have seen was him driving the hurl into the Cork lad and him hitting the deck, what else do they tell the ref.

Even the Ref looked disappointed at the end when LC was giving off to him about it, basically shrugged his shoulders and was like what else could he do.

Cahill can't be blaming the ref for him failing to keep his players under control.
What sort of loony team talk did Cahill give Tipp to have a teenager go out and launch such an assault?

Not sure he would have went that far, but it definitely did seem like a part of the game plan to get some rucks and messing going at the start of the game.
Maybe trying to upset the Cork rhythm. Backfired.

It backfired only because the referee singled out one player for what was thought to be a dig to the balls when all around there was all and sundry going on including one Cork player "pushing" his head into a Tipp lad.

If Dalton was punished by a red card rather than McCarthy Tipp could rightly say it worked.

Clare got about Cork in the second half in a similar manner, one Cork lad reacted and got a red, thems the breaks

Hurling was very sanitised for a lot of years, this is kinda a throwback to the 90's, is that a bad thing?

Every team needs a Sylvie Linnane 

Didn't say it was a bad idea JC 

Just that he got caught out in this instance, many another day he would have got a yellow and the game go on.

That is the risk in that type of tactic though. I'd imagine Cork will be expecting this type of treatment for the rest of the year with teams 'testing' them.

Cork, rightly or wrongly have gotten the reputation of having a soft centre and were criticised heavily for not being cynical enough on the Tony Kelly goal in the AI final, they are responding to that criticism as are Tipp after getting hammered out the gate in the league final, so both wanted to assert their manliness, no harm in that.

It has to be said, there was fúck all wrong with O'Donoghue in the same way there was fúck all wrong with Adam Hogan earlier in the day and that is a blight on hurling.

At least the Tipp lad who took the dunt from Dalton didn't go down like a sack of shíte to his credit even if he'd a good opportunity to get Dalton sent off.

[johnnycool]

Waterford v Limerick this Saturday is the only Tier 1 game in town


Waterford are on a bit of a high after winning on their first outing but Limerick having drawn their first game will be a different beast to Clare who were out of sorts against them.

You always hope that Waterford can push on, but with this game now having a lot of meaning for Limerick they won't allow Stephen Bennet the freedom of the park to punish them and I'd be going for a 5 to 10 point win for Limerick in this one.

[mouview]

Waterford v Limerick this Saturday is the only Tier 1 game in town


Waterford are on a bit of a high after winning on their first outing but Limerick having drawn their first game will be a different beast to Clare who were out of sorts against them.

You always hope that Waterford can push on, but with this game now having a lot of meaning for Limerick they won't allow Stephen Bennet the freedom of the park to punish them and I'd be going for a 5 to 10 point win for Limerick in this one.

I fear so, for Waterford. For a man who's had such documented injuries, 2 hard games inside a week is a big ask for Bennett. Limerick should be a big step up in quality from Clare, there's more of a variety of danger from their forwards at least, and if they've designs of going far this championship then they'll have bigger tests than Saturday evening.